Petition to repeal the Bill of Rights

[sthfl2000]

Wow, i am beside myself reading this post. So much to say, i don't really know where to start as i write this. Hmmm
Ok, here we go!

Lets take college first shall we... One of the biggest scams to date is the college system BY DESIGN! The Government wants kids to go to college BUT for what reason? To actually get educated OR to create and mold them into their systems and beliefs? Let us just ponder that for a few minutes........Can someone without a college education succeed in life? Who really wins from a college education nowadays...the students? Professors? Colleges? Government? Economy?...you can answer that yourself but i firmly believe its not the students in todays world.

How about the Tax Code...scam or designed with intent? Who benefits from the tax code one has to ask themselves...society as a whole? Small business? Large business? You or I as working class? The needy, elderly, kids, homeless, unemployed or otherwise employment challenged? Government? Politicians? One has to understand the tax code to know the answer to this and i believe it was solely designed for one group...do you know the group? There is a reason that Small Businesses reap the most benefits of the modern tax code and also why it has become a little more harder to get one going...the regular Joe will never reap the benefits of the tax code if they are W2 and earning over $28k per year...is that taught in college or high school? You want to use ALL of the benefits of the Tax Code...start a Small Business, get educated and hire a great CPA to work with you! If you don't believe me, read some IRS case studies for yourself in your down time and be enlightened for yourself.

How about Government...who does that really benefit nowadays and how can individuals like you and i change the design without being a politician or by votes or by violence...how can we make it what we want as a society? Deep question isn't it? Here is my thought...how about changing the people in the society one at a time through love, decency, employment or better yet create a small business for or with them, common sense education i.e. street smarts, and educating them on issues that are not taught today in high school or college...how do you think that could change the way Government acts? How about not being afraid to voice opinions BASED on true history instead of todays history? How about forming communities in states that welcome change or reversion back to the original America? How about STARTING at the State levels as was originally designed? So many times we focus on Washington DC...but what about our States and local communities...why not start small and work big? More things to ponder...heh!

Our Youth?!? Where did we go wrong in grooming? Or did we? Why has our country turned into a reward and entitlement society? Who fosters that and why? Parents? Schools? Communities? States? Government? Colleges?...why cant our youth start learning the responsibility of a job and progression through the workplace? Why cant they learn the benefits and lessons of failure or risk vs reward? Why do they need to start out at top wages? Why do they feel that lower wages are beneath them? Why do they feel that working 30hrs a week is enough? Who designed them this way and for what reason? Who is telling them to NOT start a small business or develop a new idea/product or service and complain about the big businesses instead? Ever wondered why the politicians have been focusing on them? Does it make any sense OR is it part of the entire process? Start with your kids and get involved in their activities and i know this is hard in todays social media age, but TALK to your kids here and there....show them what hard work is why you do it and why not everything has an immediate reward or entitlement to it, show them that it is ok to fail so that you can learn and grow..YOU be the college of common sense for your youth...for if you are silent, you deserve what we all get fur sure!

Social Media and Media in general...who creates what we see? WE DO! Who is to blame for sided media? WE ARE! Who gives them the strength to control our thoughts? WE DO! So how can we change it? Hmmm...how about redirection? How about by controlling big business by our commerce which in turn could change the Media via the Dollar? You see, whether you want to believe it or not, we do still control who we are IF we take small and LEGAL actions that effect POSITIVE changes...deep isn't it! Don't like a certain commentator's message...try leaning on their sponsors! Don't agree with a certain Social Media outlet...quit using it! Don't agree with organizations...heres an idea...don't solicit their goods or services! Funny how we the people DO have the power but seem to forget the ways we have to control the power! Government takes power from the weak...not the strong and so do individuals and businesses in general...we can change that though!

This world had become more if a chess game then a society...think about that...a chess game of pawns, kings and queens and now more than ever we have an abundance of players...are you going to allow yourself to be a pawn, your kids, your community...we need a few knights and bishops...are you one of those? Are you willing to zigzag around the board to make changes...or just move on a steady course and do nothing? Choice is ours and the blame us ours too...

Look inside and around for the answers...not Washington DC! Start forming relationships with your community, police, fire, medics and military...thank them for their service and commitment. If you have a bad apple in the department, the best way to rid it out is by standing with the decent good ones...let peer pressure work its course BUT don't alienate the entire team of public servants!

Look, we all have different opinions about certain topics and thats great for sure...thats what makes us the greatest country on earth...the fact that we can talk freely about those opinions...why would we want to rid ourselves of that greatness? We all have the right and opportunity to better our lives, but we don't have a right to be equal financially...you have the freedom to work towards whatever you feel is right for you as far as money. If i choose that for me, $30k a year is great, then i should not begrudge you for making $200k a year...for you were no different then me aside from your desires and hard work! If i want that income, i can have that income in America...just may need to work just a little harder or be willing to take a risk (and sometimes fail but as long as i get back up and try again i have the opportunity to succeed at some time in my own growth and experiences) or learn from the person making that income and try to mirror what they did to accomplish their income...but i should not expect to have their wealth handed to me or passed through society as some form of punishment or entitlement or be mad at them for having more than i do.

