Paid miles per month, yearly average??

apollo

Expert Expediter
Just more questions as I still consider expediting as a career.

How many paid miles per month is everyone averaging, team or solo?

How about yearly?

How many weeks on the road/home time to get these figures?

I am considering FedEx CC or Panther II, so if anyone drives for them that would be a plus.

Thanks...

Apollo :)
 

Glen Rice

Veteran Expediter
Big difference between a single driver and a team. As a team with Fedex I can tell you we ran just over 21000 miles in a month. When I went out as a single I rarely hit 10000 miles. The real question is how hungry are you? You can run relatively short miles by staying on the east coast and have good revenue figures. Aren't you more interested in money than miles? That is the hardest habit to break! Stop worrying about miles and concentrate on $$$$. Some of my best weeks I ran very few miles. Go figure!
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
I agree with Glen. It is the revenue you have to watch, not the miles. We average pretty much the same miles as a team. Too many trips out west do effect that figure with a straight truck or van. Singles generally do about half. Maybe even less with the new HOS. That is probably going to change again and I feel the solo drivers will be affected more than the teams.If the opportunity is there to run a team, that would be the way to go. Especially if it is husband and wife.
Davekc
On a side note; don't get truck fever and get way in over your head with a truck payment. Might consider driving for a owner, just to test the waters.
 

apollo

Expert Expediter
Thanks for the feedback.

I would be driving for an owner when I do it as a team with my brother possibly.

If companies pay for example $1.15 a mile for a D truck and an owner pays 60%, that is .69cpm to the driver(minus fuel, tolls or whatever..).

How do you make more by running less miles like Glen stated?

What am I missing with the miles and pay discussion?

Thanks...

Apollo
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
First I would look for a company that pays more than $1.15 per loaded mile.
You should look as well to expect 100% of the fuel surcharge from the owner if you are paying for the fuel.
Keeping that in mind, it should put you closer to .80 per mile with .30 per mile going for fuel, tolls, food ect.
This amount will change accordingly depending on whether you are getting DH pay, assessory pay, and something over a $1.15 per mile. Some pay part, while others pay all of it relevant to DH & assec. pay.
My personal opinion is you should be around .40 to .45 cents for ALL miles after expenses. Anything much less than that would be an invitation to pursue TT driving. After a year or so you would be at that rate plus benefits.
Davekc
 

jaminjim

Veteran Expediter
Holly crapola, Man am I on with the wrong company on a good month I only get around 6000 paid miles a great one is 7000 paid miles (solo) But my dead head is a little bit OVER 50%. Long story and I hate typing, but things will change very soon....better half will team up with me and we will change companys.

21,000 miles a week is what I need..

Jim
 

apollo

Expert Expediter
I see that Panther pays 1.20 cpm for a D unit. I haven't seen anyone offering more..unless I am not looking in the right places.

All the owners I have talked to give the fuel surcharge to the driver. So that is good, but how much is the surcharge usually? I thought I read somewhere it was 3cpm at one company and another was 9cpm...does that sound close?

I did figure roughly 22cpm for fuel at the average of 1.79 a few weeks back. So the extra 8 cpm should cover tolls, etc.

I had planned on taking as much food as possible with me and avoid eating out and wasting money on a lot of "fast food" that really isn't good for a person anyway. That will save a few bucks.

Thanks for all the feedback.

Apollo :)
 

barney

Expert Expediter
You must be looking in the wrong places for pay. Con-Way Now says $1.25 for D and $ 1.35 for super D , E in this case, as I was told that they added another size truck and a TT is now an F. And now I am totaly confused. I used to drive for FedEx. The pay for a D was suposed to be $1.57, but very rarely happened. Usually around $1.30. The truckstop babysitting ate most of the proffit. You know a week here a week there.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
Panther right now is paying $1.20 unless you are in Special Services. That is .30 per mile more. Our surcharges as of late have ran from .06 per mile to .23 cents per mile. If the truck has been there a while the base pay is 1.35 for a straight. Certainly much better than $1.15. With higher fuel and expenses, $1.15 will soon become a thing of the past. One could not operate on that unless there is very little DH. I am not aware of any companies that can accomplish that unless they just run the tri-state area of the midwest and your trips consist of mostly1, 2 and 300 mile runs.
Davekc
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
Express-1 is 1.15 for a D-unit. Isn't Tri-state the lowest in the field? I remember their o/os griping about getting .81 a mile.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
I believe tri-state is now 1.15 per mile.
Use to be 1.00 per mile and 2 or 3 cent fuel surcharge.
Not sure what they currently pay on FS.
Davekc
 

