Pelosi pushing for vote on Cap and Trade on Friday
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greg334
Veteran Expediter
It is really simple, when you get a chance, vote against them, If you can, help the opposition by volunteering and tell them why.
If some people had balls, they would get recalls going for house members, I think all 50 states allow it to take place either directly or through the state.
BUT here is what I am going to do, I am picking out the key players, like Rangel (NY), Markey (ohio), Grayson (Florida) and Hoyer (Maryland) and promise to boycott their state as a tourist. That means that I will do my d*mnest to punish the people who put them in office. Even if I have business there, I will do the least amount of shopping or anything.
If some people had balls, they would get recalls going for house members, I think all 50 states allow it to take place either directly or through the state.
BUT here is what I am going to do, I am picking out the key players, like Rangel (NY), Markey (ohio), Grayson (Florida) and Hoyer (Maryland) and promise to boycott their state as a tourist. That means that I will do my d*mnest to punish the people who put them in office. Even if I have business there, I will do the least amount of shopping or anything.
They are TRYING to put people out of work and under their control. They are winning. IF we don't take this back in 2010 we will no longer be a free country, we will be ruled. It IS our LAST chance. The Gulags are next. 
I wish we could put an end to all transportation deliveries to anywhere in the districts of those who voted for it. Only let deliveries through to the districts of those voting against it. I actually wish they would all get swine flu or something equally beneficial to the nation at large but I guess that would be too extreme to say as it might distress some readers.
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chefdennis
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ed markey is not an ohio rep, he is from mass, but tim ryan is the 17th district rep in ohio ...i have left messages at his office and will be working for his defeat when he is u for re-e;ection...until that time, his district will get none of my money in any fashion at all, and he will or his office will be made aware of it each time i could have spent money there and didn't... his azz is toast as far as i am concerned....
It's amazing how "the RICH" at the TOP of LIBERALISM can DUMB DOWN so many thru the MEDIA, and take over HARD WORKING BUSINESSES and DEMONIZED ALL @ the same time! It's going to be like driving I-294- STOP-PAY-TOLL-GO-STOP-PAY-TOLL for EVERYTHING!! AND the IGNORANT ACORN VOTERS are going to be the HARDEST HIT!! obummer obummer-PELOUSY- there WILL BE A LAST LAUGH!! People DO "remember" reaching in their pockets looking for "MO MONEY"!!
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NO they don't!! I am willing to bet money that these bums get re-elected with even a greater margin. The election fraud is going to be amazing. Wait and see. IF they can't be defeated in 2010 it is over. There might not even be elections after that and if there are they will be Soviet Style shams. All those vets who died, were mamed and wounded wasted that sacrifice. We have become what was fought against. We should be ashamed.
Dreammaker
Seasoned Expediter
So much for the House of Representatives, as one senior member of the Republican party said:
"Tonight, 50 Democrats lost their jobs and this bill is dead in the Senate."
This bill still has to get past the Senate. Start calling your Senators now. There's still a chance to kill this thing before it goes to Obama's desk for signing.
"Tonight, 50 Democrats lost their jobs and this bill is dead in the Senate."
This bill still has to get past the Senate. Start calling your Senators now. There's still a chance to kill this thing before it goes to Obama's desk for signing.
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Dreammaker
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From Stop The ACLU, here's what the nimrods in the House who voted for this bill didn't read before they voted on it:
Posted on June 27, 2009
I made the mistake of going over to Thomas and skimming through the majority of the climate change OMG WE’RE ALL GOING TO DIE IF THIS ISN’T PASSED! THINK OF THE CHILDREN (they didn’t think of the children when they passed Porkulus) MANKIND IS BAD SAVE THE WORLD NOW monstrosity of a legislative bill. Here is the link, though, you may have to search for H.R. 2454, the links change at times.
This thing is so long that I had to go back and restart the text of it, as it timed out 5 times (that happens at Thomas). I can’t say I actually read it, but, sure skimmed quite a bit, though, I do not think the 300 page attachement is included yet in the text of the bill. That’s where the pork probably lies.
