Our New Straight Truck !
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piattteam
Active Expediter
I can email the info to anybody wanting it [email protected]
zorry
Veteran Expediter
I hope you are right. I've never heard that angle.
zorry
Veteran Expediter
For those curious, the ruling Gary is looking at pertains to retailers that would buy a body for stock. They do not know it's final use, which may be over or under the 33,000.
When it gets sold to an end user, if the usage
is over 33,000 lbs the tax then becomes due.
If the end user will be under 33,000 lbs no tax is due.
When it gets sold to an end user, if the usage
is over 33,000 lbs the tax then becomes due.
If the end user will be under 33,000 lbs no tax is due.
ChanceMaster
Expert Expediter
Zorry please post your thoughts after reading the shared info.
zorry
Veteran Expediter
I did, in post 66.
If the truck is used in a 33000 plus capacity the tax is owed.
If Autozone buys a Supreme body for resale, they don't know who they will sell it to, or for what application, so they will not pay FET.
When Autozone sells it to BillyBob Trucking, BillyBob may or may not owe FET.
Gary is buying a two axle truck that he will plate at 32000 lbs. There will be no tax due, unless later he ups the capacity of the vehicle. At that time, tax will be due.
Mr Piattteam and Mr Chancemaster are both named Gary.
If the truck is used in a 33000 plus capacity the tax is owed.
If Autozone buys a Supreme body for resale, they don't know who they will sell it to, or for what application, so they will not pay FET.
When Autozone sells it to BillyBob Trucking, BillyBob may or may not owe FET.
Gary is buying a two axle truck that he will plate at 32000 lbs. There will be no tax due, unless later he ups the capacity of the vehicle. At that time, tax will be due.
Mr Piattteam and Mr Chancemaster are both named Gary.
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For anyone building a new truck, this is one of the best questions you can ask of a driver who has built a truck before. "What would you do different?" Diane and I asked many drivers that when we were thinking through our truck build. The answers were very informative.
So, Zorry, what would you do different to really get it right if you were to build a truck again?
In our case, the answer is "not much." There are a few minor tweaks we would make to the sleeper, but they would not apply in the next build because we would put our present sleeper on the new truck, thereby saving the price of a new sleeper.
Actually, only two sleeper tweaks come to mind. We would not purchase again the decorative rope lighting that runs along the bottom edge of the kitchen counter. That thing has not been turned on for more than an hour total in the seven years we have had the truck.
We would also look to move the controls for the roof heat/AC unit to the control panel near the head of the bed. The unit we spec'ed in the build was one that ARI did not typically use at the time and the controls are on the unit itself.
As I think about it more, a third change would be to the kitchen sink cover. It is a change I believe ARI has already made, such that when put in place, the cover sits recessed in the sink so the surface is flush with the counter top. The outside edges of our cover extend beyond the inside edges of the sink so the cover itself sits slightly above the counter surface.
We could have this corrected now by having a new cover made. Like I said, these are minor tweaks, and this one is so minor that it has not been worth the cost to change. The cover as it is does the job.
That's pretty good, if I may say so myself. We spec'ed the sleeper seven years ago, and after that much use, those are the changes we would make to it if a replacement was built. But there would not be a replacement because our old sleeper would go on the new truck.
Our ARI sleeper is a delightful piece of equipment and one of the most satisfying purchases we have ever made.
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ChanceMaster
Expert Expediter
As we sit in Seattle ( or North Bend TA) waiting for an acceptable load offer, our dwell time has been almost enjoyable, actually it HAS been enjoyable. Co driver and I sat at the dinette last night with plenty of legroom, eating popcorn and watching two recent release movies on the DVD player. Meal prep has been remarkably easy with the counter space and full size fridge.
I actually have been feeling sorry for the drivers parked next to us in a CRST tractor, team operation in a stock tractor with no amenities, they spent ALL day in that thing yesterday, and I'm sure they were not NEARLY as comfortable as I.
I'm ready to roll, rested and with a good attitude when the call comes in. What's THAT worth ?
I actually have been feeling sorry for the drivers parked next to us in a CRST tractor, team operation in a stock tractor with no amenities, they spent ALL day in that thing yesterday, and I'm sure they were not NEARLY as comfortable as I.
I'm ready to roll, rested and with a good attitude when the call comes in. What's THAT worth ?
What'd you watch?
ChanceMaster
Expert Expediter
Scott, Redbox rental, 42 and Djanjo. Was so comfortable that I fell asleep during Django. 42 ( about Jackie Robinson) was interesting.
