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Bruno

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
US Marines
Nope, pulling the last truck as of next Monday. Nobody returned my phone call in regards to the ER unit so I was told to pull it. I guess you could take me off the FedEx forum now. Hey I was told your back Driving a van for FedEx? Glad to hear your back out on the road again. I hope your doing good in a Van. What Kind did you buy?
 
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ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
You and your fleet of trucks, like us with our one T/T are proof that there is "successful" life after FECC and that they are not the best game in town as so many like to think!

I happen to believe that FedEx Custom Critical is the best game in town, which is why I stay. If I knew of a better game for the kind of trucking we want to do, lifestyle we live and money we want to make, I'd go to the better game.

There is more to this than what I'd like to think and I take some umbrage at your "so many like to think" choice of words.

Our decision to join and stay with FedEx Custom Critical was and is made based on factual and ongoing research; not lunch counter research, not CB research, not Open Forum research, but factual and ongoing research -- the quality of which improves with our growing industry experience and cross-carrier base of freinds and indsutry contacts.

We don't make decisions based on what we'd like to think. We make decisions by doing research ahead of time and thinking things through.

Some people confuse this with loyalty to FedEx. That would be a mistake. Diane and I stay because, for us, it is the best game in town. If there was a better place, we'd be there. But since FedEx Custom Critcial happens to be, for us, the best game in town, we also happen to be enthusiastic service providers sporting the brand on our uniforms.

That is not to say our carrier of choice is the best choice for everyone. I am not saying that at all. There is no such thing as the best carrier. There is only the carrier that is best for you.

FECC is "one" of many good carriers in this pot of expedite companies. Each has their own way of operating and tend to change over time. Either the shoe continues to fit comfortably or it comes time to try a new pair, so we did and are doing much better in our first five months than we ever did in our DR-unit or our T/T during our five year hitch with them.

It does not matter what kind of shoe you may have on, if you are not willing to go where your carrier wants you to go and do what your carrier wants you to do, it's not about the shoe, it's about the driver. Your problems with FedEx increased by an order of magnitude when you bought your huge-sleeper, long-wheelbase tractor. The fact is, your truck was simply not suited for FedEx Custom Critical work. Your DR-unit was. Your ER-unit was not.

Yes, carriers change. So do driver memories of them and actions they took and did not take in the past. Let's be careful to keep the facts straight, shall we?

To be fair to new readers, you should tell the whole story. Yes, you are doing better where you are now (taking you at your word), but that is due at least in part to the fact that you did not fully develop yourself as a fully-credentialled ER-unit driver. You never fully embraced the ER-unit opportunity and thus never exposed yourself to its full income potential.

It may be the case that you are doing better where you are now than ANY ER-unit driver may hope to do at FedEx Custom Critical. That's just fine. Again, there is no such thing as the best carrier. There is only the carrier that is best for you. My goodness. I would return to a desk job or janitorial work before doing the work you are now doing. Your best choice is no choice for me.

Dave, you can add my name to your list and yes my stress level is down 100% and then some!

That proves my point. There is no such thing as the best carrier. There is only the carrier that is best for you.

Dave, you can start another list if you wish and add my name to it; Contractors who believe, based on factual research, that carrier of choice is the best game not in town, but best for them.
 

Streakn1

Veteran Expediter
If I knew of a better game for the kind of trucking we want to do, lifestyle we live and money we want to make, I'd go to the better game.

Gary's reply:
Kinda limited on the places one can lease on a T-Val CR-Unit isn't it Phil. Unlike our tractor that has several Good options.

Phil said:
There is more to this than what I'd like to think and I take some umbrage at your "so many like to think" choice of words.

Gary's reply:
Oh, I forgot that you are sensitive to words. As I remember, you got upset when I made a harmless joke about your lot lizard. Phil, its the truth, there are many that "like to think" FECC is the best game out there for anyone.

Phil said:
We don't make decisions based on what we'd like to think. We make decisions by doing research ahead of time and thinking things through.

Gary's reply:
Our interest and research with our new carrier goes back more than six years Phil. Plus my wife has known the owner(s) and some of the employees office since she was in her teens A LOT of time to think things through don't you think.