jaminjim

Veteran Expediter
How many miles are you guys running deadhead to get that 21,000 miles paid? Do you get some pay for the deadhead or mostly take it on the chin.
I really have something to look forward to in a few weeks. Those miles are what I got into trucking to do. We plan on staying out around 3 to 4 weeks at a time.

I know this will seem nosey but to confirm that I understand the gross that a well managed team who will run hard in a d unit is around $25 grand per month to the truck. During the good times that most everyone is enjoying right now, except me.:(

Jim
 

mcbride

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
>You must be looking in the wrong places for pay. Con-Way Now
>says $1.25 for D and $ 1.35 for super D , E in this case, as
>I was told that they added another size truck and a TT is
>now an F. And now I am totaly confused. I used to drive for
>FedEx. The pay for a D was suposed to be $1.57, but very
>rarely happened. Usually around $1.30.


Hi Barney,

We drive for Con-Way Now. We have been with them a little over 3 years. I guess we must have what you are calling a super D, although we have never been told we were this. Most of the freight we haul is at what is called "discounted rate" and you would be paid $1.07 per loaded mile. Because we have been with them over 2 years we get a penny more so we are paid $1.08 per mile. We do get some "full rate" loads each month but they are not the norm. We have found that if you get a couple of full rate loads in a week that you can make about $1.25 per mile average but like I said this doesn't happen very often.

I was also told that the shorter runs often times pay more per mile but as we run as a team we don't do many of the shorter milage runs.


mcbride-
--What goes around comes around-
 

barney

Expert Expediter
Thanks for setting me straight. I messed up and listened to a fleet owner instead of a driver. $1.07 glad I didn't take the truck. I could make out at $1.07 if I owned the truck, but not as a driver.
Barney:+
 

RichM

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
25 K a month to a well managed D unit. Sorry but it ain't going to happen.That would be $300,000 per year gross. Even if you just took 2 weeks off you would have to average $6,000 per week. I don't think even a team would be able to have the hours to do that every week.
Do the math.Lets say you averaged $1.25 per loaded mile. That works out to 4800 loaded miles every week,add 30% deadhead and you now are driving 6240 miles every week. To do this in a 6 day time frame you would have to run 1040 miles every day(whew,wheres you out just thinking about it) now you need time off for maintenace, family commitments, etc. If you ran 1040 miles every day your health would give out real quick, no matter how comfortable your sleeper is,also due to fatigue the chemistry between the drivers would erode real quick.
 

jaminjim

Veteran Expediter
Well That is why I was asking, maybe they were talking all miles driven. That would make it a day in the shade for a team. Using 6 days a week times 4.3 weeks a month would put you at 814 miles a day. still a lot, but can be done.

I want to say that I am not trying to pry but get a good handle on income potential.
I agree it is all about the money per mile once you make all of your expenses. A buddy of mine at the EGL station that I work out of averages $2.00 per mile for all miles and is home every night, mostly working between 7:00am and 7:00pm five and a half days week. (he will take some hotshots but he calls himself the city Bi_ch). I should switch over to it but among the reasons is I hate local work. don't know Cincinnasty, And live 75 miles from the "station".
 

apollo

Expert Expediter
$2.00 per mile? How many local miles is he driving a day or week? Does anyone know if EGL has a station in the Atlanta area? I live 45 minutes South of Atlanta.

Apollo
 

teacel

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
If so & you add up all the miles he is driving it may very well work out to about $2.00 per mile, but add up all the time in the truck at any given day and see if in fact is it really a deal? Then if he is getting paid $18.00 an hour it would be worth it - I think that is if you like doing the city thing and working for another. EX: If you drive a truck 50 miles then sit and get your on the clock pay your average per mile rate could be $4.00 per mile!!! It may be a good idea to paint the whole picture on this forum so the newer members don't think someone is paying $2.00 per mile to run the road???????????
 
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