TruckingSurv
Seasoned Expediter
zorry
Veteran Expediter
What changes would I make ?
I bought the cab/chassis off the lot. I knew it would be as close to perfect as I would get.
It has a 20,000 lb steer axle. 14,600 would be ideal. Would rather have the 20,000 than 12,000 or 13,200. It has 16,000 lb front springs.
Two minor options that were missed that I would like. The Hold Assist for hills and the PreTrip Assist. This repeats a cycling of your lights as you walk around truck and does a timed leak down test on air systems. Tells you of leaks and if they are severe enough to not pass a roadside inspection.
Other than that, I might look at a smaller engine/ fuel economy packages. With no attempt to save fuel, I stay above 10, have seen some low 12's and believe with some efforts it could do as well as the Detroit's
I've been around ICT since they started. One of their first customers. The ARI is great as built.
If I were to build a C,CR, or D I would definitely do Volvo/ARI.
If I were to build a DR I would investigate a mid-roof Volvo. This would give you the openness of a
Bentz and be very economical. I would take it to ARI for some interior mods( big refrig, lighting, cabinets.)
There were 4 Fedex Volvos at Ontario this weekend. And a guy that says his two Volvo's will be at ICT this week fir 120 in sleepers with showers.
Under $200,000. Hope they work out.
I would go with Supreme, Morgan, or Kidron again.
T-Val people said I had smoothest/quietest liftgate they've ever been on. MBB/Interlift.
Would go with a different model MBB and ask Phil if I should put channel in nose of body to recess reefer lines.
Carrier has never given us an alarm and passed another TVal test.
204,000 miles and 4.5 hrs downtime plus one 45 min parked regen.
Would do it very close to what I have.
I bought the cab/chassis off the lot. I knew it would be as close to perfect as I would get.
It has a 20,000 lb steer axle. 14,600 would be ideal. Would rather have the 20,000 than 12,000 or 13,200. It has 16,000 lb front springs.
Two minor options that were missed that I would like. The Hold Assist for hills and the PreTrip Assist. This repeats a cycling of your lights as you walk around truck and does a timed leak down test on air systems. Tells you of leaks and if they are severe enough to not pass a roadside inspection.
Other than that, I might look at a smaller engine/ fuel economy packages. With no attempt to save fuel, I stay above 10, have seen some low 12's and believe with some efforts it could do as well as the Detroit's
I've been around ICT since they started. One of their first customers. The ARI is great as built.
If I were to build a C,CR, or D I would definitely do Volvo/ARI.
If I were to build a DR I would investigate a mid-roof Volvo. This would give you the openness of a
Bentz and be very economical. I would take it to ARI for some interior mods( big refrig, lighting, cabinets.)
There were 4 Fedex Volvos at Ontario this weekend. And a guy that says his two Volvo's will be at ICT this week fir 120 in sleepers with showers.
Under $200,000. Hope they work out.
I would go with Supreme, Morgan, or Kidron again.
T-Val people said I had smoothest/quietest liftgate they've ever been on. MBB/Interlift.
Would go with a different model MBB and ask Phil if I should put channel in nose of body to recess reefer lines.
Carrier has never given us an alarm and passed another TVal test.
204,000 miles and 4.5 hrs downtime plus one 45 min parked regen.
Would do it very close to what I have.
tknight
Veteran Expediter
Can you just pick a weight limit for a truck?
zorry
Veteran Expediter
When a truck is built a GVW is determined. Basically it'll be the combined axle ratings added together.
12,000 frt and 20,000 rear for example.
That's a 32,000 GVW truck and falls under the 12% fet tax.
If you add a tag and plate it to work saw as a 46,000 lb truck you have increased the gvw and thus owe the tax.
I think a decent dealer would collect it and pass it on rather than not informing you or saying "Good Luck, hope you get away with it."
zorry
Veteran Expediter
I actually don't know how most dealers handle the tax issue.
Jones didn't return my calls and got scared off of FYDA from so many horror stories. So I never got that deep.
Freightliner wasn't at the top of my list. It would have been a last resort.
The Cascadia /Bentz seem to be doing well so might be considered If I could go to any Frtlnr dealer and then have Donnie do the sleeper.
See no reason to switch from Volvo/ARI.
Jones didn't return my calls and got scared off of FYDA from so many horror stories. So I never got that deep.
Freightliner wasn't at the top of my list. It would have been a last resort.
The Cascadia /Bentz seem to be doing well so might be considered If I could go to any Frtlnr dealer and then have Donnie do the sleeper.
See no reason to switch from Volvo/ARI.