Pay problems
- Thread starter rmdiesel
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You wre employed by him , not Panther . He shouldn't have started you working before you filled out necessary paperwork . If you still have the unfilled out copies , write a leter to the FMCSA but don't mail it yet . Send the truck owner a copy of the letter and tell him if you get all he owes you in a week you won't file a complaint .
He should have gotten "some of" the paperwork you did for PII,
What I would do?
Post your whole story with the Truck Owners Name Included,
and put it on this board for all to see.
There's alot of O/O's on these boards, and alot of drivers who run for O/O's of different co.'s from all over on EO Boards.
Let it be known who the bad apples are, maybe they'll shape up... or better yet, maybe it'll scare them off into a different venture.
If we the drivers don't police the bad apples, who will?
How many Drivers have to keep getting screwed out of paychecks before the law reacts?
The sad Truth, the Law does not do much in regards to protect independant contractors like drivers who run for Owners, when it comes to getting payed.
I think there should be a 3 strike rule with owners and co.'s, if the owner fails to pay the driver after 3 attempts made by the driver, the co.'s should tell 'em, "get lost, your no good to drivers, your no good for us". That won't happen though, 'cause Co.'s want the trucks on their rosters for customers to see. They want 300 trucks, even if only 200 are only making money, the customer sees the 300 trucks available, not the 200 working trucks.
So long as the story is true, and PII can say "yes, that driver did that run" then it's all good.
PII, to protect themselves, is really only going to say "yes, that driver ran that run and that run on this date and that date".
Look at the big picture, PII is only going to get involved in what they need to get involved into.
If this owner you speak of has done this to too many drivers and it's found out, then PII will say to that owner "get lost". I've heard and seen it done, more than once.
Bottom Line, and we all can not stress it enough...
You drive for an O/O, get a signed contract & get a copy of it.
I liked DaveKC's remark about getting a photograph of driver and owner next to rig together.
I'd love to get back into expediting, but not only do I want the right rig, but also a respectible owner who values not just the rig, but also their drivers.
That really burns my potatoe! Steams my Clams it does! hearing about yet another driver getting the shaft. Sorry To hear that Driver. Another thing that happens all too often is drivers getting shorted out of bonus money and sign-on money.
Thats my 2 cents, BigBus'
What I would do?
Post your whole story with the Truck Owners Name Included,
and put it on this board for all to see.
There's alot of O/O's on these boards, and alot of drivers who run for O/O's of different co.'s from all over on EO Boards.
Let it be known who the bad apples are, maybe they'll shape up... or better yet, maybe it'll scare them off into a different venture.
If we the drivers don't police the bad apples, who will?
How many Drivers have to keep getting screwed out of paychecks before the law reacts?
The sad Truth, the Law does not do much in regards to protect independant contractors like drivers who run for Owners, when it comes to getting payed.
I think there should be a 3 strike rule with owners and co.'s, if the owner fails to pay the driver after 3 attempts made by the driver, the co.'s should tell 'em, "get lost, your no good to drivers, your no good for us". That won't happen though, 'cause Co.'s want the trucks on their rosters for customers to see. They want 300 trucks, even if only 200 are only making money, the customer sees the 300 trucks available, not the 200 working trucks.
So long as the story is true, and PII can say "yes, that driver did that run" then it's all good.
PII, to protect themselves, is really only going to say "yes, that driver ran that run and that run on this date and that date".
Look at the big picture, PII is only going to get involved in what they need to get involved into.
If this owner you speak of has done this to too many drivers and it's found out, then PII will say to that owner "get lost". I've heard and seen it done, more than once.
Bottom Line, and we all can not stress it enough...
You drive for an O/O, get a signed contract & get a copy of it.
I liked DaveKC's remark about getting a photograph of driver and owner next to rig together.
I'd love to get back into expediting, but not only do I want the right rig, but also a respectible owner who values not just the rig, but also their drivers.
That really burns my potatoe! Steams my Clams it does! hearing about yet another driver getting the shaft. Sorry To hear that Driver. Another thing that happens all too often is drivers getting shorted out of bonus money and sign-on money.
Thats my 2 cents, BigBus'
I will try that, thanks for the idea.
