Penny in the pond?

[OntarioVanMan]

So DaveKC'a favourite saying..and thats just my penny in the pond equates to what?

People snicker because I can be such a tight wad aka cheap...ever think what that penny means to a carrier?

I can suggest things that will save you a penny and you laugh but when your carrier shorts you a penny...it is the end of the world!

Example: The power of the penny.

Your carrier cheats you out of a penny a mile? So what ya say?

Most of us run about 100,000 miles a year give or take a few..
A penny short is $1,000 a year NOT in YOUR pocket..

Take a big carrier with say 1,000 trucks....

That is a whooping 1 MILLION FREE bucks for the carrier because...you know, whats a penny right?

So next time you chose not to collect your penny that YOU earned and NOT the carrier...Please make a donation to the OVM....I am into pennies!

and that is just MY penny in the pond this morning!

 

[Steady Eddie]

So what about the 10 pennys? Just saying......

 

[jujubeans]

ah you'd be proud of me...I picked a penny up the other day...*l*

So I'm a penny richer and the exercise was good for me...

 

[LDB]

Pennies are powerful. Slow down from 70 to 60 and save 1mpg over 100k miles annually and in a straight truck that's potentially 1/3 million pennies annually in your pocket and in a tractor potentially almost 3/4 million pennies annually.

 

[dieseldiva]

Watch the pennies and the dollars will take care of themselves.

 

[Scuba]

Pennies are powerful. Slow down from 70 to 60 and save 1mpg over 100k miles annually and in a straight truck that's potentially 1/3 million pennies annually in your pocket and in a tractor potentially almost 3/4 million pennies annually.

**** man how big are your pockets???? i would think they would rip out long before you could get that many pennies in them. lol

 

[LDB]

Kevlar man, Kevlar. Or maybe that's the theoretical pocket that's really a bank account.

 

[RLENT]

Your carrier cheats you out of a penny a mile? So what ya say?

If a carrier (or really anyone in business) were smart, they would ensure that they would never allow it to appear that they cheated you out of a penny ..... ever:

Dispatch calls you with a load offer and you enquire as to what it pays. Dispatch says: "It pays 85 cpm."

The load offer comes thru and you run the math on it - and find out it pays $0.83978 per mile ....

Now slightly different scenario: Dispatch calls you with a load offer and you enquire as to what it pays. Dispatch says: "It pays 80 cpm."

The load offer comes thru and you run the math on it - and find out it pays $0.83978 per mile ....

Under the two scenarios above, what would be your opinion of the carrier in the first instance ? How about in the second ?

Which one is going to leave a bad taste in your mouth ?

It's the same pay, just a different presentation.

Creating a good impression and maintaining goodwill isn't necessarily hard to do .... you just have to think a little bit about what you are doing, and how things might seem from the point of view of another.

 

[Turtle]

Under the two scenarios above, what would be your opinion of the carrier in the first instance ?

They're cheating me.

How about in the second ?

They're either incompetent or they're playing games.

Which one is going to leave a bad taste in your mouth ?

Both, actually. One's a thief, the other can't do third grade math, neither are to be trusted.

Say what you mean, mean what you say.
Vary from either at your peril.

 

[RLENT]

That's certainly one possible viewpoint one could have about it - but of course, it isn't the only possible one:

From purely a public relations perspective, it is always far, far better to under-promise and over-deliver, than the reverse.

I would be rather disinclined to find fault with any inaccuracy in the representation, when the person doing so always delivers more than what was promised - perhaps I'm just not all that jaded.

YMMV of course

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Here is one...most of us complain because most of the time the load mileage runs over by 2-10 miles because of the zip codes..and we b!tch and whine about how we are getting dinged....and we should be paid for it...

so when it runs 9 miles shorter...

How many volunteer to give the money back?

 

[LDB]

It would have to run shorter enough times to offset all the prior overages before looking into offering them some of the money back.

 

[nightcreacher]

ah you'd be proud of me...I picked a penny up the other day...*l*

So I'm a penny richer and the exercise was good for me...

put heads up penny found in your right shoe,its good luck,if its tails up,dont bend and get it,you will probably split your pants

 

[OntarioVanMan]

It would have to run shorter enough times to offset all the prior overages before looking into offering them some of the money back.

9 times out of 10 it runs over...so I guess I get to keep it...

Steve...old wives tale?

 

[Turtle]

That's certainly one possible viewpoint one could have about it - but of course, it isn't the only possible one:

Honestly, I didn't consider all possible viewpoints, since that wasn't presented as a premise. I only considered things from which you presented them, as in, "Under the two scenarios above, what would be your opinion of the carrier..."

Now, if you had asked, "Under the two scenarios above, what you do you think all the possible viewpoints and/or opinions of the carrier might be?" Then I might have elaborated with several viewpoints.

A wise man once said, "Say what you mean, mean what you say."

Another one said, "Awacka wacka."

Red means stop, green means go. "It pays 85 cents a mile" means it pays 85 cents a mile. Not a little more, not a little less. If they say it with some qualifier, like "it pays at least 85 cents a mile," or "it pays approximately 85 cents a mile," that's fine, as some variation is to be expected. But if they say "it pays 85 cents a mile," and it doesn't, then, by the very definition of trust, they are not to be trusted.

Of course, if they say, "it pays 85 cents a mile," and it doesn't, but it always pays more, or always pays less, then the de facto meaning of the phrase changes to mean what actually happens. But that can only be determined after such a period of time passes whereby consistency develops trust. If it ever varies, then the consistency, and thus the trust, is gone.


"I would be rather disinclined to find fault with any inaccuracy in the representation, when the person doing so always delivers more than what was promised - perhaps I'm just not all that jaded."

There's a good example of that consistent "always" qualifier I was talking about (and was wholly missing in the original conditions as presented). Always, if it is, in fact, always, becomes something to trust, something that is reliable, something that becomes a de facto accurate representation, something that there is no reason to become jaded over in the first place.


YMMV, that's true, but in direct proportion to the integrity of whoever you are trusting.

 

[RLENT]

And you accuse me of being pedantic ? .... sheesh ....

 

[Turtle]

Well, yeah. One has to be pedantic in order to fully recognize it in others. Mainly I'm just havin' fun with the language.

I can at times be unbelievably pedantic, tho. A few trips through US or Canadian Customs, and you learn to be stoopid pedantic. Answer precisely what was asked, no more, no less, no hidden meaning to decipher, volunteer nothing.

When it comes to language, I am usually very precise in my wording, both written and spoken, I say what I mean. Sooo, it drives me crazy when people, like dispatchers, pay no attention to what I actually said, and instead act on what they think I mean. If I meant something other than what I said, I'dda said it in the first place.

 

[Yesteryear]

That is a whooping 1 MILLION FREE bucks for the carrier because...you know, whats a penny right?

So next time you chose not to collect your penny that YOU earned and NOT the carrier...Please make a donation to the OVM....I am into pennies!

and that is just MY penny in the pond this morning!

Ahhhh, Ya'll can donate that penny to me if ya want cause I like pennies! hee hee hee "Yep that's me, cheap as can be!"

Ya know, on warm summer day, if you listen real close ya can hear the birds singing my song. . . . cheep cheep cheep cheep

 

[Doggie Daddy]

Sooo, it drives me crazy when people, like dispatchers, pay no attention to what I actually said, and instead act on what they think I mean. If I meant something other than what I said, I'dda said it in the first place.

Kinda' like when they ask if ya want cheese on that,...NO if I wanted cheese I would have said cheese....GRRR.

 

[pelicn]

Who moved my cheese?