Palin's Paul Revere

greg334

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On topic: way back when Palin first became news, I said I wanted so much to admire her, but couldn't. She is a self serving media :censoredsign:, interested primarily in the financial well being of herself and her family. Now that she's succeeded in that goal, I wish she'd treat the rest of us as she did the citizens of the state she governed, and quit. :(

But Cheri, tell me who isn't?

I can't take her seriously because of a number of reasons, mainly her reality show and the idea that she needed to tell us about her life and how she enjoys it. Not what I would call someone who has leadership qualities.
 

BillChaffey

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Ms Palin doesn't know Paul Revere. Our esteemed president If I recall correctly thinks we have 53 States. Who's better equipped to run the Country?.:rolleyes:
 

layoutshooter

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Yet again, you failed to answer the question, which had zero to do with the membership of Obama here. The question was why you must disparage Obama and all politicians, ad nauseum, in nearly every reply, whether it has any relevance to the topic, or adds any new thoughts on the subject. The answer is in my sigline.



I can post whatever I chose, without cussing about King Putz the 1st. I do so because I want to.

I cannot, however, attack other members

It happens, no one is perfect. Not many make a living at it.

Many times it is not that I don't answer, it's just that many don't like the answer I give or it is not the one that they want.

If Witness can earn a living lambasting "conservatives" then I can lambaste LiBeRaLs as much as I like.

Fair and balanced. :p

I mean if a member can ask if I am hitting the bottle then I guess it is just as ok to ask a member if they are smoking crack.

Fair is fair.
 

layoutshooter

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Interesting side bar.



"How Sarah Palin Got it Right About Paul Revere 'Warning the British'"


Mark Whittington – Sun Jun 5, 3:38 pm ET
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COMMENTARY | Sarah Palin stepped out of Paul Revere's home in Boston and appeared to get her history wrong. The Internet then exploded in ridicule and astonishment at the ditz from Alaska once again uttering nonsense.

It started when Palin told a questioner, according to the Daily Caller, that Revere had had "warned the British" and not the colonials. The firestorm was instantaneous and viral. From staid organs of the mainstream media like the Los Angeles Times to the snarky left side of the Internet such as the Daily Kos, almost everyone arose in high dudgeon.

Except, albeit somewhat clumsily expressed, Palin was correct.
Professor William A. Jacobson over at Legal Insurrection notes the memoirs of Revere himself, as pointed out by the Conservatives4Palin site. In it, Revere recounts an incident during the famous Midnight Ride in which he was accosted by a British military patrol and was interrogated about what his business was on the road. Revere indicated to his British captors that he had warned the countryside of the approach of British troops up the Lexington-Concord road, matching pretty much what Palin said.

"He demanded what time I left Boston? I told him; and added that their troops had catched aground in passing the River, and that there would be five hundred Americans there in a short time, for I had alarmed the Country all the way up. He imediately rode towards those who stoppd us, when all five of them came down upon a full gallop; one of them, whom I afterwards found to be Major Mitchel, of the 5th Regiment, Clapped his pistol to my head, called me by name, & told me he was going to ask me some questions, & if I did not give him true answers, he would blow my brains out. He then asked me similar questions to those above."

So how was it that Palin got it right and just about everyone else got it wrong about Paul Revere and his famous ride? Most peoples' knowledge about Revere begins and ends with the famous Longfellow poem, which somewhat fudged the actual history of the ride that night in 1775. Palin either has actually cracked open a book or, just as likely, was paying attention to the lecture visitors get when they go to Paul Revere's home, unlike her critics.

And so it goes.

How Sarah Palin Got it Right About Paul Revere 'Warning the British' - Yahoo! News
 

dieseldiva

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Someone made this point earlier in the thread :rolleyes:...it was response #5 I believe. I guess those here that don't like Palin and believe that it's ok to constantly try to make her look stoooopid should do their homework before commenting. Now today, we have HISTORIANS speaking up on her behalf.....and others.
 

