Over weight on axles

zorry

Veteran Expediter
Didn't worry about ow tickets when I was union. We are talking about ow tickets in a non-union situation.
 

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I think you proved my point.

I don't believe you have a point, at least not a valid one! In post #6 you stated: "...in face not having a union empowers the driver even more because the union sometimes gets in the way of safety."

Again I ask how is this so? Please give some examples.

If the union stood for safety, then why are you worried about overweight tickets?
Who is worried about overweight tickets and how is the union involved in overweight tickets?
 
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greg334

Veteran Expediter
I said sometimes, like when I pick up at one of the refrigerated warehouses that is teamsters represent here in the area. A couple drivers who found out they were overloaded complained after hitting the scales and that went to the union rep with hope he would side with the drivers. I said hope because it has been a problem before. The rep told the drivers "take the ****ing load or you won't be driving here".

I've seen the reverse happen, the drivers know they were overloaded or something else is wrong and complained with the union backing them and the company fixed the problem.

I understand this may not be the norm, I give you that but it seems that by blaming the company and not taking responsibility for your load is what the union - UAW/Teamsters - seem to created in the mentality that many have.
 

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
The rep told the drivers "take the ****ing load or you won't be driving here".
So you're saying a Teamster BA has the power to fire drivers for refusing an overweight load. That doesn't even make sense. You gotta do better than that.
 

usafk9

Veteran Expediter
How so? Any examples? Is it the Teamster Happy Hour Drink Discount Card honored at many layover hotels?

There's a drink discount card? They never told me.:D

Second most worthless organization I've belonged to.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
So you're saying a Teamster BA has the power to fire drivers for refusing an overweight load. That doesn't even make sense. You gotta do better than that.

Nope not saying he does have that power, what I'm saying is that he is there to represent the members and in telling the driver to take the load, he is not doing his job. It brings up the question does he represent the company and will he report back to the company which will have that employee at risk?

AND got to do better?

No disrespect there Moot, I don't know what it is like up where you are at, but I do know there are a bunch of crap pulled by many companies and the union goes right along with it here - there is no absolutes. It has been an issue for steel haulers who were overloaded back when union jobs were good - they were told not to rock the boat and when a few did, they were out of work. I know a few in construction who had the same thing happen to them when they were driving Trains, they were told to drive and shut up.
 
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