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LDB

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Obamuslim had the time and made a big to do about the end of Ramadan etc. but nothing about the victims in Chattanooga. He hasn't bothered to lower the White House flag to half mast although I'm pretty sure he did that for Whitney Houston. Of course, all those victims were only white men.
 

Ragman

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Obamuslim had the time and made a big to do about the end of Ramadan etc. but nothing about the victims in Chattanooga. He hasn't bothered to lower the White House flag to half mast although I'm pretty sure he did that for Whitney Houston. Of course, all those victims were only white men.
Some have speculated that the lack of a presidential proclamation might be because as tragic and senseless as they were, the Chattanooga deaths involved members of the U.S. armed forces who are considered to have been killed in the line of duty, and while individual states often lower their flags to honor local natives or residents who die in the service of their country, doing so at a national level would require the President to pick and choose among service deaths to decide which to so honor.
 
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xiggi

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Ragman I remember a big stink after the fort hood shooting because they would not award the victims purple hearts. The reason giving was it did not occur in the line of duty. I do not know the final resolution on that.
 

Ragman

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Ragman I remember a big stink after the fort hood shooting because they would not award the victims purple hearts. The reason giving was it did not occur in the line of duty. I do not know the final resolution on that.
I'm not current on the status of Ft Hood either.

It all had to do with who the attackers were.
 

paulnstef39

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Fort Hood was determined to be "work place" violence., not a terror attack, if you can believe that BS.
 

Pilgrim

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Ragman I remember a big stink after the fort hood shooting because they would not award the victims purple hearts. The reason giving was it did not occur in the line of duty. I do not know the final resolution on that.
Since the military recruiters were in uniform, on assignment and under orders performing their assigned service to their country when they were killed, wouldn't it be reasonable to assume they died under enemy fire in the line of duty?
 

cheri1122

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Obamuslim had the time and made a big to do about the end of Ramadan etc. but nothing about the victims in Chattanooga. He hasn't bothered to lower the White House flag to half mast although I'm pretty sure he did that for Whitney Houston. Of course, all those victims were only white men.

You're "pretty sure" about a lot of things that turn out to be hogwash. Obama didn't lower the flag for Whitney Houston - Governor Christie did that. In NJ, because she was from NJ.
Obama offered the condolences of the entire country to the grieving families of those killed in Chattanooga, and vowed to ensure an investigation to determine how it happened. That's 'nothing'?
BTW: the reason the military cannot be armed while on base [for the most part, MPs are armed, of course], is because George HW Bush approved the legislation.
Also: Obama is as much a Muslim as you are a scholar. :rolleyes:
 
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cheri1122

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Since the military recruiters were in uniform, on assignment and under orders performing their assigned service to their country when they were killed, wouldn't it be reasonable to assume they died under enemy fire in the line of duty?

Describing an American citizen with mental problems an "enemy" would be a mistake of enormous proportions.
 

aquitted

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Well I just tried to quote Cheri and couldn't, it seems the quote button has changed before all you had to do was click on "Reply with quote" NOW it wants me to do multiple quotes well I don't want to do multiple quotes, It was fine before why did you change it? So can I get A crash course on quoting please?
Sorry for derailing the thread:mad:
 
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LDB

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You click "reply" for just one and "quote" if you want more than one.
 

xiggi

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You're "pretty sure" about a lot of things that turn out to be hogwash. Obama didn't lower the flag for Whitney Houston - Governor Christie did that. In NJ, because she was from NJ.
Obama offered the condolences of the entire country to the grieving families of those killed in Chattanooga, and vowed to ensure an investigation to determine how it happened. That's 'nothing'?
BTW: the reason the military cannot be armed while on base [for the most part, MPs are armed, of course], is because George HW Bush approved the legislation.
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Cheri I think the push started under HW but was acutely signed by Clinton.
 

Yowpuggy

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We can't blame anyone one for that because the military doesn't carry weapons all the time, unless they're in a combat zone
 

aristotle

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Obamuslim had the time and made a big to do about the end of Ramadan etc. but nothing about the victims in Chattanooga. He hasn't bothered to lower the White House flag to half mast although I'm pretty sure he did that for Whitney Houston. Of course, all those victims were only white men.
If my math is right, 18 months from today will be inauguration day for our next president. January 20th, 2017. How much more wreckage from here to there?
 

Pilgrim

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Describing an American citizen with mental problems an "enemy" would be a mistake of enormous proportions.
How do you know he had "mental problems"?? He might have had minor drug problems with pot and alcohol (which are forbidden by Islam), but minor depression (if that was actually the case) doesn't qualify. Up to now all indications point to religious problems. Anyone who attacks our military personnel in or out of uniform for the purpose of doing our country harm is an enemy.
 

aristotle

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Mr. Abdulazeez had real problems: reportedly, he had been treated for depression going back to his early teen years. Additionally, the Chattanooga shooter had been fired from a job at a nuclear facility in Ohio due to a failed drug test. Then, a DUI arrest.

How does anyone with a history of depression and drug use manage to get hired at a nuclear facility? Being terminated for a failed drug test would have placed a hurdle on securing future employment as an engineer. How does an individual with this history acquire firearms? Did he conceal his problems on background checks? Mr. Abdulazeez was a conflicted young man probably radicalized on his recent journeys to the Middle East.

Don't discount depression as serious. Depression pops up in the profiles of many seemingly quiet individuals who leave in a blaze of violence.
 
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