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I just find it funny. They go after Palin like she is a rabid dog. Right now, she is a nobody. She has no office, no real power.

They say that she has no business in the Oval Office due to her lack of experience. Obama had even less experience than she did when he took office and it shows. Why did they not go after HIS lack of experience in the same way?

I am in no way saying that I want to see her as president. I don't. I don't believe that she has what is needed. Just as I don't want to see Obama reelected. He just plain sucks.

It would be quite refreshing to see someone in that office with a functioning brain.

As it stands now, any skeleton from a dead dog could do a better job than King Putz the 1st is doing.
 

Tennesseahawk

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It always seems to be when a liberal is stooopid, oh well. "Obama was just tired when he said there were 60 states (57 plus Alaska and Hawaii, along with the one he was currently in)."

"Biden... well, he was just being Biden... silly old Biden... gotta crack up at the guy, he's such a card."

"Al Gore? He was taken out of context about the internet thingy."

And the fact that he didn't know that a bust of George W. was of George W? "Well I never saw it, so you must be lying."

We all know Bush was "dumb", don't we? That goes on and on like his daddy's "read my lips" quote... but never Clinton's fake tears. Then there's potatoe. Now it's Palin's constant blonde moment that seems to have committed suicide for her chances, cause people will not let it go. Personally, I'd rather have her in the WH than have Biden one bullet or heart attack away. Biden is one scary dude... a politician who speaks his warped mind.
 

layoutshooter

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It always seems to be when a liberal is stooopid, oh well. "Obama was just tired when he said there were 60 states (57 plus Alaska and Hawaii, along with the one he was currently in)."

"Biden... well, he was just being Biden... silly old Biden... gotta crack up at the guy, he's such a card."

"Al Gore? He was taken out of context about the internet thingy."

And the fact that he didn't know that a bust of George W. was of George W? "Well I never saw it, so you must be lying."

We all know Bush was "dumb", don't we? That goes on and on like his daddy's "read my lips" quote... but never Clinton's fake tears. Then there's potatoe. Now it's Palin's constant blonde moment that seems to have committed suicide for her chances, cause people will not let it go. Personally, I'd rather have her in the WH than have Biden one bullet or heart attack away. Biden is one scary dude... a politician who speaks his warped mind.

Biden was picked as a "life insurance policy" for Barry.

You are right though, you can go back a very long way into history before you find someone who sat in that office that had a brain.
 

Pilgrim

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It always seems to be when a liberal is stooopid, oh well. "Obama was just tired when he said there were 60 states (57 plus Alaska and Hawaii, along with the one he was currently in)."

"Biden... well, he was just being Biden... silly old Biden... gotta crack up at the guy, he's such a card."

"Al Gore? He was taken out of context about the internet thingy."

And the fact that he didn't know that a bust of George W. was of George W? "Well I never saw it, so you must be lying."

We all know Bush was "dumb", don't we? That goes on and on like his daddy's "read my lips" quote... but never Clinton's fake tears. Then there's potatoe. Now it's Palin's constant blonde moment that seems to have committed suicide for her chances, cause people will not let it go. Personally, I'd rather have her in the WH than have Biden one bullet or heart attack away. Biden is one scary dude... a politician who speaks his warped mind.

It's all part of the template created by the liberal democrats and their willing accomplices in the press. Conservatives are "haters" anytime they disagree with liberal dogma; they're also "stupid", "backward", "racist" - the list of pejoratives is used repeatedly against political candidates and those who support them. Obama himself plays this game - remember the condescending comment about the "bitter clingers" to their "guns and religion"? The video of gaffes by conservatives is also replayed on TV and repeated in print more often than the screw-ups by liberals - how many times have we seen the "57 states" or "bitter clingers" comments compared to the verbal stumbles of Republicans? Granted, it's just Sarah Palin's style to come across as a ditz; she's cursed with being physically attractive and having a speaking style that reminds all of us of someone we knew in high school. Couple those attributes with an aggressive press corps that's always in a "gotcha" mode with her and through editing only shows the "gotcha" moments, and one wonders if perhaps the real Palin is not exactly like the one we see on the news.