I’m going to give you a slightly disjointed data dump, in some cases long passages, in others just things I saw. Since it is long and rambling, click on the inline more tag
SEC. 189. GENERAL PROVISIONS.
(a) Immunity From Impairment, Limitation, or Restriction-
(1) IN GENERAL- All rights and remedies of the Administration (including any rights and remedies of the Administration on, under, or with respect to any mortgage or any obligation secured by a mortgage) shall be immune from impairment, limitation, or restriction by or under–
(A) any law (other than a law enacted by Congress expressly in limitation of this paragraph) that becomes effective after the acquisition by the Administration of the subject or property on, under, or with respect to which the right or remedy arises or exists or would so arise or exist in the absence of the law; or
(B) any administrative or other action that becomes effective after the acquisition.
(2) STATE LAW- The Administrator of the Administration may conduct the business of the Administration without regard to any qualification or law of any State relating to incorporation.
I’m giving you the whole section to understand how this unknown “Administrator” can completely ignored the 10th Amendment.
SEC. 205. TREE PLANTING PROGRAMS.
(a) Findings- The Congress finds that–
(1) the utility sector is the largest single source of greenhouse gas emissions in the United States today, producing approximately one-third of the country’s emissions;
(2) heating and cooling homes accounts for nearly 60 percent of residential electricity usage in the United States;
(3) shade trees planted in strategic locations can reduce residential cooling costs by as much as 30 percent;
(4) shade trees have significant clean-air benefits associated with them;
(5) every 100 healthy large trees removes about 300 pounds of air pollution (including particulate matter and ozone) and about 15 tons of carbon dioxide from the air each year;
(6) tree cover on private property and on newly-developed land has declined since the 1970s, even while emissions from transportation and industry have been rising; and
(7) in over a dozen test cities across the United States, increasing urban tree cover has generated between two and five dollars in savings for every dollar invested in such tree planting.
(b) Definitions- As used in this section:
(1) The term `Secretary’ refers to the Secretary of Energy.
(2) The term `retail power provider’ means any entity authorized under applicable State or Federal law to generate, distribute, or provide retail electricity, natural gas, or fuel oil service.
(3) The term `tree-planting organization’ means any nonprofit or not-for-profit group which exists, in whole or in part, to–
(A) expand urban and residential tree cover;
(B) distribute trees for planting;
(C) increase awareness of the environmental and energy-related benefits of trees;
(D) educate the public about proper tree planting, care, and maintenance strategies; or
(E) carry out any combination of the foregoing activities.
(4) The term `tree-siting guidelines’ means a comprehensive list of science-based measurements outlining the species and minimum distance required between trees planted pursuant to this section, in addition to the minimum required distance to be maintained between such trees and–
(A) building foundations;
(B) air conditioning units;
(C) driveways and walkways;
(D) property fences;
(E) preexisting utility infrastructure;
(F) septic systems;
(G) swimming pools; and
(H) other infrastructure as deemed appropriate.
Very long section that tells us trees ROCK! And they do. And the Congress of the United States of America has its collective minds. Because trees rock, they have now given the Secretary of Energy the power, and mandate, to create tree planting and public education programs, not to mention federal jobs for people to go around and plant them, as well as maintain them. Oh, and jobs for people to go around and make sure, look at (4) in bold, that trees are in certain places. Nanny State, anyone? If only they were as worried about temperature monitoring stations being far enough away for objects that cause their data to be skewed to the high side. Want to plant a tree on your property? The Government will tell you where you may put it. Or you will be fined.
SEC. 213. APPLIANCE EFFICIENCY DETERMINATIONS AND PROCEDURES
WARM AIR FURNACES
TELEVISIONS
(h) Inclusion of Carbon Output on Appliance `Energyguide’ Labels
They’re coming after your TVs, your furnaces, your blenders, you name it. And there is a requirement that CO2 output be part of the labels on appliances. More cost.
SEC. 334. JURISDICTION AND VENUE.