Phil said:
FedEx Custom Critcial happens to be, for us, the best game in town, we also happen to be enthusiastic service providers sporting the brand on our uniforms.

Gary's reply:
I'm glad you enjoy your uniforms. We also look professional when at shippers/receivers.

Phil said:
That is not to say our carrier of choice is the best choice for everyone. I am not saying that at all. There is no such thing as the best carrier. There is only the carrier that is best for you.

Gary's reply:
Thanks for supporting my comment that FECC is one of many good carriers.

Phil said:
It does not matter what kind of shoe you may have on, if you are not willing to go where your carrier wants you to go and do what your carrier wants you to do, it's not about the shoe, it's about the driver.

Gary's reply:
Give it up Phil! Are you telling everyone on this forum that you would continue to wear a shoe that no longer fits or has become uncomfortable? I think not.

Phil said:
Your problems with FedEx increased by an order of magnitude when you bought your huge-sleeper, long-wheelbase tractor. The fact is, your truck was simply not suited for FedEx Custom Critical work. Your DR-unit was. Your ER-unit was not.

Gary's reply:
We were not the only "long wheelbase" tractor leased on to FECC and you know it so based on the above comment are you saying that they to are not suited for FECC work?

Phil said:
Yes, carriers change. So do driver memories of them and actions they took and did not take in the past. Let's be careful to keep the facts straight, shall we?

Gary's reply:
Are you accussing me of lying Phil?

Phil said:
that is due at least in part to the fact that you did not fully develop yourself as a fully-credentialled ER-unit driver. You never fully embraced the ER-unit opportunity and thus never exposed yourself to its full income potential.

Gary's reply:
Was that a requirement to lease on to FECC when we signed on? I don't think so. Yes, I chose not to as have others. Isnt that what a lot of surface expedite truck do?

Phil said:
I would return to a desk job or janitorial work before doing the work you are now doing. Your best choice is no choice for me.

Gary's reply:
I can't even imagine you doing what I do Phil, you might get dirty and sweaty. I would think a man of your backgroud would want to be more than a janitor. That amazes me!

Sounds like you are down grading what I do now in expediting,are you?

Phil, how many times do you get on this forum tooting your horn about how good you are doing with FECC and how you have made all of the right choices to be a successful expediter? Excuse me for sharing my new found success!
 
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jaminjim

Veteran Expediter
ATeam said:

That proves my point. There is no such thing as the best carrier. There is only the carrier that is best for you.

Dave, you can start another list if you wish and add my name to it; Contractors who believe, based on factual research, that carrier of choice is the best game not in town, but best for them.

That is something like if the shoe continues to fit, then it means you will not change carriers, just a different way to say the same thing you just said.

Phil don't take it so personally when some people say that the Fed ain't the best, it is only one of the best. It's biggest asset is that they ride on the back of the parent corporation.
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
The issue is not people sayig FedEx is not the best. The issue is an ex-contractor saying he is doing so much better in another opportunity when he never gave the FedEx ER-unit opportunity a fair chance. It is misleading to new readers to tell half the story. His decision to leave FedEx was good for him and the next contractor that could fully embrace and put that hard-to-get WG slot to better use. He did not leave a worse carrier for a better one. After changing trucks and finding himself in the wrong place, he moved to the carrier that is the best for him.

In expediting, it is common for contractors to leave one expedite carrier for another and do better at the second carrier. This is not carrier specific. It has to do with the contractor finding the better fit not for the carrier in question but the contractor in question. It is often the case that when a contractor leaves a carrier both the contractor and the carrier are better off.
 
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Dispatched

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I'm only saying that I do not believe rusty etrack alone is enough to cancel a truck.


And from what I was just informed of, this wasn't the case.

As some have mentioned "there's allot more to this story than what we are being told"
 

Bruno

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
US Marines
I happen to believe that FedEx Custom Critical is the best game in town, which is why I stay. If I knew of a better game for the kind of trucking we want to do, lifestyle we live and money we want to make, I'd go to the better game.

