Ovary.. appendix.. whatever

[RLENT]

What about when they agree?

Heads explode ?

 

[zorry]

Getting back to the OP. I am quite happy that I have NEITHER, an appendix or a set of ovaries. I had an appendix, once, a long time ago. I was in Japan when I lost it. The surgeon on the base got ALL excited when he said there was no time to ship me down to a base near Tokyo to have it removed. He said he had not had a chance to do ANY kind of surgery of 6 months and he needed the practice.

THAT was bad enough,

THEN

because of my security clearances, it was required that there be another cleared person in the room when one of use was put under for surgery, and in the recovery room, just in case we said things that maybe we should not be saying.

SO

They gave that duty to my friend, Smitty, who, in the "world", was a mortician. The LAST thing I remember, as the nurse was injecting the "solution" into my IV was, the mortician, Smitty, sitting there saying, "I will be waiting for you, Joe", all while remembering that my surgeon was very much out of practice.

I seem to remember surviving the ordeal.

Or DID you ?

Could this all be just a dream ??

 

[RLENT]

I'm still looking for a little clarification on exactly what this thread is supposed to be about ... Obamacare ... or medical errors ?

Or is it strictly about possible/potential medical errors/malpractice at some future point under Obamacare ?

(Assuming that it's not repealed of course ...)

 

[layoutshooter]

Or DID you ?

Could this all be just a dream ??

No, I am not insane enough to dream up a nightmare this bad.

I could dream up a "Godzilla", a "Mothra" or even a "Rodan the Flying Monster". I could NEVER dream up something as hideous scary as an "Obama" or a "Hillary". THAT would be SICK!

 

[aristotle]

I "harranged" RLENT and stated my reasoning long before I mentioned anything about the team I had the conversation with. I stated my reasons quite plainly in posts #48 and #50, and I stand by them. Like I said, I didn't use that conversation to make my case, which would have been hypocritical. RLENT was too confrontational in trying to corner jamom, trying to pin him (or her, I dunno) down to answer a specific question, even after jamom clearly didn't want to engage in that particular conversation. He kept on, like a dog with a bone, wanting to know the motivations for what was posted, instead of simply dealing with what was posted. Every bit of it belonged in another thread or in a PM.

As an afterthought I mentioned the conversation I recently had, because it echoed the sentiments that have been posted in these forums by others in the past, that being we often don't create an inviting environment for new members. You know how to create an inviting environment? Stay on topic and reply to the post instead of the poster.

Beautifully stated. If we follow Turtle's simple advice, this forum will have many, many more participants.

 

[RLENT]

I'm sure you aren't. However, there are potential posters who are, two of whom (husband and wife team) referenced this very thread in a conversation on Saturday night. They were sitting in Denny's and I noticed EO on their laptop as I walked by. I asked if they were EO members and they said they read EO fairly often, but they don't post here. One said, "Why would I set myself up to be grilled because I failed to post a doctoral thesis defending my opinion?"

Doctoral thesis ?

I'm unsure where I ever requested that ...

I think I simply asked why the party in question would say that someone who had said they favored a single payer system had "probably spent too much in Russia" ...

I'm fairly sure that there are a significant numbers of folks here in the US that favor a single-payer system, who have never spent any time whatsoever in Russia ... and which quite possibly may include many folks, who at this very moment think we ought to immediately deploy troops to Ukraine to slap down that out-of-control mad dog Commie Putin and put him in his place ...

The other one noted something about the alleged opinions of an alleged doctor friend who may or may not even exist, as no proofs were offered up for his existence, which she found ironic coming from someone who was demanding proof of motivations.

Not demanding "proof" of anything ... just inquiring as to what informs someone's reasoning to cause them to make a particular (conclusory) statement.

It seems to me that if one wants to understand where someone is coming from, and/or how they got there, knowing what informs those opinions might be of some utility ... to say nothing of allowing one to make an informed assessment of the relative value or merit of those opinions ...

BTW, I don't believe that anyone ever asked for any proofs of the existence of an alleged doctor friend ... although I do believe there was at least one comment made that observed that he might be fictional, rather than existing in fact.

 

[Turtle]

Doctoral thesis ?

Her words, not mine. Irrelevant, though.

I think I simply asked why the party in question would say that someone who had said they favored a single payer system had "probably spent too much in Russia" ...

Right. Yes. Exactly. Goes to the poster, not the post.

I'm fairly sure that there are a significant numbers of folks here in the US that favor a single-payer system, who have never spent any time whatsoever in Russia ... and which quite possibly may include many folks, who at this very moment think we ought to immediately deploy troops to Ukraine to slap down that out-of-control mad dog Commie Putin and put him in his place ...

...tea in China.

Not demanding "proof" of anything ... just inquiring as to what informs someone's reasoning to cause them to make a particular (conclusory) statement.

Motives of the poster, not the post.

It seems to me that if one wants to understand where someone is coming from, and/or how they got there, knowing what informs those opinions might be of some utility ... to say nothing of allowing one to make an informed assessment of the relative value or merit of those opinions ...

All true, and none of which is part of the topic. A PM would be an excellent place to explore such things.

BTW, I don't believe that anyone ever asked for any proofs of the existence of an alleged doctor friend ... although I do believe there was at least one comment made that observed that he might be fictional, rather than existing in fact.

His words, not mine. I don't care one way or the other.

 

[cheri1122]

Her words, not mine. Irrelevant, though.

Right. Yes. Exactly. Goes to the poster, not the post.

...tea in China.


Motives of the poster, not the post.

All true, and none of which is part of the topic. A PM would be an excellent place to explore such things.

His words, not mine. I don't care one way or the other.

Questioning why a comment was made is always about motive, and never about supporting one's statements? And if it is about motive, is that not better than assuming one knows the motive already?
I am sorry there are people who feel they need to "post a doctoral thesis" defending their opinions, because they are exaggerating the drawbacks [you can be wrong!] in order to justify the fear of putting themselves out there. We [not just EO, but the whole **** country] need more people who aren't afraid to discuss things, and question them, and learn from others.
Besides: it's just words, lol - nobody actually gets beat up, not even me.