`(a) Jurisdiction- The United States district courts shall have jurisdiction to restrain–
`(1) any violation of section 332; and
`(2) any person from distributing in commerce any covered product which does not comply with an applicable rule under section 324 or 325.
`(b) Authority- Any action referred to in subsection (a) shall be brought by the Commission or by the attorney general of a State in the name of the State, except that–
`(1) any such action to restrain any violation of section 332(a)(3) which relates to requirements prescribed by the Secretary or any violation of section 332(a)(4) which relates to request of the Secretary under section 326(b)(2) shall be brought by the Secretary; and
`(2) any violation of section 332(a)(5) or 332(a)(7) shall be brought by the Secretary or by the attorney general of a State in the name of the State.
Los Nanny Staters can come after you legally, and supersede all State law while doing it. Section 332 is about hydrofluorocarbons. There doesn’t seem to be a section 324 or 325 that I can find.
SEC. 215. WATERSENSE.
(a) In General- There is established within the Environmental Protection Agency a WaterSense program to identify and promote water efficient products, buildings and landscapes, and services in order–
(1) to reduce water use;
(2) to reduce the strain on water, wastewater, and stormwater infrastructure;
(3) to conserve energy used to pump, heat, transport, and treat water; and
(4) to preserve water resources for future generations,
through voluntary labeling of, or other forms of communications about, products, buildings and landscapes, and services that meet the highest water efficiency and performance standards.
(b) Duties- The Administrator shall–
(1) promote WaterSense labeled products, buildings and landscapes, and services in the market place as the preferred technologies and services for–
(A) reducing water use; and
(B) ensuring product and service performance;
(2) work to enhance public awareness of the WaterSense label through public outreach, education, and other means;
(3) establish and maintain performance standards so that products, buildings and landscapes, and services labeled with the WaterSense label perform as well or better than their less efficient counterparts;
(4) publicize the need for proper installation and maintenance of WaterSense products by a licensed, and where certification guidelines exist, WaterSense-certified professional to ensure optimal performance;
They’re coming after your water usage. They’ll bombard you with Nanny State ads about your water usage. They’re coming after your dishwashers and washing machines, your faucets, your toilets, vis a vis “performance standards.” They will also push to make sure that only professionally liscensed people work on everything water. Costs go up.
SEC. 218. CERTIFIED STOVES PROGRAM.
(a) Definitions- In this section:
(1) AGENCY- The term `Agency’ means the Environmental Protection Agency.
(2) WOOD STOVE OR PELLET STOVE- The term `wood stove or pellet stove’ means a wood stove, pellet stove, or fireplace insert that uses wood or pellets for fuel.
They’re coming after your fireplaces.
SEC. 711. DESIGNATION OF GREENHOUSE GASES.
`(a) Greenhouse Gases- For purposes of this title, the following are greenhouse gases:
`(1) Carbon dioxide.
`(2) Methane.
`(3) Nitrous oxide.
`(4) Sulfur hexafluoride.
`(5) Hydrofluorocarbons from a chemical manufacturing process at an industrial stationary source.
`(6) Any perfluorocarbon.
`(7) Nitrogen trifluoride.
`(8) Any other anthropogenic gas designated as a greenhouse gas by the Administrator under this section.
Trips to the dentists will be more expensive if you want Nitrous Oxide, or, maybe dentists will just do away with it, due to the certain coming cost of maintaining the paperwork. If Los Federales allow dentists to even keep it. And notice that last part. the Administrator can designate whatever he wants as a bad gas. Sulfer hexafluoride has many applications, and regulation will drive your costs up. Nitrogen trifluoride is used in flat screen displays. Perfluorocarbon’s have many medical uses, as well as in electrical devices and cosmetics. Cost. Go. Up.
`SEC. 721. EMISSION ALLOWANCES.
That part is simply assumed to be in regards to the cap and trade licenses, but, it does not specifically say it, so, Government could restrict your “emissions.” Disturbing, since it is followed by
Part H sections 783-787 coming after electricity, natural gas, home heating oil and propage, refineries
$$$$$$$$ goes up.
