Obama "I'll act on my own"

LDB · Apr 23, 2012

Obama doesn't need the Congress or rules of law. He doesn't need to follow policy and procedure. He's better than that. He's more important than that. He'll just do whatever he wants and the heck with everything and everyone else.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/23/u...bama-bypass-congress.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

RLENT · Apr 23, 2012

LDB said:
Obama doesn't need the Congress or rules of law. He doesn't need to follow policy and procedure. He's better than that. He's more important than that. He'll just do whatever he wants and the heck with everything and everyone else.

Just like his predecessor .....

That premise that looked just peachy keen 8, 10, or 12 years ago ain't lookin' all that great now when the shoe is on the other foot is it ?

.... of course, this was all completely unforeseeable at the time ....

cableguymn · Apr 23, 2012

RLENT said:
Just like his predecessor .....

Oh do tell.. What did Bush do like Obama has done on his own?

Ragman · Apr 23, 2012

cableguymn said:
Oh do tell.. What did Bush do like Obama has done on his own?

White House defies Congress on Mexican trucks - Business - World business - msnbc.com

RLENT · Apr 23, 2012

cableguymn,

See there .... that didn't take too long now did it ? (Thanks Ragman !)

.... and that's just for starters ....

Ragman · Apr 23, 2012

RLENT said:
cableguymn,

See there .... that didn't take too long now did it ? (Thanks Ragman !)

.... and that's just for starters ....

Glad to help.

OldGuy · Apr 24, 2012

cableguymn said:
Oh do tell.. What did Bush do like Obama has done on his own?

We haven't had a president that believes in the constitution for years. It's not 'one side'...actually it is, both republican and democrats spew different lies but do the same thing once in office. They take the constitution and **** on it.

Bush's patriot act is quite ironic in its naming and its intent.

Tennesseahawk · Apr 24, 2012

OldGuy said:
We haven't had a president that believes in the constitution for years. It's not 'one side'...actually it is, both republican and democrats spew different lies but do the same thing once in office. They take the constitution and **** on it.

Bush's patriot act is quite ironic in its naming and its intent.

Not to derail the thread, but when your government can define certain words, like patriot and terrorist, then the government terrorists are patriots, and patriots willing to take on the government, are terrorists.

chefdennis · Apr 24, 2012

I really dont give a crap what bush, clinton, bush, GW, Lincoln or any of the others have done, barry is in office now and it all falls on his azz...you all are starting to sound like barry, "well its bushs fault...others did it too..."

I really can't say what the solution to all of mess in government is, but it needs to change and if it doesn't i'd be willing to bet that you will see "TSHTF".....

Turtle · Apr 24, 2012

chefdennis said:
I really dont give a crap what bush, clinton, bush, GW, Lincoln or any of the others have done, barry is in office now and it all falls on his azz...you all are starting to sound like barry, "well its bushs fault...others did it too..."

I think what some are saying, I know I am saying it, that those who complain about Obama doing these things, but failed to complain when Bush did the same things, are hypocritical in the extreme.

chefdennis · Apr 24, 2012

Turtle said:
I think what some are saying, I know I am saying it, that those who complain about Obama doing these things, but failed to complain when Bush did the same things, are hypocritical in the extreme.

And your point is??? People will turn a "blind eye" when something they may find wrong or evil is done my someone they support, its human nature and beyond that, its politics...So again, it still gets to the fact that "barry" is there now...no more or no less....he made all the promises, he brought all the grand "hope & change" he made all the grand platitudes..so hypocritical or not, it is what it is....

Oh...and usually, "it fits the "agenda"....

Turtle · Apr 24, 2012

chefdennis said:
And your point is???

My point is that people are hypocritical when it comes to this stuff, and about politics in particular. Scumbag hypocrites, the lot of them.

People will turn a "blind eye" when something they may find wrong or evil is done my someone they support, its human nature and beyond that, its politics...

Also known as hypocrisy.

So again, it still gets to the fact that "barry" is there now...no more or no less....he made all the promises, he brought all the grand "hope & change" he made all the grand platitudes..so hypocritical or not, it is what it is....

Obama has changed immensely. He's completely reversed his stance on transparency, Gitmo and a whole host of other things, and as a result, lots of things have changed.

Oh...and usually, "it fits the "agenda"....

Naturally.

chefdennis · Apr 24, 2012

Originally Posted by chefdennis

And your point is???

Turtle wrote:

My point is that people are hypocritical when it comes to this stuff, and about politics in particular. Scumbag hypocrites, the lot of them.

Chef dennis wrote:

Peopl

they will turn a "blind eye" when something they may find wrong or evil is done my someone they support, its human nature and beyond that, its politics...

Turtle wrote: