OOIDA continues to fight HOS

LDB

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Retired Expediter
As stated before, they are the only ones truly working for our best interests. Take advantage of the $20 discount by giving them any member's name and member number and join them.

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greg334

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You know I read OOIDA's article and something did not look right. I understand the issues surrounding the OOIDA and the teamsters’ position but because the OOIDA and the teamsters may not have sited any of the studies that the DOD and DOT have done in the past, I think is part of the reason for the denial.

But with that said, I disagree with Leo. He has it only partially right. I am going to repeat something that I strongly believe in and does matter regardless what any one says; it takes all of us to get involved to get these unfair RULES CHANGED.

Even though joining the OOIDA is a good thing, they can’t do it all alone and to expect them to be the lone voice is really, well...bad. If you are not registered to vote, get registered and VOTE. If you are registered, write your representative, even visit them. OUR representatives have no clue what is going on because they don’t hear from you. As many times a lot of you say it does not matter, it is only because of that reason that things will never change. I can't believe people, anyone who says it does not matter, it shows that you; don’t care and think you don’t have a voice, don’t understand the system, have a very poor perspective of the country or just are lazy to help make a change – you take you pick which one who you are. Yea this sounds harsh and I may sound like an a** about it, but hey I know that it works and only see changes when everyone effected gets involved.

OH MY GOD I sound like a hippie activist, I need therapy.....pass the Ben and Jerry’s
 

Crazynuff

Veteran Expediter
OOIDA also lost on the surcharge issue . When was the last time they won an issue acting on their own ? They even joined forces with PATT on the new HOS issue . They may claim to be fighting for the truckers as a whole but I can tell you personally they don't want to be bothered with problems of individual truckers . Better deals can be found on most of the services they offer .Their interest is finding a few truckers with even minor contract problems with a trucking company so they can publicize it and file a class action suit . When the president of OOIDA wrote to ATA members criticizing the head of ATA he didn't gain any support . The impression you make on many members of the trucking industry dispkaying your OOIDA stickers is not favorable .
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
<snip>
They may
>claim to be fighting for the truckers as a whole but I can
>tell you personally they don't want to be bothered with
>problems of individual truckers.<snip>

My experience with OOIDA is exactly the opposite. Some time ago Diane and I were having a dispute with a fleet owner over money he said he did not owe us and we said he did. Being in the area, we stopped in the OOIDA office, without an appointment, to further research our position.

The receptionist greeted us and made a call. Within minutes I was sitting in a small conference room off the reception area with a man who proved to be very knowledgable about the relevant laws and peoeples' practices in such disputes. He offered to write a letter on our behalf to the fleet owner, who is also an OOIDA member. He also offered to talk to us both to see if something could be worked out.

We were in the early stages of the dispute so I declined his offers at the time but said I may take him up on them later. As things turned out, a letter from us to our fleet owner was sufficient to resolve the issue and the fleet owner paid us all money owed.

Nevertheless, I walked out of the OOIDA office with a positive impression. I am proud to support an organization that provides such immediate, competent, and individual support to its members.
 

simon says

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Charter Member
Yes, they can help an individual with a problem, and yes, they publicize the issues but: writing your congressman is about as useless as voting for a candidate against war. When OOIDA sent me an e-mail to support the recent anti-immgration bill, I told them they should stick to drivers' issues, and decided not to renew my membership. That's all we need is another pretense to impose restrictions at the border- and even in the FAST lane on some weapons smuggling scheme!
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
Simon... immigration is a trucking issue. OOIDA addresses issues that affect truckers, and immigrants pose a threat to trucking in no small measure.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
>Yes, they can help an individual with a problem, and yes,
>they publicize the issues but: writing your congressman is
>about as useless as voting for a candidate against war. When
>OOIDA sent me an e-mail to support the recent
>anti-immgration bill, I told them they should stick to
>drivers' issues, and decided not to renew my membership.
>That's all we need is another pretense to impose
>restrictions at the border- and even in the FAST lane on
>some weapons smuggling scheme!