SEC. 861. STATE PROGRAMS.
`Notwithstanding section 116, no State or political subdivision thereof shall implement or enforce a cap and trade program that covers any capped emissions emitted during the years 2012 through 2017. For purposes of this section, the term `cap and trade program’ means a system of greenhouse gas regulation under which a State or political subdivision issues a limited number of tradable instruments in the nature of emission allowances and requires that sources within its jurisdiction surrender such tradeable instruments for each unit of greenhouse gases emitted during a compliance period. For purposes of this section, a `cap-and-trade program’ does not include a target or limit on greenhouse gas emissions adopted by a State or political subdivision that is implemented other than through the issuance and surrender of a limited number of tradable instruments in the nature of emission allowances, nor does it include any other standard, limit, regulation, or program to reduce greenhouse gas emissions that is not implemented through the issuance and surrender of a limited number of tradeable instruments in the nature of emission allowances. For purposes of this section, the term `cap and trade program’ does not include, among other things, fleet-wide motor vehicle emission requirements that allow greater emissions with increased vehicle production, or requirements that fuels, or other products, meet an average pollution emission rate or lifecycle greenhouse gas standard.
Yet another part which supersedes the 10th Amendment.
SEC. 431. ENERGY TAX CREDIT.
Somewhere, they are going to find money to give out tons more tax credits, supposedly to offset the massively higher costs to you, the American consumer, but, only if you do what they want you to do, buy what they want you to buy. Even more control of your lives.
Subtitle D–Exporting Clean Technology
Oh, good, you and I are going to be paying for the rest of the world now, too.
My brain hurts again from going through the material. So, check out
* Fort Hard Knox, who says we should impeach Congress, and makes a ****ed fine case for it.
* Michelle Malkin has the Wanted poster for the 8 weenie Republicans
* RS McCain says we need to blame the NRCC
* Gateway Pundit points out that the largest tax increase in US history passed by 7 votes.
* The Wall Street Journal points out that there is no proof that the offsets will actually work
* Wizbang has many quotes
* Little Green Footballs 2.0 catches Excitable Chucky rooting for cap and tax
More to come late. But, to repeat what I Twittered a few times yesterday, any Congress Critter who voted for this should start to live the life, get rid of any vehicle that gets below 40mpg, and should have to buy and drive those micro-mobiles, if not walk or take a bike to work. Or, take the DC Metro. No drivers for them, no limo’s. Fly coach, or, better yet, take the train or bus, home.
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3 Responses to “Data Dump: What’s In The Cap And Tax Bill?”
1. MarkJ on June 27th, 2009 9:17 am
“No drivers for [Congress Critters], no limo’s. Fly coach, or, better yet, take the train or bus, home.”
Exactly. These fools haven’t yet realized how much angry citizens are going to make their lives into living hells if this abortion of a bill actually passes in the Senate. Many of them may never again be able to appear in public during daylight hours.
Indeed, this is the stuff of which revolutions are made.
2. DaveinPhoenix on June 27th, 2009 12:22 pm
Does any of this really matter ? Everyone knows that this disgrace isn’t about the phony global warming, or CO2. It’s about squeezing the last remaining dollars from business and taxpayers to enlarge a political minority. The minority now has control of our country and the majority basically have no political representation. The state run media have Americans convinced that everything running smoothly. Even my Fox news affiliate here in Phoenix constantly extols the virtues of the Obama administration and Democratic congress. I give up. You can write letters to Congress, the president, state reps, it doesn’t matter. You can attend tea parties. It doesn’t matter. Nothing will change. And in 2010, Americans will go off to the polling booth to vote for their incumbent reps. It doesn’t change and doesn’t matter anymore.