Wow, this went longer then i expected...better stop here i think...lol

Change is nothing more than an action to a dissapointment in life!

 

[Maverick]

We all have the right and opportunity to better our lives, but we don't have a right to be equal financially...you have the freedom to work towards whatever you feel is right for you as far as money. If i choose that for me, $30k a year is great, then i should not begrudge you for making $200k a year...for you were no different then me aside from your desires and hard work! If i want that income, i can have that income in America...just may need to work just a little harder or be willing to take a risk (and sometimes fail but as long as i get back up and try again i have the opportunity to succeed at some time in my own growth and experiences) or learn from the person making that income and try to mirror what they did to accomplish their income...but i should not expect to have their wealth handed to me or passed through society as some form of punishment or entitlement or be mad at them for having more than i do.

Would have to succumb to agreement on most of this, save for one or two points. The schools are training our youth to work as cooperate sees fit. Outcome based education, school to work, no child left behind etc etc......is the denial of upward mobility in which you speak. And college is nothing more than a cash cow for it's own bureaucracy, and part of indentured servitude through debt.

What you cite was born of yesteryear and the goal is to wipe out that system of middle class individual thinkers, to be replaced with a total socialistic system. These people are sociopaths, really. They posses no conscience, believe they are the enlightened ones, and have all the remorse of a group of lionesses pulling down a zebra.

You will find the occasional exception, whereby someone in the system will try to make a difference, or stand for his/her constituents in a given case....but the beat goes on.

 

[davekc]

Pretty "decent" jobs? You did not just say that! Coal miners have one of the dirtiest, most dangerous jobs there are, both in terms of imminent hazards [like the miners who died because the corporation cut corners on safety equipment - you know, the family that practically owns W Va?] but also in long term health hazards. And you don't have to work in a coal mine to suffer for it - whole towns have higher rates of respiratory disease, and don't even get started on acid rain, which has other countries mad at us for poisoning their air and water.
Coal mining is the past, and it's bad for people and the environment - we have to do better. If the price of clean air and safe working conditions is higher utility bills, people will deal with it - it beats being poisoned by toxic air or dying in a cave in.
Which is why my Dad left WV to start a family: the coal mines are death, whether fast or slow, same end result.

Walmart and Mcdonalds combined don't represent the majority of the job market. The total US work force is roughly 155 million. Walmart has roughly 2 million employees worldwide and McDonalds is between 1.5 and 2M Sooo.......out of 155 million people, 3 maybe 4M are at those two places. Just not enough to make a difference.

As for the coal industry, when I say "decent", I mean from the pay stand point. Granted it is a dangerous job, but so are alot of professions. The coal industry has changed over the years with clean coal technology but not all of it is done in a mine. In those cases it is strip mining. That side of the industry is heavily regulated as well.

As for corporate greed, sure it exists. Many people at all levels benefit from it whether you want to admit that or not. As for off shore accounts, sure they exist. If you understand global business, you will know there are many reasons for it. Some of it is for tax advantage, no question about it, but there are several other reasons. Some of the reasons are expansion, licensing, employment, import/export, permitting outside of the US, the reasons are many depending on the industry. Keep in mind, they are still paying taxes in most cases in those other countries.

 

[Maverick]

Wow. Agendized politically correct revisionist history at its finest.

While it's true that all men are created equal, that doesn't mean that all mean are entitled to be kept equal for their entire lives. You're either confusing liberal Utopian Socialism with conservative Founding Fatherism, or you are trying to convince people they are one in the same.

Context is important...

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

Being created equal means you have the right to life, liberty and the PURSUIT of happiness. It does not mean you have the right to attain happiness... or wealth.

Also, the Founding Fathers never once said no one should be allowed to take advantage of anyone else because they have a lot more wealth. Most of the Founding Fathers got to where they were because they did exactly that. A great many of them attained their wealth thanks to slavery and taking advantage of the poor, and the Constitution of 1787 aimed to keep it that way by counting slaves a 3/5 of a person for the purposes of district representation. Of all the men widely regarded as being a Founding Father, twice as many owned slaves as those who did not.

Thomas Jefferson, in his Inaugural Address stated, "a wise and frugal government … shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government.” Samuel Adams wrote, "The utopian schemes of leveling [redistribution of wealth], and a community of goods, are as visionary and impracticable as those that vest all property in the Crown. [These ideas] are arbitrary and despotic."

I can cite many more of you like, but these are typical of the sentiment of the Founding Fathers and they in no way imply that "all men area created equal" is supposed to mean Utopian Socialism should rule and that wealth shouldn't be wielded against those who don't possess it.

Turtle!

Very astute an accurate depiction of founding principles, no longer applied. And you perhaps thought we might always disagree?

Not always