There is more to this than what I'd like to think and I take some umbrage at your "so many like to think" choice of words.

Our decision to join and stay with FedEx Custom Critical was and is made based on factual and ongoing research; not lunch counter research, not CB research, not Open Forum research, but factual and ongoing research -- the quality of which improves with our growing industry experience and cross-carrier base of freinds and indsutry contacts.

We don't make decisions based on what we'd like to think. We make decisions by doing research ahead of time and thinking things through.

Some people confuse this with loyalty to FedEx. That would be a mistake. Diane and I stay because, for us, it is the best game in town. If there was a better place, we'd be there. But since FedEx Custom Critcial happens to be, for us, the best game in town, we also happen to be enthusiastic service providers sporting the brand on our uniforms.

That is not to say our carrier of choice is the best choice for everyone. I am not saying that at all. There is no such thing as the best carrier. There is only the carrier that is best for you.



It does not matter what kind of shoe you may have on, if you are not willing to go where your carrier wants you to go and do what your carrier wants you to do, it's not about the shoe, it's about the driver. Your problems with FedEx increased by an order of magnitude when you bought your huge-sleeper, long-wheelbase tractor. The fact is, your truck was simply not suited for FedEx Custom Critical work. Your DR-unit was. Your ER-unit was not.

Yes, carriers change. So do driver memories of them and actions they took and did not take in the past. Let's be careful to keep the facts straight, shall we?

To be fair to new readers, you should tell the whole story. Yes, you are doing better where you are now (taking you at your word), but that is due at least in part to the fact that you did not fully develop yourself as a fully-credentialled ER-unit driver. You never fully embraced the ER-unit opportunity and thus never exposed yourself to its full income potential.

It may be the case that you are doing better where you are now than ANY ER-unit driver may hope to do at FedEx Custom Critical. That's just fine. Again, there is no such thing as the best carrier. There is only the carrier that is best for you. My goodness. I would return to a desk job or janitorial work before doing the work you are now doing. Your best choice is no choice for me.



That proves my point. There is no such thing as the best carrier. There is only the carrier that is best for you.

Dave, you can start another list if you wish and add my name to it; Contractors who believe, based on factual research, that carrier of choice is the best game not in town, but best for them.

Phil

I'm not picking on you, but as someone who writes for EO and Expedite Now. You making post like this makes you look bad. Your the Editor of EO, this kind of post is not something an Editor of a web site and a Expediters magazine should be posting. It makes EO look bad.
And if you was referring to me in this post, which I don't think you are. I did my research for almost two years before I went to Panther. Like Leo has said many time Phil all companies have warts. Some just may have more than other and some may have less. It just depends on the person.
 

Bruno

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
US Marines
And from what I was just informed of, this wasn't the case.

As some have mentioned "there's allot more to this story than what we are being told"

And what was you Informed? I got to hear this one.
 
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TeamCaffee

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Staff member
Owner/Operator
Phil

I'm not picking on you, but as someone who writes for EO and Expedite Now. You making post like this makes you look bad. Your the Editor of EO, this kind of post is not something an Editor of a web site and a Expediters magazine should be posting. It makes EO look bad.


I guess I do not get this and most of the posts in this thread.
 
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jaminjim

Veteran Expediter
Phil

I'm not picking on you, but as someone who writes for EO and Expedite Now. You making post like this makes you look bad. Your the Editor of EO, this kind of post is not something an Editor of a web site and a Expediters magazine should be posting. It makes EO look bad.

I guess I do not get this and most of the posts in this thread.

Don't try... it's more fun this way.
 

Dispatched

Not a Member
Maybe i've found "the cause"

Diagnostic Features:

Narcissistic personality disorder is a condition characterized by an inflated sense of self-importance, need for admiration, extreme self-involvement, and lack of empathy for others. Individuals with this disorder are usually arrogantly self-assured and confident. They expect to be noticed as superior. Many highly successful individuals might be considered narcissistic. However, this disorder is only diagnosed when these behaviors become persistent and very disabling or distressing.