3. jdawg on June 27th, 2009 1:11 pm
I must admit, I am impressed that my congressman, a Democrat, had the good sense to vote against it. I wrote him and called his office and suggested that he push a bill requiring all legislation to be read by all members before voting. As part of this, each member of congress should be required to sign an affadavit affirming that he/she has read the bill in full with all amendments and fully understands the language and impact of the proposed legislation under penalty of perjury, and that no bill be voted on before all members have signed and submitted the affadavit. This business of voting on 1,000 + page bills is flat-out BS, and must be stopped. These people are destroying America and they must be stopped.
Posted on June 27, 2009
I made the mistake of going over to Thomas and skimming through the majority of the climate change OMG WE’RE ALL GOING TO DIE IF THIS ISN’T PASSED! THINK OF THE CHILDREN (they didn’t think of the children when they passed Porkulus) MANKIND IS BAD SAVE THE WORLD NOW monstrosity of a legislative bill. Here is the link, though, you may have to search for H.R. 2454, the links change at times.
This thing is so long that I had to go back and restart the text of it, as it timed out 5 times (that happens at Thomas). I can’t say I actually read it, but, sure skimmed quite a bit, though, I do not think the 300 page attachement is included yet in the text of the bill. That’s where the pork probably lies.
I’m going to give you a slightly disjointed data dump, in some cases long passages, in others just things I saw. Since it is long and rambling, click on the inline more tag
SEC. 189. GENERAL PROVISIONS.
(a) Immunity From Impairment, Limitation, or Restriction-
(1) IN GENERAL- All rights and remedies of the Administration (including any rights and remedies of the Administration on, under, or with respect to any mortgage or any obligation secured by a mortgage) shall be immune from impairment, limitation, or restriction by or under–
(A) any law (other than a law enacted by Congress expressly in limitation of this paragraph) that becomes effective after the acquisition by the Administration of the subject or property on, under, or with respect to which the right or remedy arises or exists or would so arise or exist in the absence of the law; or
(B) any administrative or other action that becomes effective after the acquisition.
(2) STATE LAW- The Administrator of the Administration may conduct the business of the Administration without regard to any qualification or law of any State relating to incorporation.
I’m giving you the whole section to understand how this unknown “Administrator” can completely ignored the 10th Amendment.
SEC. 205. TREE PLANTING PROGRAMS.
(a) Findings- The Congress finds that–
(1) the utility sector is the largest single source of greenhouse gas emissions in the United States today, producing approximately one-third of the country’s emissions;
(2) heating and cooling homes accounts for nearly 60 percent of residential electricity usage in the United States;
(3) shade trees planted in strategic locations can reduce residential cooling costs by as much as 30 percent;
(4) shade trees have significant clean-air benefits associated with them;
(5) every 100 healthy large trees removes about 300 pounds of air pollution (including particulate matter and ozone) and about 15 tons of carbon dioxide from the air each year;
(6) tree cover on private property and on newly-developed land has declined since the 1970s, even while emissions from transportation and industry have been rising; and
(7) in over a dozen test cities across the United States, increasing urban tree cover has generated between two and five dollars in savings for every dollar invested in such tree planting.
(b) Definitions- As used in this section:
(1) The term `Secretary’ refers to the Secretary of Energy.
(2) The term `retail power provider’ means any entity authorized under applicable State or Federal law to generate, distribute, or provide retail electricity, natural gas, or fuel oil service.
(3) The term `tree-planting organization’ means any nonprofit or not-for-profit group which exists, in whole or in part, to–
(A) expand urban and residential tree cover;
(B) distribute trees for planting;
(C) increase awareness of the environmental and energy-related benefits of trees;
(D) educate the public about proper tree planting, care, and maintenance strategies; or
(E) carry out any combination of the foregoing activities.
(4) The term `tree-siting guidelines’ means a comprehensive list of science-based measurements outlining the species and minimum distance required between trees planted pursuant to this section, in addition to the minimum required distance to be maintained between such trees and–
(A) building foundations;
(B) air conditioning units;
(C) driveways and walkways;
(D) property fences;
(E) preexisting utility infrastructure;
(F) septic systems;
(G) swimming pools; and
(H) other infrastructure as deemed appropriate.