Yea, I have no complaints at all concerning Panther, they kept me busy it's too bad the truck wasn't mine, I did pretty good with it, mileage wise, and was 100% across the dipatch boards, so I always got good runs, most times I always had another good run waiting for me before I finished the one I was on.
Yea, I have no complaints at all concerning Panther, they kept me busy it's too bad the truck wasn't mine, I did pretty good with it, mileage wise, and was 100% across the dipatch boards, so I always got good runs, most times I always had another good run waiting for me before I finished the one I was on.
I agree,
I will post whole story, because there is a female driver out of Springfield IL, who drove for the same owner, and went to orientation at Panther the same time I did. He accussed her of stealing money, put her out of the truck, at a Petro in Atlanta, and she ended up having her brother come and take her home. She only got 2 paychecks by Comdata will call, he still owes her for 3 or 4 wks pay.
I keep in touch with her, to find out how she is doing, and to talk over how we can either get our money, or put a hurtin on his business.
But I will post the whole story soon, including names, if that is not breaking any rules.
I will post whole story, because there is a female driver out of Springfield IL, who drove for the same owner, and went to orientation at Panther the same time I did. He accussed her of stealing money, put her out of the truck, at a Petro in Atlanta, and she ended up having her brother come and take her home. She only got 2 paychecks by Comdata will call, he still owes her for 3 or 4 wks pay.
I keep in touch with her, to find out how she is doing, and to talk over how we can either get our money, or put a hurtin on his business.
But I will post the whole story soon, including names, if that is not breaking any rules.
There are many owners out there that are greedy S>---- you all know what I mean, If you report them to the IRS, which is what one of my cleints did last year,
She Called the IRS and the IRS inturn sent her a filled out Federal Form 4852 Subitute W-2, A copy was sent to the owner, and she recieved a copy, which was filled out for the amount of income she was suppose to recieve since he did not fill out a 1099 Misc. in January FOR the taxable year.
The problem is that the owners get away with murder on this, they are only Fined WOULD YOU BELIEVE $ 50.00 ONLY BY THE IRS, FOR EACH COMPLAINT. I guess they do not care.
Here is what you are suppose to do, if you DO NOT RECIEVE A 1099-MISC WHICH MUST BE POSTMARKED BY JANUARY 31, 2006 FOR TAX YEAR 2005, ESTIMATE WHAT YOU SHOULD OF RECEIVED ON THAT 1099 AND REPORT IT AS INCOME PUTTING HIS NAME ON A 1099-MISC FORM AND MAILING IT ATTACHED TO YOUR TAX RETURN. WITH HIS SSN# OR FEDERAL EMPLOYER IDENTIFICATION NUMBER ON THE FORM (IF YOU HAVE IT)OR PUT IN THE PAYERS id # AS 99-9999999 IN THE AREA WHERE REQUIRED. must be 9 numbers
what will happen is this when the IRS recieves your SCH C and the 1099 attached it will check with the central control office to see if it matches. if they do not have one the owner will then be notified or call not the SID, BUT THE Criminal Investagations division at
1-800-829-0433 and see what they say. and state that you have not received a 1099 MISc or even paid by the person you were employed by.
Try that.
HERE IS WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO RECEIVE WHEN YOU SIGN ON WITH A OWNER CONTRACTED TO A CARRIER.
1. TAKE PICTURES OF EVERY ASPECT OF THE VEHICLE YOU ARE GOING TO BE DRIVING. INSIDE AND OUT. AND MAKE SURE HE SEE'S YOU DOING IT. THIS WAY HE CANNOT COME BACK ON YOU AS TO DAMAGE.
2. MAKE SURE YOU RECEIVE A WRITTEN CONTRACT THAT BOTH YOU AND THE OWNER SIGN WITH THE STIPULATIONS WRITTEN OUT OF WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT. TOLLS, FUEL, REPAIRS, TIRES, INSURANCE (OCCUPATIONAL), TRIP PAK AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU CAN THINK OF FOR
3. MAKE SURE IT ALSO STATES WHAT YOU WILL REECEIVE PERTAINING TO
DETENTION TIME, FUEL SURCHARGES, LOADING OR UNLOADING WHERE THE B.0.L
STATE THAT DRIVER UNLOAD OR LOAD. AND HOW MUCH YOU SHOULD RECEIVE FOR THAT LOAD,IF ANY IF YOUR THE ONE PAYING FOR FUEL DETENTION TIME OR LOADING IT YOU SHOULD GET THE FULL AMOUNTS
4.MAKE SURE IT STATES THAT YOU WILL RECEIVE A COPY OF THE SETTLEMENT SHEET FROM THE PANTHER, CONWAY OR WHO EVER IS PAYING THE OWNER SO YOU ACTUALLY SEE IF HE IS GIVING YOU YOUR CORRECT PERCENTAGE, OR MILEAGE PAID OR IS HE STEALING FROM YOU.
