Panther holding back O/O's
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I actually just ran a cross a deal I just couldnt pass up.Also I think things will adventualy turn around with the freight situation and there actually may be a need a for more vans in the future.I was also considering running my own authority on that van
Putting your co-driver in the other van would be an excellent idea. Also, have you considered finding a carrier that doesn't put arbitrary restrictions on the number of miles a van can run? There really isn't much of a need for teams in vans, IMHO. Most team runs that are dispatched at 45 to 50mph could be safely run by a solo in a van, as there is some rest time built in. Sure, you couldn't do them continuously, but no one is anyway.
I think IF we were with Panther, business is what it is....We'd be in Michigan runnung mini's 24 hours a day and using the 1st outs up the gaazoo....just like the everready bunny....
I think IF we were with Panther, business is what it is....We'd be in Michigan runnung mini's 24 hours a day and using the 1st outs up the gaazoo....just like the everready bunny....
Yeah if only it worked that way, I would have nothing to complain about.Unfortunatly All you get is one a day,mini or whatever else happens to pop up."keep everybody happy and moving"
That sux....Big time...no woder I am not with the Cat...
Too many fluid rules/policies....dispatch has way too much swing to do anything they want pay any price they want and split any trip...there nothing for the contractor...but disclaimers out the kazoo....
Let's try to stick to some semblance of facts and not exaggerations. Dispatch has minimal leeway outside the published rules they are given in their training. Dispatch supervisers have discretion to a degree but certainly not unlimited "pay any price they want and split any trip". They have to account for their decisions to folks even higher up the food chain as well.
You are absolutely right. My friend who works for Bolt just got a load from Laredo all the way to Columbus. He had to pick up at 8 in the evening on saturday night and be in Columbus at 6 in the morning on Monday. The load was approximately 1,535 miles and he had just enough time to take a 6 hour break! As it turns out he delivered the load almost 2 hours early. Now, if he was working for E-1 or panther, they would have never given him "all of the miles!"
I don't see what the proboem is with these companies anymore; Cargo Vans are not Straight Trucks or Tractor Trailers; why then should they be regulated? I have a good friend who works for the California Department of Transportation and he has told me many times that the scale houses can barely keep up with the increasing number of Tractor Trailers on the road and that they as a whole do not have any time or interest in regulating Cargo Vans. I personally "on my way home to california this time" drove 2,200 miles in 47 hours; that includes five fuel stops and two 6 hour breaks. I drove 70 miles an hour on cruise the entire way and I did not spend any time dicking around at truck stops.
Now, when I did my recap; I had averaged over 50 miles per hour (even with the 12 hours of combined sleep time)! So, anyone who says a solo driver can't do 2,200 miles in 48 hours is just insane in the membrane. Now, I will admit that after I got to the house, I was very tired and needed to get 8 hours of sleep. But the miles were not unreasonable and I pushed myself according to what I know "fron 6 years of combined driving experience" that my body can handle.
It's not my fault that "old retired coots" get into the expediting business and think that they can pull two back to back 900 mile loads "I have done this a couple of times" and then get into an accident that results in a fatality. Then big brother has to slam the hammer down and regulate all of the "good drivers" who can actually handle driving because that is what we do and we push ourselves to the limits that we know we can handle! It's not fair. If they want Cargo Vans to log, just scrap the B-units and move everyone up into to a straight truck!
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I was referring more to the van segment...Load maybe subject to swao and FSC is estimated...seems too many ways out for the "other" side...cause once you accept a trip we have no way out at all...the deck is stacked in the houses favour.
I had a recruiter at E-1 tell me that he can make a phonecall today and have 20 Sprinters in orientation by the following Monday. Yeah...I'd say the deck is stacked in the houses favor!
Ok..lets say most carriers the deck is stacked......
But if I agree to a load at 700 miles and at .46 FSC...I don't expect to later find I have to swap it out and FSC turns out to be .24 cents
It would be interesting to know how 1 phone call would bring 20 units. It just seems like it would take a few, at least.
E-1 is NOT taking on any vans at the moment....been about 3 weeks since they stopped....
I still have my hall pass from Larry Pickles to sign back on with E-1. I guess i'm special like that!
Refer back to fluid rules and policies....*LOL*
Thats what they told me.I could put another van on because I was a fleet owner.the freeze only applies to new van hires,or so they say.I saw 5 new van O/Os lease on the last time I was there.
Yah I know its to replace the battered and bruised lol
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Well of all the things said some things do stand out that have been in place for years.
first dispatchers do remember certain o/o out there for different things. But if you do shorties they will remember and try to give you more (usually). Some do remember you doing a favour but in the big companies this does not seem to be the case.
With some companies yes they do watch incomes and try to keep certain trucks in a certain leel and do sort of try to level the field (not really equal though). I have seen this actually in play at one of the hot shot type companies.
Do dispatchers have favorites??? You bet they do. In the real big outfits maybe not so much but in the small to medium they definitely do.
Being a real good and efficient driver can be both a blessing and a curse depending on the company and the dispatcher. I have found myself being punished with crap loads because I could do them faster than someone else. Well all that good work just earned me more lousy loads and none of the gravy loads as dispatch did not want to work with the noobs and the boobs.
Anyone who says that there is no way to figure out what a broker makes or otherwise with the software in use today is fooling themselves. I have seen several different programs used in the courier business and I can definitely say that they can tell what you are making per day, per week and for the period and ytd. With many you can quickly view a snynopsis of the fleet or selected members of the fleet so choosing a poor van out the many for a run can be done easily. Comptuers are a great tool but unfortunately they do allow for more playing around than the old days when the dispatcher had to use his head.
When it's busy the playing field definitely does level out a lot as everyone is too busy to play any games.
Oh well such is the game.
Rob
first dispatchers do remember certain o/o out there for different things. But if you do shorties they will remember and try to give you more (usually). Some do remember you doing a favour but in the big companies this does not seem to be the case.
With some companies yes they do watch incomes and try to keep certain trucks in a certain leel and do sort of try to level the field (not really equal though). I have seen this actually in play at one of the hot shot type companies.
Do dispatchers have favorites??? You bet they do. In the real big outfits maybe not so much but in the small to medium they definitely do.
Being a real good and efficient driver can be both a blessing and a curse depending on the company and the dispatcher. I have found myself being punished with crap loads because I could do them faster than someone else. Well all that good work just earned me more lousy loads and none of the gravy loads as dispatch did not want to work with the noobs and the boobs.
Anyone who says that there is no way to figure out what a broker makes or otherwise with the software in use today is fooling themselves. I have seen several different programs used in the courier business and I can definitely say that they can tell what you are making per day, per week and for the period and ytd. With many you can quickly view a snynopsis of the fleet or selected members of the fleet so choosing a poor van out the many for a run can be done easily. Comptuers are a great tool but unfortunately they do allow for more playing around than the old days when the dispatcher had to use his head.
When it's busy the playing field definitely does level out a lot as everyone is too busy to play any games.
Oh well such is the game.
Rob
Well if thats how they want to do it no problem just put me on a schedule so I wont waste my fuel and time.Think green