Very long section that tells us trees ROCK! And they do. And the Congress of the United States of America has its collective minds. Because trees rock, they have now given the Secretary of Energy the power, and mandate, to create tree planting and public education programs, not to mention federal jobs for people to go around and plant them, as well as maintain them. Oh, and jobs for people to go around and make sure, look at (4) in bold, that trees are in certain places. Nanny State, anyone? If only they were as worried about temperature monitoring stations being far enough away for objects that cause their data to be skewed to the high side. Want to plant a tree on your property? The Government will tell you where you may put it. Or you will be fined.
SEC. 213. APPLIANCE EFFICIENCY DETERMINATIONS AND PROCEDURES
WARM AIR FURNACES
TELEVISIONS
(h) Inclusion of Carbon Output on Appliance `Energyguide’ Labels
They’re coming after your TVs, your furnaces, your blenders, you name it. And there is a requirement that CO2 output be part of the labels on appliances. More cost.
SEC. 334. JURISDICTION AND VENUE.
`(a) Jurisdiction- The United States district courts shall have jurisdiction to restrain–
`(1) any violation of section 332; and
`(2) any person from distributing in commerce any covered product which does not comply with an applicable rule under section 324 or 325.
`(b) Authority- Any action referred to in subsection (a) shall be brought by the Commission or by the attorney general of a State in the name of the State, except that–
`(1) any such action to restrain any violation of section 332(a)(3) which relates to requirements prescribed by the Secretary or any violation of section 332(a)(4) which relates to request of the Secretary under section 326(b)(2) shall be brought by the Secretary; and
`(2) any violation of section 332(a)(5) or 332(a)(7) shall be brought by the Secretary or by the attorney general of a State in the name of the State.
Los Nanny Staters can come after you legally, and supersede all State law while doing it. Section 332 is about hydrofluorocarbons. There doesn’t seem to be a section 324 or 325 that I can find.
SEC. 215. WATERSENSE.
(a) In General- There is established within the Environmental Protection Agency a WaterSense program to identify and promote water efficient products, buildings and landscapes, and services in order–
(1) to reduce water use;
(2) to reduce the strain on water, wastewater, and stormwater infrastructure;
(3) to conserve energy used to pump, heat, transport, and treat water; and
(4) to preserve water resources for future generations,
through voluntary labeling of, or other forms of communications about, products, buildings and landscapes, and services that meet the highest water efficiency and performance standards.
(b) Duties- The Administrator shall–
(1) promote WaterSense labeled products, buildings and landscapes, and services in the market place as the preferred technologies and services for–
(A) reducing water use; and
(B) ensuring product and service performance;
(2) work to enhance public awareness of the WaterSense label through public outreach, education, and other means;
(3) establish and maintain performance standards so that products, buildings and landscapes, and services labeled with the WaterSense label perform as well or better than their less efficient counterparts;
(4) publicize the need for proper installation and maintenance of WaterSense products by a licensed, and where certification guidelines exist, WaterSense-certified professional to ensure optimal performance;
They’re coming after your water usage. They’ll bombard you with Nanny State ads about your water usage. They’re coming after your dishwashers and washing machines, your faucets, your toilets, vis a vis “performance standards.” They will also push to make sure that only professionally liscensed people work on everything water. Costs go up.
SEC. 218. CERTIFIED STOVES PROGRAM.
(a) Definitions- In this section:
(1) AGENCY- The term `Agency’ means the Environmental Protection Agency.
(2) WOOD STOVE OR PELLET STOVE- The term `wood stove or pellet stove’ means a wood stove, pellet stove, or fireplace insert that uses wood or pellets for fuel.
They’re coming after your fireplaces.
SEC. 711. DESIGNATION OF GREENHOUSE GASES.
`(a) Greenhouse Gases- For purposes of this title, the following are greenhouse gases:
`(1) Carbon dioxide.
`(2) Methane.
`(3) Nitrous oxide.
`(4) Sulfur hexafluoride.