IF HE SAYS THAT NO SETTLEMENT SHEETS OR HE SAYS THAT YOU WILL RECEIVE A COPY OF A SETTLEMENT, IF ITS A HAND WRITTEN COPY OR VERBAL SETTLEMENT HE IS SCREWING YOU. GET AWAY FROM THE OWNER, REPORT HIM TO THE CARRIER, AND FIND ANOTHER OWNER ASAP. BUT LEAVE YOUR OPTIONS WITH THE CARRIER HE IS SIGNED ON WITH SO YOU CAN DRIVER FOR ANYONE WHO IS ON WITH THEM.
fRANK
Frank's Tax & Business Service
226 S. Cherokee St.
Kings Mountain, NC 28086
704-739-4039
Fax 704-739-3934
cell 704-300-5143
She Called the IRS and the IRS inturn sent her a filled out Federal Form 4852 Subitute W-2, A copy was sent to the owner, and she recieved a copy, which was filled out for the amount of income she was suppose to recieve since he did not fill out a 1099 Misc. in January FOR the taxable year.
The problem is that the owners get away with murder on this, they are only Fined WOULD YOU BELIEVE $ 50.00 ONLY BY THE IRS, FOR EACH COMPLAINT. I guess they do not care.
Here is what you are suppose to do, if you DO NOT RECIEVE A 1099-MISC WHICH MUST BE POSTMARKED BY JANUARY 31, 2006 FOR TAX YEAR 2005, ESTIMATE WHAT YOU SHOULD OF RECEIVED ON THAT 1099 AND REPORT IT AS INCOME PUTTING HIS NAME ON A 1099-MISC FORM AND MAILING IT ATTACHED TO YOUR TAX RETURN. WITH HIS SSN# OR FEDERAL EMPLOYER IDENTIFICATION NUMBER ON THE FORM (IF YOU HAVE IT)OR PUT IN THE PAYERS id # AS 99-9999999 IN THE AREA WHERE REQUIRED. must be 9 numbers
what will happen is this when the IRS recieves your SCH C and the 1099 attached it will check with the central control office to see if it matches. if they do not have one the owner will then be notified or call not the SID, BUT THE Criminal Investagations division at
1-800-829-0433 and see what they say. and state that you have not received a 1099 MISc or even paid by the person you were employed by.
Try that.
HERE IS WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO RECEIVE WHEN YOU SIGN ON WITH A OWNER CONTRACTED TO A CARRIER.
1. TAKE PICTURES OF EVERY ASPECT OF THE VEHICLE YOU ARE GOING TO BE DRIVING. INSIDE AND OUT. AND MAKE SURE HE SEE'S YOU DOING IT. THIS WAY HE CANNOT COME BACK ON YOU AS TO DAMAGE.
2. MAKE SURE YOU RECEIVE A WRITTEN CONTRACT THAT BOTH YOU AND THE OWNER SIGN WITH THE STIPULATIONS WRITTEN OUT OF WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT. TOLLS, FUEL, REPAIRS, TIRES, INSURANCE (OCCUPATIONAL), TRIP PAK AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU CAN THINK OF FOR
3. MAKE SURE IT ALSO STATES WHAT YOU WILL REECEIVE PERTAINING TO
DETENTION TIME, FUEL SURCHARGES, LOADING OR UNLOADING WHERE THE B.0.L
STATE THAT DRIVER UNLOAD OR LOAD. AND HOW MUCH YOU SHOULD RECEIVE FOR THAT LOAD,IF ANY IF YOUR THE ONE PAYING FOR FUEL DETENTION TIME OR LOADING IT YOU SHOULD GET THE FULL AMOUNTS
4.MAKE SURE IT STATES THAT YOU WILL RECEIVE A COPY OF THE SETTLEMENT SHEET FROM THE PANTHER, CONWAY OR WHO EVER IS PAYING THE OWNER SO YOU ACTUALLY SEE IF HE IS GIVING YOU YOUR CORRECT PERCENTAGE, OR MILEAGE PAID OR IS HE STEALING FROM YOU.