Sorry Simon Says, I think this is the attitude that is the cause of the failure in trucking and most of the country in general.

I have to say you need to look at some of these things with the kids today, thanks to the mandated community service c**p. I mean that several small groups of people make a big stink about some insignificant subject that affects no one here. They take their fight to the people who make the laws, have oversight of the different departments and they not only get the attention of their representatives but also meet with several committee members and even get tours of the capital. See the thing is if this small group of people can do it, why can’t many of us?

Immigration and invaders (or pc term ‘illegal aliens’) is not only a big issue in the industry but causes you and your family to be in danger by not having English only laws and prevents law enforcement to do the right thing to keep some of these people off the road. I am not saying all immigration is a bad thing, on the contrary it somewhat stabilizes the country in many ways. But that is another subject all together.

I support the OOIDA and a large number of other organizations that help all of us, even though I am not a member. Most have a lobbying group and can’t do it alone. With the attitude that a lot of truckers have (not just a few expediters) I find that they cry the most but when it comes to mobilization, they all think that someone else will do it for them and don’t want to get involved.

As one trucker commented when I was in Tampa a few weeks ago, “…it is not like we are all together in this profession; there is a brotherhood so to speak but it all stops at the door when we have to give a dime to help or need to step in to make a change…†I have to agree with him. It is funny that we all preach the greatness of independence but to further help our independence and make sure it lives on, many don’t believe in a united front or even the simplest things will make a difference.

I don’t like to use hippie terms but it all starts with you.

Apollo, thanks for the links but that is the first step. I have more on the way soon.
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
>But with that said, I disagree with Leo. He has it only
>partially right. I am going to repeat something that I
>strongly believe in and does matter regardless what any one
>says; it takes all of us to get involved to get these unfair
>RULES CHANGED.
>
>Even though joining the OOIDA is a good thing, they can’t
>do it all alone and to expect them to be the lone voice is
>really, well...bad. If you are not registered to vote, get
>registered and VOTE. If you are registered, write your
>representative, even visit them. OUR representatives have no
>clue what is going on because they don’t hear from you.

I agree that joining OOIDA is only one step among many that should be taken. I go to my reps office and they know me by name when I walk in the door. I'm not quite sure that's a totally good thing but be that as it may I do vote and make noise on my own as well.

I still return to my original thesis that OOIDA works for us more than any other trucking organization and the more members they have the more they will have to be listened to. That's how it works and everyone should join them.

Leo Bricker, owner trucks 3034, 4958
OOIDA 677319
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LDB

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Retired Expediter
>When OOIDA sent me an e-mail to support the recent
>anti-immgration bill, I told them they should stick to
>drivers' issues, and decided not to renew my membership.

I'd have to call that a mistake on two counts. Illegals are a major driver issue and not being a member of OOIDA means one less on the roster when they talk to politicians. Every member counts. Rethink and rejoin. Besides, you can save 20 bucks for this year by using someone's name and member number.

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OOIDA 677319
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simon says

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Charter Member
Someone please explain how "illegals" are a driver's issue? We have drivers from Poland, Pakistan, Russia, Mexico, etc, etc- as trucking has to dig deeper to find enough drivers. Some are independents working for small owners, some for fleets, and so on. Some are good drivers, and some are not. In fact, I find the "white" Canadian driver attitude toward Pakistanis disgusting & racist.
If I want to find a driver or team for my truck, I can find someone, and probably willing to work out of a 63". I could care less where they are from or their gender: are they honest, hard-working, have some manners, etc.
My Point was two-fold:
1) Illegal alien legislation is a political red herring, designed to confuse people over real/imagined issues. The loss of jobs is historically linked to scapegoating someone else.
2) Nothing significant ever happens by writing your congressman- Landline spends a lot of time promoting their PAC prowess... B.S.x(
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Illegals are an issue in every industry because there are scumbags who will hire them at a lower rate than a "legal" or a citizen. Dropping OOIDA because they are concerned over a legitimate issue, or for any other reason for that matter, is a poor decision.

Leo Bricker, owner trucks 3034, 4958
OOIDA 677319
73's K5LDB
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