`(5) Hydrofluorocarbons from a chemical manufacturing process at an industrial stationary source.
`(6) Any perfluorocarbon.
`(7) Nitrogen trifluoride.
`(8) Any other anthropogenic gas designated as a greenhouse gas by the Administrator under this section.
Trips to the dentists will be more expensive if you want Nitrous Oxide, or, maybe dentists will just do away with it, due to the certain coming cost of maintaining the paperwork. If Los Federales allow dentists to even keep it. And notice that last part. the Administrator can designate whatever he wants as a bad gas. Sulfer hexafluoride has many applications, and regulation will drive your costs up. Nitrogen trifluoride is used in flat screen displays. Perfluorocarbon’s have many medical uses, as well as in electrical devices and cosmetics. Cost. Go. Up.
`SEC. 721. EMISSION ALLOWANCES.
That part is simply assumed to be in regards to the cap and trade licenses, but, it does not specifically say it, so, Government could restrict your “emissions.” Disturbing, since it is followed by
Part H sections 783-787 coming after electricity, natural gas, home heating oil and propage, refineries
$$$$$$$$ goes up.
SEC. 861. STATE PROGRAMS.
`Notwithstanding section 116, no State or political subdivision thereof shall implement or enforce a cap and trade program that covers any capped emissions emitted during the years 2012 through 2017. For purposes of this section, the term `cap and trade program’ means a system of greenhouse gas regulation under which a State or political subdivision issues a limited number of tradable instruments in the nature of emission allowances and requires that sources within its jurisdiction surrender such tradeable instruments for each unit of greenhouse gases emitted during a compliance period. For purposes of this section, a `cap-and-trade program’ does not include a target or limit on greenhouse gas emissions adopted by a State or political subdivision that is implemented other than through the issuance and surrender of a limited number of tradable instruments in the nature of emission allowances, nor does it include any other standard, limit, regulation, or program to reduce greenhouse gas emissions that is not implemented through the issuance and surrender of a limited number of tradeable instruments in the nature of emission allowances. For purposes of this section, the term `cap and trade program’ does not include, among other things, fleet-wide motor vehicle emission requirements that allow greater emissions with increased vehicle production, or requirements that fuels, or other products, meet an average pollution emission rate or lifecycle greenhouse gas standard.
Yet another part which supersedes the 10th Amendment.
SEC. 431. ENERGY TAX CREDIT.
Somewhere, they are going to find money to give out tons more tax credits, supposedly to offset the massively higher costs to you, the American consumer, but, only if you do what they want you to do, buy what they want you to buy. Even more control of your lives.
Subtitle D–Exporting Clean Technology
Oh, good, you and I are going to be paying for the rest of the world now, too.
My brain hurts again from going through the material. So, check out
* Fort Hard Knox, who says we should impeach Congress, and makes a ****ed fine case for it.
* Michelle Malkin has the Wanted poster for the 8 weenie Republicans
* RS McCain says we need to blame the NRCC
* Gateway Pundit points out that the largest tax increase in US history passed by 7 votes.
* The Wall Street Journal points out that there is no proof that the offsets will actually work
* Wizbang has many quotes
* Little Green Footballs 2.0 catches Excitable Chucky rooting for cap and tax
More to come late. But, to repeat what I Twittered a few times yesterday, any Congress Critter who voted for this should start to live the life, get rid of any vehicle that gets below 40mpg, and should have to buy and drive those micro-mobiles, if not walk or take a bike to work. Or, take the DC Metro. No drivers for them, no limo’s. Fly coach, or, better yet, take the train or bus, home.
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3 Responses to “Data Dump: What’s In The Cap And Tax Bill?”
1. MarkJ on June 27th, 2009 9:17 am
“No drivers for [Congress Critters], no limo’s. Fly coach, or, better yet, take the train or bus, home.”
Exactly. These fools haven’t yet realized how much angry citizens are going to make their lives into living hells if this abortion of a bill actually passes in the Senate. Many of them may never again be able to appear in public during daylight hours.