IF HE SAYS THAT NO SETTLEMENT SHEETS OR HE SAYS THAT YOU WILL RECEIVE A COPY OF A SETTLEMENT, IF ITS A HAND WRITTEN COPY OR VERBAL SETTLEMENT HE IS SCREWING YOU. GET AWAY FROM THE OWNER, REPORT HIM TO THE CARRIER, AND FIND ANOTHER OWNER ASAP. BUT LEAVE YOUR OPTIONS WITH THE CARRIER HE IS SIGNED ON WITH SO YOU CAN DRIVER FOR ANYONE WHO IS ON WITH THEM.
fRANK
Frank's Tax & Business Service
226 S. Cherokee St.
Kings Mountain, NC 28086
704-739-4039
Fax 704-739-3934
cell 704-300-5143
I don't think we are allowed to actually to put the owners name in here but, if anyone wants the owner name that I drove for with Panther2 feel free to email me your request be more than happy to oblige you. I mention the name to every expediter I see, so if they ever switch companies that they know to stay away from them.
I totally agree with the taking of pictures before ever stepping in the vehicle with the owner watching, another reason why learning is a never ending process.
The IRS also needs to get their heads out of the sand, and start helping out all independant contractors, a $50.00 fine what a joke!
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I totally agree with the taking of pictures before ever stepping in the vehicle with the owner watching, another reason why learning is a never ending process.
The IRS also needs to get their heads out of the sand, and start helping out all independant contractors, a $50.00 fine what a joke!
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Why can't we put owners names in here???
I mean, if they're doing things illegal, and they're doing it to more than one person, then isn't that just letting everybody know who's who in the expediting biz? or is that slander? and why would it be slander? slander is a persons good name, Example: if Bubba is doing bad, to many people, then Bubba is not a good name... right? I can't recall if I put the owner's name I drove for in here about 2 years ago when I had problems with an owner.
I mean, if they're doing things illegal, and they're doing it to more than one person, then isn't that just letting everybody know who's who in the expediting biz? or is that slander? and why would it be slander? slander is a persons good name, Example: if Bubba is doing bad, to many people, then Bubba is not a good name... right? I can't recall if I put the owner's name I drove for in here about 2 years ago when I had problems with an owner.
We don't prohibit naming names, I don't think it is wise, there are ALWAYS two sides to every story.
I hear every week from fleet owners who have their trucks destroyed, abandoned or vandalized by their drivers. They want to come to this forum and post their names to so everyone can see their names and be warned.
That basically makes that person the judge, jury and executioner. Not a very fair way to treat the driver who no doubt has THEIR version of the story.
So, let me throw this on the table - we will be adding a rating system to the classified area - just like eBay. So if you are a good, reputable driver or fleet owner, you will be ranked well. If not, you will have a negative score. This will encourage all parties to be above board in their business dealings - if not, they will be rated out of existence.
Hope this helps.
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I hear every week from fleet owners who have their trucks destroyed, abandoned or vandalized by their drivers. They want to come to this forum and post their names to so everyone can see their names and be warned.
That basically makes that person the judge, jury and executioner. Not a very fair way to treat the driver who no doubt has THEIR version of the story.
So, let me throw this on the table - we will be adding a rating system to the classified area - just like eBay. So if you are a good, reputable driver or fleet owner, you will be ranked well. If not, you will have a negative score. This will encourage all parties to be above board in their business dealings - if not, they will be rated out of existence.
Hope this helps.
Lawrence,
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I have to agree with Lawrence. Many of the poor owners give many a bad name. They recently had a bad owner at Panther that got too greedy. With several drivers, it appeared as if many of the owners were this way. Come to later find out that these drivers were all talking about the same owner.
This rating system will eliminate that.
Davekc
This rating system will eliminate that.
Davekc
I did put the owners name in a post, the intent was not to slander
but to warn.
Hard working drivers should never have to go home after 5wks of work
and no money to feed his children.
I do believe that both good owners, and good drivers have to be careful, there are bad apples on both sides of the fence.
but to warn.