Complications:

Vulnerability in self-esteem makes individuals with this disorder very sensitive to criticism or defeat. Although they may not show it outwardly, criticism may haunt these individuals these individuals and may leave them feeling humiliated, degraded, hollow, and empty. They may react with disdain, rage, or defiant counterattack. Their social life is often impaired due to problems derived from entitlement, the need for admiration, and the relative disregard for the sensitivities of others. Though their excessive ambition and confidence may lead to high achievement; performance may be disrupted due to intolerance of criticism or defeat.
 

Bruno

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
US Marines
Good reason and funny but that is not me. I don't know about you guys but I dislike people that think they are better than others. If I won the Mega Million for $100 million dollars it wouldn't change me as a person one bit. I'm not better than anyone in this business and I learn new things everyday. Thanks to all the GOOD people that share things on EO.
 

nightcreacher

Veteran Expediter
Think we need to change this thread to why I like where Im working.What ever your doing,if your happy with your situation,than thats great,but all this negativity isnt called for.I spent the day at FDCC today,learned many things that I had heard different answers to,not sure if all I heard was true,but it was sure different than Ive seen on here.Maybe someday the truth will be known,but for me,I'm where I'm very happy,now Bruno's where he's happy,and Gary's doing what he likes,so lets here about the good your company does,instead of the negatives,you know some people might have money trees growing in their back yards,and complain they have to pick the cash off the trees
 

Streakn1

Veteran Expediter
Phil, I'm not done with you yet! Fortunately I had to stop earlier to go load an engine. Now that I have a few minutes let me finish what I had started:

Phil said:
Yes, carriers change. So do driver memories of them and actions they took and did not take in the past. Let's be careful to keep the facts straight, shall we?

Gary's reply:
Our memories regarding FECC are quite clear to this day! Why don't you expose the facts that you seem to think have not been kept straight by me on this forum. You seem to be insinuating that I am a liar. That my friend is dangerous territory as you well know!

Phil said:
To be fair to new readers, you should tell the whole story.

Gary's reply:
And do you really want me to write a book?

Phil said:
Yes, you are doing better where you are now (taking you at your word), but that is due at least in part to the fact that you did not fully develop yourself as a fully-credentialled ER-unit driver. You never fully embraced the ER-unit opportunity and thus never exposed yourself to its full income potential.

Gary's reply:
So Phil, what you are saying is that as much as you knew how much I disliked certain things about what fully embracing the opportunity involved, in your mind thats what I should have done? Especially knowing how unhappy I would be in the process?

During my first four years with FECC this was not an issue. When it became one I left. Its as simple as that. What about all of the other WG teams we know that refuse to embrace the opportunity to this day? Should they leave FECC to so a more willing person can have a wasted WG space in your opinion?

OK, its out of my system now! On to happier things.
 
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Bruno

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
US Marines
Think we need to change this thread to why I like where Im working.What ever your doing,if your happy with your situation,than thats great,but all this negativity isnt called for.I spent the day at FDCC today,learned many things that I had heard different answers to,not sure if all I heard was true,but it was sure different than Ive seen on here.Maybe someday the truth will be known,but for me,I'm where I'm very happy,now Bruno's where he's happy,and Gary's doing what he likes,so lets here about the good your company does,instead of the negatives,you know some people might have money trees growing in their back yards,and complain they have to pick the cash off the trees

Steve your right. I got an E-mail from Virginia the CEO from FedEX Custom Critical today which meant alot to me. I have left FedEx and moved on, Panther is our new home as of now. FedEx was and still is a great company to work for and I don't regret working there. Everyone ask's all the time who is the best Expedite company to work for? Well I must say " its the one YOU as a Driver/Owner like the best " I can't tell you who this best is because I haven't worked for all of them. But I can tell you that when I was at FedEX Custom Critical they was the best for me at that point in time. Now I can say Panther is the best for me at this point and time. It's not about what's best for me. It's about what's best for your needs at the time.

FedEx is a great company over all. But Panther is a better company for me. Sometime's in life you get mad at things or people and it takes someone to say something to wake you up and think about things. Thanks Steve for doing that.
 
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