Indeed, this is the stuff of which revolutions are made.
2. DaveinPhoenix on June 27th, 2009 12:22 pm
Does any of this really matter ? Everyone knows that this disgrace isn’t about the phony global warming, or CO2. It’s about squeezing the last remaining dollars from business and taxpayers to enlarge a political minority. The minority now has control of our country and the majority basically have no political representation. The state run media have Americans convinced that everything running smoothly. Even my Fox news affiliate here in Phoenix constantly extols the virtues of the Obama administration and Democratic congress. I give up. You can write letters to Congress, the president, state reps, it doesn’t matter. You can attend tea parties. It doesn’t matter. Nothing will change. And in 2010, Americans will go off to the polling booth to vote for their incumbent reps. It doesn’t change and doesn’t matter anymore.
3. jdawg on June 27th, 2009 1:11 pm
I must admit, I am impressed that my congressman, a Democrat, had the good sense to vote against it. I wrote him and called his office and suggested that he push a bill requiring all legislation to be read by all members before voting. As part of this, each member of congress should be required to sign an affadavit affirming that he/she has read the bill in full with all amendments and fully understands the language and impact of the proposed legislation under penalty of perjury, and that no bill be voted on before all members have signed and submitted the affadavit. This business of voting on 1,000 + page bills is flat-out BS, and must be stopped. These people are destroying America and they must be stopped.
Dreammaker
Seasoned Expediter
What a way to run a government. You would think that with all the hoopla about Cap and Trade that there would actually be a bill, i.e., a document that purported to define what the House of Representatives would be voting on. You would be wrong in Ms. Pelosi's world. How do they get away with this?
To wit:
At The Examiner, David Freddoso adds a coda to the bizarre story of the cap-and-trade energy tax that passed the House yesterday. The bill that the House voted on doesn't, strictly speaking, exist:
Texas Republican Reps. Joe Barton and Louie Gohmert have just asked the chair whether there exists a complete, updated copy of the Waxman-Markey carbon-cap bill.
"If a bill for which there is no copy were to actually pass this body," Barton asked, "could the bill without a copy be sent to the Senate for its consideration?"
Through a series of parliamentary inquiries, the Republicans learned that the 300-plus page managers' amendment, added to the bill last night in the House Rules Committee, has not even been been integrated with the official copy of the 1,090-page bill at the House Clerk's desk, let alone in any other location. The two documents are side-by-side at the desk as the clerk reads through the instructions in the 300 page document for altering the 1,090 page document.
But they cannot be simply combined, because the amendment contains 300 pages of items like this: "Page 15, beginning line 8, strike paragraph (11)..." How many members of Congress do you suppose have gone through it all to see how it changes the bill?
I can answer that question: none. There hasn't been time to do so. The manner in which the Democrats have run the House since taking control in 2007 has been disgraceful.
To wit:
At The Examiner, David Freddoso adds a coda to the bizarre story of the cap-and-trade energy tax that passed the House yesterday. The bill that the House voted on doesn't, strictly speaking, exist:
Texas Republican Reps. Joe Barton and Louie Gohmert have just asked the chair whether there exists a complete, updated copy of the Waxman-Markey carbon-cap bill.
"If a bill for which there is no copy were to actually pass this body," Barton asked, "could the bill without a copy be sent to the Senate for its consideration?"
Through a series of parliamentary inquiries, the Republicans learned that the 300-plus page managers' amendment, added to the bill last night in the House Rules Committee, has not even been been integrated with the official copy of the 1,090-page bill at the House Clerk's desk, let alone in any other location. The two documents are side-by-side at the desk as the clerk reads through the instructions in the 300 page document for altering the 1,090 page document.
But they cannot be simply combined, because the amendment contains 300 pages of items like this: "Page 15, beginning line 8, strike paragraph (11)..." How many members of Congress do you suppose have gone through it all to see how it changes the bill?
I can answer that question: none. There hasn't been time to do so. The manner in which the Democrats have run the House since taking control in 2007 has been disgraceful.