Hard working drivers should never have to go home after 5wks of work
and no money to feed his children.
I do believe that both good owners, and good drivers have to be careful, there are bad apples on both sides of the fence.
BigBus,
We will be rolling some new features after Expedite Expo, thanks for the positive feedback - no pun intended! LOL!
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We will be rolling some new features after Expedite Expo, thanks for the positive feedback - no pun intended! LOL!
Lawrence,
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candykane29
Expert Expediter
Hate to say it but there are alot of things you can do about it but none of them will get you ##### but more bills. Point of fact as a contractor (driver not owner) you have very few options. The owners hold the cards. Contract or not you have to prove it. Settlement sheets are easily altered and as my husband and I found out when we got a 1099 from one of his last owners they can say they paid you whatever they want. The process for appealing that is forever long. My husband got his 1099 and they claimed almost 7000 dollars more than they actually paid him. Our accountant told us we could appeal it but with court system the way it is we were probably looking at at least a couple of years or more before it would be resolved so we chucked it up to a learning experience.
Use this as a learning experience and if you don't get paid in full the first time your due on the date your due, clean out the truck and return it.
Consider yourself lucky this time at least he didn't claim false lies about you and you can move on with a clean record!!
*Those who can, drive, those who can't just own and whine.
Use this as a learning experience and if you don't get paid in full the first time your due on the date your due, clean out the truck and return it.
Consider yourself lucky this time at least he didn't claim false lies about you and you can move on with a clean record!!
*Those who can, drive, those who can't just own and whine.
That is what is so sad about these types of situations, is that the
owners so many ways to hide behind their greed. It seems most laws are set up to protect employers, not employees, unless you make $5hr or less.
I'm sure there are some very good owners out there, but how do you find them?
owners so many ways to hide behind their greed. It seems most laws are set up to protect employers, not employees, unless you make $5hr or less.
I'm sure there are some very good owners out there, but how do you find them?
Lady Expediter
Expert Expediter
>That is what is so sad about these types of situations, is
>that the
>owners so many ways to hide behind their greed. It seems
>most laws are set up to protect employers, not employees,
>unless you make $5hr or less.
>
>I'm sure there are some very good owners out there, but how
>do you find them?
That's what I keep saying lately about team drivers, I know that there are good ones out there....but where?
I have had 3 teams in one of my trucks:
#1 team always wanted truck in the shop at least once a month.They ran good, but apparently like to attempt to spend my money as much as possible also. I am big on truck care/maintence, as it takes care of all of us, drivers and owners, but....
#2 team ran great one month, didn't the next,that was their MO, and even stopped sending in the companies paperwork for the last 12 trips....until they wanted to float around the company to other owners looking for drivers...then the company as soon as they recieved the BOL let them on with another owner...and I was not notified, and I never completely received the paperwork I needed from these drivers.
#3 turned down to many loads, kept bad percentage rates, to much time off, and had a incident within 3 weeks of starting with me and ended up costing me around $7000.00
UGH! I know this can be a win-win experince for both drivers and owners, etc....but both must be patient, look into each other well...
I know there are two sides to every situation...sometimes more. But I wonder what these 3 team drivers would say or rate me the owner as?
These drivers were always paid in full at every pu, reimbursed for tolls, etc. and had a fuel card for fuel which I the owner paid for. And I also drive, and I know what it is like to be OTR, and I vALUE drivers/owners and reconize and appreciate what is required.
My drivers I have always given a type written contract, I think it is best to be clear on both sides of what we are agreeing to be doing together as a working unit...
I do believe it would be good some how to have a list/information on drivers and owners but how accurate it could be I do not know.
Also to somehow market together for these job openings and drivers looking for positions, so we could ALL recieve quality & quanity of selective applicants.
EXAMPLE: if I place a classified ad (anywhere, newspaper/online,etc.) also add in ad: www.expeditersonline.com as we owners live all over USA and cost for 1 more line of advertising would not be so much this could be a win-win situation for everyone. Of course we would need to run this by experditersonline for their Okey dokey
Then we may increase our pool of proper driver/owner matches!
Okey, hope this helps.
God Bless You All,
Happy 4th,
Kelly
>that the
>owners so many ways to hide behind their greed. It seems
>most laws are set up to protect employers, not employees,
>unless you make $5hr or less.
