AMonger
Veteran Expediter
Nope, LDB.
Obama just won...
- Thread starter Tennesseahawk
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Nope, LDB.
There are both pros and cons to the Electoral College, some of them quite significant. Here's a pretty good rundown of the basics of the pros and cons as they are currently.
The Pros and Cons of the Electoral College - Sun-Times Politics
The Pros and Cons of the Electoral College - Sun-Times Politics
RLENT
Veteran Expediter
Hard to imagine, but nonetheless: thanks
Its important, bullets, powder, gun parts and bibles, but not necessarily in that order. I would throw in food, clothing , shelter, and of course your diabetic meds, heart meds, liver meds, a kidney dialysis unit and meds, and Iv bags, you know stuff you can't get when the medicine makers are shut down, hmm, yep the important stuff....
Their vote was about the IMAGES of the hurricaine they saw - Pictures and TV clips of an opportunistic POTUS and NJ Governor walking around in a disaster area for a photo op along with speeches about all the relief and goodies coming immediately to the storm's victims. Unfortunately, these same voters missed the pictures and segments of the actual victims telling their stories of no power, no food, no water, no gasoline and nowhere to take shelter. No pictures of the sewers running over into the streets or of the looters running rampant - but all that didn't get quite as much air time did it?? The visual image everyone is left with is Obama and Christie making promises to bring goodies to a disaster area, and calling it "leadership".
Excellent comment this morning on Dennis Prager regarding the libertarians and others who wasted their vote and threw it away as well as throwing away the nation. I can't remember it exactly but the gist of it was the libertarian voters position was "it doesn't matter if what we did was meaningless and threw the election, it felt good". It's just such a wonderful and special thing that people can vote their feelings instead of their brains.
Tennesseahawk
Veteran Expediter
The establishment Republicans indeed continue to be their own worst enemy, but they don't need the Libertarian party for anything. Libertarians constituted less than 1% of the popular vote in this election (see link below), and were not statistically significant in any of the battleground states Romney needed to win. Granted, the GOP would do well to more enthusiastically adopt some of the conservative principles espoused by the Libertarians rather then continue down the moderate road to failure.
Election 2012 - Live Presidential Election Results - CBS News
Election 2012 - Live Presidential Election Results - CBS News
cubansammich
Not a Member
Establishment Republicans? I suggest you research the Brontosaurus. You are headed to the same demise. Until you angry old men realize the enlightened Americans are moving toward the light and shunning the darkness, you will continue to lose.The proof in the pudding is the exasperation Karl Rove exhibited on Tuesday evening. So out of touch, so angry, so irrelevant.
Wise men search their souls continually seeking answers. Fools lash out. They place blame.They die angry.
Wise men search their souls continually seeking answers. Fools lash out. They place blame.They die angry.
I am not an establishment anything. I am an established anti-liberal. I support the best candidate through the primaries and I support the better candidate during the general election. Thankfully I am smart enough to make the best use of my vote in the primaries and not stupid enough to waste my vote in the general election to the detriment of the nation.
cubansammich
Not a Member
If you believe in the system you should accept that the people have spoken. Placing blame on those who exercised their right under the same system is an attack on the system itself. Your candidate was weak. You proved it yourself repeatedly. The best mantra you could muster was "vote mormon not moron"? Honestly, what did you expect? How many "anti liberal" candidates are there in politics today? Romney represents the best option against liberalism? How can you say that with a straight face? You have a fresh set of 4 years to find a reasonable, viable, anti liberal candidate. Why not spend your valuable time looking for a good one rather than whining about the past? How about Bobby Jindal? I can just see it now: "Vote Hindu, not doo doo"
I never once said Romney was the best or even near the best. Bobby Jindal would have been a better choice. Allen West would be a much better choice. People have to accept responsibility for their actions. If they don't want to be chastised for their abject stupidity then they shouldn't be so abjectly stupid.
cubansammich
Not a Member
Yeah, gasoline was up 12 cents a gallon after the morons re-elected that fool.
Tennesseahawk
Veteran Expediter
Let's see... Libertarians vote Libertarian, Constitution, Tax Payer, Republican, and Democrat. Frankly, neither you nor I know how many Libertarians voted for Obama. I know of one. And I'm sure a helluva lot of them did, just to pop the bird at the establishment.
I have no doubt that the number of Libertarians Romney and the establishment scared away, made up the difference in Ohio, Florida, and probably Colorado, if not others. There are more of us than you think.
France, Germany, Spain, Italy. Go back and read the Tabs I wrote. Back then who did I say would get President? I told you in 2008 it would be OBAMA and I also told you in 2102 He would get it again. Now I said it in 2008 why he would get it. I also told you why he would take 2012 as well.
Deny it all you want but its the truth.
Now to more Important things I wish everyone a Happy Veterns Day and don't forget U can Eat for free at the Petros and TA and these other places below just show your Military ID with your CDL. Or DD214 ect.
http://themilitarywallet.com/veterans-day-free-meals-and-discounts/
Have a nice Weekend ALL
Deny it all you want but its the truth.
Now to more Important things I wish everyone a Happy Veterns Day and don't forget U can Eat for free at the Petros and TA and these other places below just show your Military ID with your CDL. Or DD214 ect.
http://themilitarywallet.com/veterans-day-free-meals-and-discounts/
Have a nice Weekend ALL
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RLENT
Veteran Expediter
True - but it sure looks like they could use a few more people who could be correctly characterized as small "L" libertarians ... along with a few moderates.
That's a logical fallacy ... because it assumes that Johnson was on the ballot everywhere (apparently he wasn't) ... and that all libertarians (small "L") voted for him - a fact I can personally tell you did not occur.
Hilarious ...
Exactly what "conservative" principles do the Libertarians espouse that the GOP doesn't already embrace ?
(This ought to be good ...)
RLENT
Veteran Expediter
Allen West needs to be in the firm caress of a straightjacket and secured in a room that has ample rubber padding ... so that he can't hurt himself or anyone else ...
Libertarians only bumped up a little (very little) because the other candidates were that bad. Not anywhere close to even being competitive. Could that change? Not likely. Just don't have the candidates or cash to compete.