OK - I'll agree with that, considering his religionI think you answered your own question with...
"Up to now all indications point to religious problems."
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This brings up a good question: background checks in the state of TN require a current driver's license or other govt issued photo ID and are processed through the TBI which coordinates their checks with the FBI. If he had failed a drug test at a nuclear facility there's no way he would have passed a background check, regardless of whether or not he lied on the form. News reports say he bought his guns online at armslist.com, which may or may not be true. However, that doesn't matter because even online purchases have to be shipped to a federally licensed firearms dealer where the purchaser has to pass the background check before he can pick up the gun. Something stinks about his story regarding the method he used to acquire his firearms; either he bought them from individuals, somebody bought them for him illegally, or he got them before he failed his drug tests and got his DUI. In any case, he couldn't have purchased the handguns before he was 21.
Regardless, the guns can be traced and the chain of ownership can be established. If he acquired these firearms from legitimate dealers after his drug and alcohol problems, then somebody at the TBI seriously dropped the ball.
I don't think he had been to court yet on the DUI. Not sure who failed drug tests get reported to.
It would be wise to find out which it is before posting it. Do some research - or were you expecting someone else to do it for you?
[QUOTE="aristotle, post: 744246, member: 8870]
How does anyone with a history of depression and drug use manage to get hired at a nuclear facility? Being terminated for a failed drug test would have placed a hurdle on securing future employment as an engineer. How does an individual with this history acquire firearms? Did he conceal his problems on background checks? Mr. Abdulazeez was a conflicted young man probably radicalized on his recent journeys to the Middle East.
Don't discount depression as serious. Depression pops up in the profiles of many seemingly quiet individuals who leave in a blaze of violence.[/QUOTE]
A history of depression can be concealed due to the privacy of medical records. Being fired for a positive drug test doesn't indicate drug use prior to being hired, and those who expect to be drug tested prior to a job offer can simply refrain for whatever time period is required to pass the test.
I've no idea how such an individual acquires firearms, but any suggestion of furthering background testing brings howls of protest, so my guess would be either political, or deception on his part.
Yes, depression can be quite serious: how many women who kill their babies/children are diagnosed with post partum depression? And what is being done to change that? There is still a stigma to mental illness, and a serious lack of treatment that is unacceptable, but who is demanding something more?
We also shouldn't discount the power of religion to 'radicalize' people, even if they never leave their home towns - and not just the Muslim religion, either.
How does anyone with a history of depression and drug use manage to get hired at a nuclear facility? Being terminated for a failed drug test would have placed a hurdle on securing future employment as an engineer. How does an individual with this history acquire firearms? Did he conceal his problems on background checks? Mr. Abdulazeez was a conflicted young man probably radicalized on his recent journeys to the Middle East.
Don't discount depression as serious. Depression pops up in the profiles of many seemingly quiet individuals who leave in a blaze of violence.[/QUOTE]
A history of depression can be concealed due to the privacy of medical records. Being fired for a positive drug test doesn't indicate drug use prior to being hired, and those who expect to be drug tested prior to a job offer can simply refrain for whatever time period is required to pass the test.
I've no idea how such an individual acquires firearms, but any suggestion of furthering background testing brings howls of protest, so my guess would be either political, or deception on his part.
Yes, depression can be quite serious: how many women who kill their babies/children are diagnosed with post partum depression? And what is being done to change that? There is still a stigma to mental illness, and a serious lack of treatment that is unacceptable, but who is demanding something more?
We also shouldn't discount the power of religion to 'radicalize' people, even if they never leave their home towns - and not just the Muslim religion, either.
I don't have a clue what you're talking about - and my earlier [spam] comment was because you don't either.
JohnWC
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I looked it up its in the Inquisitr. Ture or not I don't know but I figger your going to start telling us why isis. Has their rights to kill usI don't have a clue what you're talking about - and my earlier [spam] comment was because you don't either.
Background checks are handled by the FBI. There really isn't a higher level to access nor are there any more detailed or complete records. Unless full disclosure of mental records are going to be made a part of the NICS system there isn't much that can be upgraded or changed. It is unlikely that will ever happen, nor should it. That leaves far more severe penalties on those who misuse and abuse firearms as well as much greater authorization for honest citizens to be prepared to defend themselves. Those are the only solutions and they won't be absolute but they will greatly reduce the negative incidents.
RLENT
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Actually, in this instance what LDB is displaying is religious bigotry, not racism ...
However, one certainly doesn't preclude the other ... and neither precludes sheer stupidity.
Windsor
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The name of this thread pisses me off. If mitt was president would it be called the Mormon in chief? Our president isn't a Muslim and so what if he was. Just because someone is a Muslim don't mean they are a radical Muslim. I'm down south as I speak, I bet I can find more radical Christians down here by the end of the week then I could find radical Muslims in a year in this country. He'll I'll just go to some clan rallies and I'll have more than I can count. You know, good old American Christians that teach violence, hate and intolerance just like radical Muslims do. It's time for an atheists president, seriously! I'm so tired of the bs.
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Members:
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Associate JusticesANTONIN SCALIA
ANTHONY M. KENNEDY
CLARENCE THOMAS
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STEPHEN G. BREYER
SAMUEL A. ALITO, JR.
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ELENA KAGAN
The Supreme Court of the United States
One First Street, NE, Washington, DC 20543
Phone: 202-479-3211
Members:
Chief Justice of the United StatesJOHN G. ROBERTS, JR.
Associate JusticesANTONIN SCALIA
ANTHONY M. KENNEDY
CLARENCE THOMAS
RUTH BADER GINSBURG
STEPHEN G. BREYER
SAMUEL A. ALITO, JR.
SONIA SOTOMAYOR
ELENA KAGAN