>
>I'm sure there are some very good owners out there, but how
>do you find them?
That's what I keep saying lately about team drivers, I know that there are good ones out there....but where?
I have had 3 teams in one of my trucks:
#1 team always wanted truck in the shop at least once a month.They ran good, but apparently like to attempt to spend my money as much as possible also. I am big on truck care/maintence, as it takes care of all of us, drivers and owners, but....
#2 team ran great one month, didn't the next,that was their MO, and even stopped sending in the companies paperwork for the last 12 trips....until they wanted to float around the company to other owners looking for drivers...then the company as soon as they recieved the BOL let them on with another owner...and I was not notified, and I never completely received the paperwork I needed from these drivers.
#3 turned down to many loads, kept bad percentage rates, to much time off, and had a incident within 3 weeks of starting with me and ended up costing me around $7000.00
UGH! I know this can be a win-win experince for both drivers and owners, etc....but both must be patient, look into each other well...
I know there are two sides to every situation...sometimes more. But I wonder what these 3 team drivers would say or rate me the owner as?
These drivers were always paid in full at every pu, reimbursed for tolls, etc. and had a fuel card for fuel which I the owner paid for. And I also drive, and I know what it is like to be OTR, and I vALUE drivers/owners and reconize and appreciate what is required.
My drivers I have always given a type written contract, I think it is best to be clear on both sides of what we are agreeing to be doing together as a working unit...
I do believe it would be good some how to have a list/information on drivers and owners but how accurate it could be I do not know.
Also to somehow market together for these job openings and drivers looking for positions, so we could ALL recieve quality & quanity of selective applicants.
EXAMPLE: if I place a classified ad (anywhere, newspaper/online,etc.) also add in ad: www.expeditersonline.com as we owners live all over USA and cost for 1 more line of advertising would not be so much this could be a win-win situation for everyone. Of course we would need to run this by experditersonline for their Okey dokey
Then we may increase our pool of proper driver/owner matches!
Okey, hope this helps.
God Bless You All,
Happy 4th,
Kelly
Lady Expediter wrote
team always wanted truck in the shop at least once a month.
That may be a little miscommunication or a model that requires alot of repairs. You don't mention year or model of truck.
On our trucks, they go in to the dealer every 5 to six weeks. Sometimes they do a little, and sometimes alot.
And that is not counting oil changes or any tire issues.
I prefer it because they will usually catch any problem before it turns big. Team drops it off when home and pick it up when they leave.
Your #2 and 3 could happen to any owner. Just a cost to bear.
I think you are in a difficult position because you are on the road.
I wouldn't recommend driving and owning at the same time.
It is too hard to have a pulse on everything.
You can't watch everything all of the time when on the road.
It might be ok with one other truck, but when you start to add several, it could get out of hand quickly.
My hats off to you for doing it though.
Davekc
owner
20 years
team always wanted truck in the shop at least once a month.
That may be a little miscommunication or a model that requires alot of repairs. You don't mention year or model of truck.
On our trucks, they go in to the dealer every 5 to six weeks. Sometimes they do a little, and sometimes alot.
And that is not counting oil changes or any tire issues.
I prefer it because they will usually catch any problem before it turns big. Team drops it off when home and pick it up when they leave.
Your #2 and 3 could happen to any owner. Just a cost to bear.
I think you are in a difficult position because you are on the road.
I wouldn't recommend driving and owning at the same time.
It is too hard to have a pulse on everything.
You can't watch everything all of the time when on the road.
It might be ok with one other truck, but when you start to add several, it could get out of hand quickly.
My hats off to you for doing it though.
Davekc
owner
20 years
Lady Expediter
Expert Expediter
>Lady Expediter wrote
>team always wanted truck in the shop at least once a month.
>
>That may be a little miscommunication or a model that
>requires alot of repairs. You don't mention year or model of
>truck.
>
>On our trucks, they go in to the dealer every 5 to six
>weeks. Sometimes they do a little, and sometimes alot.
>And that is not counting oil changes or any tire issues.
>I prefer it because they will usually catch any problem
>before it turns big. Team drops it off when home and pick it
>up when they leave.
>
>Your #2 and 3 could happen to any owner. Just a cost to
>bear.
>
>I think you are in a difficult position because you are on
>the road.
>I wouldn't recommend driving and owning at the same time.