On the other hand, there are clips of Obama out there - and one campaign stop in Bristol, TN comes to mind - where he's without his teleprompters, gets off script and sounds like a babbling idiot. There's plenty of those recorded moments out there on YouTube, but one has to dig to find them. But that's just the reality we have with the MSM, and conservative candidates had better learn how to deal with it.
 

dieseldiva

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It's all part of the template created by the liberal democrats and their willing accomplices in the press. Conservatives are "haters" anytime they disagree with liberal dogma; they're also "stupid", "backward", "racist" - the list of pejoratives is used repeatedly against political candidates and those who support them. Obama himself plays this game - remember the condescending comment about the "bitter clingers" to their "guns and religion"? The video of gaffes by conservatives is also replayed on TV and repeated in print more often than the screw-ups by liberals - how many times have we seen the "57 states" or "bitter clingers" comments compared to the verbal stumbles of Republicans? Granted, it's just Sarah Palin's style to come across as a ditz; she's cursed with being physically attractive and having a speaking style that reminds all of us of someone we knew in high school. Couple those attributes with an aggressive press corps that's always in a "gotcha" mode with her and through editing only shows the "gotcha" moments, and one wonders if perhaps the real Palin is not exactly like the one we see on the news.

On the other hand, there are clips of Obama out there - and one campaign stop in Bristol, TN comes to mind - where he's without his teleprompters, gets off script and sounds like a babbling idiot. There's plenty of those recorded moments out there on YouTube, but one has to dig to find them. But that's just the reality we have with the MSM, and conservative candidates had better learn how to deal with it.

All good stuff there, Pilgrim and as for the part highlighted in red, I really think Sarah is just onery enough to "deal" with them by saying these things on purpose so that when the facts finally come out, they've got egg on there collective faces. :D

I don't know if Palin's intentions are to get in the race this time, maybe she's happy just running interference for the rest of the field by side-tracking the press. Ya never know.
 

chefdennis

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She isn't running...but she is sure playing the "left" and the media like a good violin....oh and making MONEY doin it...:D:rolleyes:
 

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She isn't running...but she is sure playing the "left" and the media like a good violin....oh and making MONEY doin it...:D:rolleyes:

I think you are correct and not only making a TON of money but she is exposing the left for the fools they are. I mean, really, how stupid do you have to be to insure her gravy train income? LOL!!
 

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I really think Sarah is just onery enough to "deal" with them by saying these things on purpose so that when the facts finally come out, they've got egg on there collective faces.
Not even close to (a) egg on their faces or (b) the facts coming out, and especially (c) ornery. Paul Revere absolutely did not perform his midnight ride to warn the British, firing shots or ringing bells to do so, as was stated by Palin. He was captured after his ride and then he spilled the beans. The facts are being twisted and spun to make Palin look less stupid, because, like I said, the Palin faithful will be able to find something that substantiates her saying Revere wore a yellow polka dot bikini on his ride. But the bottom line is, yes, she is just too stooooooopid to have been correct.

Even Palin in a later interview got it wrong again:

“You know what? I didn’t mess up about Paul Revere. “Part of his ride was to warn the British that we’re already there. That, hey, you’re not going to succeed. You’re not going to take American arms… Here is what Paul Revere did. He warned the Americans that the British were coming… and they were going to try take our arms and we got to make sure that we were protecting ourselves and shoring up all of ammunitions and our firearms so that they couldn’t take it,” Palin said. "But remember that the British had already been there, many soldiers for seven years in that area. And part of Paul Revere’s ride — and it wasn’t just one ride — he was a courier, he was a messenger. Part of his ride was to warn the British that we’re already there… You are not going to beat our own well-armed persons, individual, private militia that we have. He did warn the British.”

