Panther is cleaning House???

CharlesD

Expert Expediter
WOW! I have said this before and I am not afraid to say it again. BAN THE VAN! This goes for das Sprinter too! The van/Sprinter has completely ruined expediting. Stealing loads from T/T just isn't fair and must stop. Making a delivery and deadheading to a busy board is inexcusable and unfair. Those pesky van drivers should be made to wait in the middle of Kansas for at least 3 days before being allowed to move to another board. And they shouldn't be allowed to decline any loads. Why should a van with limited choices be allowed to turn down a loser load?

Most Sprinters and many vans use diesel fuel. No wonder fuel prices are so high! These jerks are burning precious fuel and driving up the cost.

BAN THE VAN BAN THE VAN BAN THE VAN BAN THE VAN

das Sprinter ietch chrome dinette ich bin der dreck unter deinen walzen ich bin dein geheimer schmutz und verlorenes metallgeld ich bin deine ritze ich bin deine ritze und schl...


Then what exactly is the problem?

I know you're being humorous and all, but it's only funny because there is some truth in it. I hear people all the time complaining that another vehicle class is stealing their loads, but in my mind it's only a problem when a larger vehicle is taking something that would fit the smaller one. The other side of the coin is that if you're in a straight truck and you get a call offering you a two skid load and you're in an area where you're not likely to get many good offers, you'd be crazy to turn it down. Plus, lighter loads are more economical to run. Yeah, it ticks me off when I see a straight truck hauling a load that I could fit in my vehicle because I can't return the favor and grab a 10000 lb load that he could have taken, but that's the nature of the business.

What does tick me off is when someone with a larger vehicle will combine two or three van expedites going the same direction and run them for LTL rates. Sure, if you bid that van load at .60 a mile and combine with a couple more loads at .70 or .80 a mile, you can get an ok rate for your truck, but those loads should not be moving for those rates. Fine if you want to combine loads; I've done the same thing myself. But move each individual load at a full rate, the same rate a van would move it for. I'm convinced that's what is keeping the rates for van freight so ridiculously low anyway. There are times I've put two cargo van expedites on my Sprinter but I don't do it often, mostly because there often isn't enough time to do each load within the time frame expected. The times I have done it, however, I've gotten $1.00 a mile or more for each load. I don't lowball one of them just to get it because the two combined will give me enough money. I consider that each load needs to be priced where I could move it by itself. If I could remove any terms from the trucking industry vocabulary it would be partial load and backhaul.
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
OK, Leo, I'll accept your numbers (note to newbies: NEVER argue with Leo's numbers, lol) but the point is valid: the carrier doesn't lose money on vans that are sitting still - only the o/o or driver does.
What's keeping van rates down is the oversupply, because it is too easy to buy a van, and sign it on. Until that changes (and it isn't in the best interests of the carriers, or the customers to change it), rates will not go up. Costs will, as they have all along, but compensation doesn't follow - it's a tough world, and not a fair one.
 

kangar0085

Seasoned Expediter
Sounds like someone is listening to Andrew Wilkow. ;) I'm a Mark Levin guy myself.


I'm glad you picked up on that Tennesseehawk. I love Wilkow but I agree...Levin is the best. I listen to Hannity as well but to me he isn't that entertaining. As far as the left goes I like Colmes at night and I'll put on Thom Heartmann at noon. Ed Shultz is just goofy but Heartmann does make some excellent points although I disagree with him most of the time.
 

panthervanman

Seasoned Expediter
what a bunch of cry babies.You r paid for miles u run. if u want the load take it but if u don't want it turn it down we are a non force dispatch. I signed on with panther for that reason,if I want to be told I have to take a load I'll get a job. I dont get mad at t/t for taking a load that will fit on my s/t. Drivers who think panther has their favorits could be right,maybe its because when they call them they dont cry all the time.you knew what u where getting when you signed up for this. A lot of this is just being in the right place at the right time. If u dont make money on the load dont take it,do u think panther would take a load that they didnt make money on,not a chance. if u want to complain about something it should be the crappy pay for a dry run. No matter how far u drive to get it the pay is only 99dollars thats bull....
 
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