>It is too hard to have a pulse on everything.
>You can't watch everything all of the time when on the road.
>It might be ok with one other truck, but when you start to
>add several, it could get out of hand quickly.
>My hats off to you for doing it though.
>
>Davekc
>owner
>20 years
Greetings,
Thanks for your comments.
First if I recall I do not think I stated that I drove fulltime at this time or at all anymore just said I am a driver and know what it is like out there. And like you stated I agree with you again I would not want to run a fleet of more than 2 or 3 if I was fulltime on the road. But I am not fulltime on the road anymore - I fill in where needed once in awhile. And it has not been hard for me with 3 trucks and out driving (thank God) due to mobile phones and on-line business website etc...and of course money in the bank as well as credit in case of ANY need/emergencies. Clear communications with drivers/company and myself helped out ALOT! as well as my drivers always recieved their pay immediately at every pick up, and had a ready to go fuel card with them. Helps out with not so much babysitting and everyone is happy and free to do business.
And I am alright with repairs and preventive,the trucks need to be kept in excellent shape and safe! If trucks are down Then it is not good for any of us - drivers or owner. Also I have long term drivers/teams and that is part of what they love I do not hold off or complain about trucks being takening care of. This just happened to be this one teams MO with every owner. Yes, I am with you on preferring that if it is possible (team dropping of truck during their home time off, which should mostly be possible if one keeps up with preventive) so one same place/shop knows you and your vehicle etc...and does not cut into anyones working time.And this was a team that if they had a brand new truck would do the samething as I stayed current with their next owner etc...
And yes, I agree with you #2 and #3 can happen to any owner/s. And yes, I understand part of life/business etc....I am not complaining only stating FACTS and asking, hoping, looking...for some good matches at this time currently. Don't ask, don't get, or something like that As well as learn and grow. Share and express...
Thank you,
Kelly
>team always wanted truck in the shop at least once a month.
>
>That may be a little miscommunication or a model that
>requires alot of repairs. You don't mention year or model of
>truck.
>
>On our trucks, they go in to the dealer every 5 to six
>weeks. Sometimes they do a little, and sometimes alot.
>And that is not counting oil changes or any tire issues.
>I prefer it because they will usually catch any problem
>before it turns big. Team drops it off when home and pick it
>up when they leave.
>
>Your #2 and 3 could happen to any owner. Just a cost to
>bear.
>
>I think you are in a difficult position because you are on
>the road.
>I wouldn't recommend driving and owning at the same time.
>It is too hard to have a pulse on everything.
>You can't watch everything all of the time when on the road.
>It might be ok with one other truck, but when you start to
>add several, it could get out of hand quickly.
>My hats off to you for doing it though.
>
>Davekc
>owner
>20 years
Greetings,
Thanks for your comments.
First if I recall I do not think I stated that I drove fulltime at this time or at all anymore just said I am a driver and know what it is like out there. And like you stated I agree with you again I would not want to run a fleet of more than 2 or 3 if I was fulltime on the road. But I am not fulltime on the road anymore - I fill in where needed once in awhile. And it has not been hard for me with 3 trucks and out driving (thank God) due to mobile phones and on-line business website etc...and of course money in the bank as well as credit in case of ANY need/emergencies. Clear communications with drivers/company and myself helped out ALOT! as well as my drivers always recieved their pay immediately at every pick up, and had a ready to go fuel card with them. Helps out with not so much babysitting and everyone is happy and free to do business.
And I am alright with repairs and preventive,the trucks need to be kept in excellent shape and safe! If trucks are down Then it is not good for any of us - drivers or owner. Also I have long term drivers/teams and that is part of what they love I do not hold off or complain about trucks being takening care of. This just happened to be this one teams MO with every owner. Yes, I am with you on preferring that if it is possible (team dropping of truck during their home time off, which should mostly be possible if one keeps up with preventive) so one same place/shop knows you and your vehicle etc...and does not cut into anyones working time.And this was a team that if they had a brand new truck would do the samething as I stayed current with their next owner etc...
And yes, I agree with you #2 and #3 can happen to any owner/s. And yes, I understand part of life/business etc....I am not complaining only stating FACTS and asking, hoping, looking...for some good matches at this time currently. Don't ask, don't get, or something like that
As well as learn and grow. Share and express...Thank you,
Kelly