Yes, he did warn the British, but that was not his goal, nor the goal of the ride. The ride was supposed to have been a secret kept from the British, and he got caught and fessed up. And he fessed up without firing a single shot or ringing a single bell.

Palin fans have been having an absolute field day trying to edit the Paul Revere Wiki page to coincide with her version of history. They're even trying to use the fact that she said it on a news broadcast as being a valid referenced source of its validity and truth of history. Yet no one has been able to find a valid source of what Palin said before she said it. It's all revisionist, twisted to make Palin look smarter than the average Kodiak. Palin implied, and stated outright, that Paul Revere's ride was to warn the British and the Americans, and that's simply not true. She said he warned the British, which is true - he did, but she said he warned them by ringing those bells and firing those shots, which is not true - he didn't. Palin fans are trying to squeeze every last drop out of contextual semantics to make her look smart, but no matter what they do, she's still stoopid.

All you have to do is ask yourself, do you really want Emily Litella in the Oval Office with her finger on The Button?
 

layoutshooter

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Not even close to (a) egg on their faces or (b) the facts coming out, and especially (c) ornery. Paul Revere absolutely did not perform his midnight ride to warn the British, firing shots or ringing bells to do so, as was stated by Palin. He was captured after his ride and then he spilled the beans. The facts are being twisted and spun to make Palin look less stupid, because, like I said, the Palin faithful will be able to find something that substantiates her saying Revere wore a yellow polka dot bikini on his ride. But the bottom line is, yes, she is just too stooooooopid to have been correct.

Even Palin in a later interview got it wrong again:

“You know what? I didn’t mess up about Paul Revere. “Part of his ride was to warn the British that we’re already there. That, hey, you’re not going to succeed. You’re not going to take American arms… Here is what Paul Revere did. He warned the Americans that the British were coming… and they were going to try take our arms and we got to make sure that we were protecting ourselves and shoring up all of ammunitions and our firearms so that they couldn’t take it,” Palin said. "But remember that the British had already been there, many soldiers for seven years in that area. And part of Paul Revere’s ride — and it wasn’t just one ride — he was a courier, he was a messenger. Part of his ride was to warn the British that we’re already there… You are not going to beat our own well-armed persons, individual, private militia that we have. He did warn the British.”

Yes, he did warn the British, but that was not his goal, nor the goal of the ride. The ride was supposed to have been a secret kept from the British, and he got caught and fessed up. And he fessed up without firing a single shot or ringing a single bell.

Palin fans have been having an absolute field day trying to edit the Paul Revere Wiki page to coincide with her version of history. They're even trying to use the fact that she said it on a news broadcast as being a valid referenced source of its validity and truth of history. Yet no one has been able to find a valid source of what Palin said before she said it. It's all revisionist, twisted to make Palin look smarter than the average Kodiak. Palin implied, and stated outright, that Paul Revere's ride was to warn the British and the Americans, and that's simply not true. She said he warned the British, which is true - he did, but she said he warned them by ringing those bells and firing those shots, which is not true - he didn't. Palin fans are trying to squeeze every last drop out of contextual semantics to make her look smart, but no matter what they do, she's still stoopid.

All you have to do is ask yourself, do you really want Emily Litella in the Oval Office with her finger on The Button?

Why not? We have Obama now! He is just as "ditzy" as she is, if not more. What's new? AND, don't forget that right now we have Biden on deck. Talk about a "dim bulb".
 
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dieseldiva

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All you have to do is ask yourself, do you really want Emily Litella in the Oval Office with her finger on The Button?

As I said before, I don't care if it's Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck or, as someone else said, someone, anyone's DEAD DOG......I will vote for them in order to get rid of the Marxist that's in there now.

Maybe the question should be to you, Turtle. If the choice was Obama or Palin, could you vote for Obama??
 

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Maybe the question should be to you, Turtle. If the choice was Obama or Palin, could you vote for Obama??
Well you got me there. I'd much rather have Emily Litella in the Oval Office than Obama. At least Emily Litella admitted when she was wrong (although Palin has a problem admitting when she's wrong, so maybe comparing those two is off the mark a little). Obama thinks he's never wrong, can do no wrong, and we should just blindly do as he says. When it was between Obama and McCain, as much as I didn't want a bitter, grumpy old man's finger on the button, Obama would be an infinitely worse choice.

The Republicans have got to come up with a better alternative than we've seen so far. People still want hope and change, and they want something other than the old school conventional establishment politician to give it to them. Republicans have to move with the times, they have to realize that people don't want "traditional conservative values" as a government, they want responsible government first and foremost, in whatever form that may take. They want the Constitution to mean something again, not within the scope and bounds of what the religious right says it means, or within the scope of what liberals who want to do away with it says it means, but in the scope of what it was meant from the very beginning. And so far, we've not heard anything from any of the Republican potentials that indicate anything other than politics as usual.
 

witness23

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What's funny about this is that she essentially reduced the Revolutionary War down to a fight for "Gun Rights". lmfao.


Let me get this straight also, Revere was captured, questioned, then(think of "enhanced interrogation" here) by pointing a gun to his chest and his life threatened, he lied about his mission, then released? How fricken' hilarious is that?

Just like here buddy (you know who), she states historical facts, but not in accurate historical context.

If this idiot was smart, she would've come back and restated here facts, and put it in historical context. What does she do, she goes on Wallace's show and double-downs on here idiocy.

Palin said to Wallace:
part of his ride was to warn the British that were already there that, ‘hey, you’re not going to succeed. You’re not going to take American arms. You are not going to beat our own well-armed persons, individual, private militia that we have.’ He did warn the British.

Did Revere warm the British? Yes. Was that part of his mission as Palin describes? No.

And then she goes onto descibe the question as "gotchya-type" question? huh?

Palin said:
And in a shout-out, gotcha-type of question that was asked of me, I answered candidly. And I know my American history.”

Oh, and if you haven't watched Wallace's Sunday morning interview yesterday, I highly recommend it. Just strange I tell you. Especially at the end when she tell's Wallace, "now its time to make the soup". Trust me, its worth the 25 minutes.
 

xiggi

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Oh, and if you haven't watched Wallace's Sunday morning interview yesterday, I highly recommend it. Just strange I tell you. Especially at the end when she tell's Wallace, "now its time to make the soup". Trust me, its worth the 25 minutes.

Good suggestion, she was very good in that interview and had some great answers to policy questions.l I have even heard some on the left today say she did well in that interview. Not sure what you watched.
 

dieseldiva

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Well you got me there. QUICK.....somebody get the calendar and take note of the day and time that this was written!! :D I'd much rather have Emily Litella in the Oval Office than Obama. At least Emily Litella admitted when she was wrong (although Palin has a problem admitting when she's wrong, so maybe comparing those two is off the mark a little). Obama thinks he's never wrong, can do no wrong, and we should just blindly do as he says. When it was between Obama and McCain, as much as I didn't want a bitter, grumpy old man's finger on the button, Obama would be an infinitely worse choice.

The Republicans have got to come up with a better alternative than we've seen so far. People still want hope and change, and they want something other than the old school conventional establishment politician to give it to them. Republicans have to move with the times, they have to realize that people don't want "traditional conservative values" as a government, they want responsible government first and foremost, in whatever form that may take. They want the Constitution to mean something again, not within the scope and bounds of what the religious right says it means, or within the scope of what liberals who want to do away with it says it means, but in the scope of what it was meant from the very beginning. And so far, we've not heard anything from any of the Republican potentials that indicate anything other than politics as usual.

Your last paragraph needs to be pointed to the Republican establishment as they seem to continue to "not get it". Those of us that consider ourselves conservatives are so disgusted with these people and their inability to see beyond the beltway......it's the same with the administration, I don't like being considered a "bump in the road" if I'm struggling right now. SOMEONE needs to get in there with a real grip of what's going on......both houses of Congress as well, we're far from finished cleaning out that bunch!
 
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