Oak Park, IL to ban eating, drinking behind the wheel?

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
The proposal is in an early stage. They say the next time the issue will be revisited would be early next year.

Pretty soon, the only way anyone will be able to drive is with hands at 10 and 2, no talking even with passengers, and no changing the radio station unless you bring the car to a stop and put it in park.

This $#!+'s got to stop.
 

cheri1122

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Driver
Agreed. The two biggest distractions ever aren't even under consideration: kids and flies.
If those are banned, we know they mean business. ;)
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
I guess they will have to put time locks on the bags passed out at fast food drive-through windows.
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
Here you go...and yes this is BS...


Oak Park might ban dining while driving

By Jim Jaworski and Ted Gregory | Chicago Tribune | Posted: Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:59 pm

Oak Park might ban dining while driving


OAK PARK — An arborist who travels throughout the Chicago area, Phil Fitch is in his car much of the work day, which means his automobile is often his dining car.

Fitch was chagrined Wednesday to learn that Oak Park, the community where he had stopped at a fast-food eatery for lunch, was considering a comprehensive crackdown on distracted drivers, banning everything from using a hand-held cell phone to grooming to eating while driving.

“I put 20,000 miles on my car every year,’’ said Fitch, 29, of Chicago. “I don’t really get a lunch break. I have to eat in my car every day.’’

He insisted his reaction time is perhaps better — even while enjoying a sandwich behind the wheel — than an older driver without distractions.

Research suggests distracted drivers are involved in 80 percent of collisions or near-crashes, and governments big and small increasingly are addressing the concern by restricting cell phone use and other negligent conduct behind the wheel.

Oak Park is the latest community to target the issue, joining a handful of other Chicago-area communities that have looked at prohibiting a variety of driving distractions, from tending to pets and eating to cell phone use.

The issue of distracted driving — especially what constitutes a distraction — continues to gain momentum nationally. In the last two years, for example, the number of states that ban texting while driving has more than tripled to 34, including Illinois. Ten states and the District of Columbia have outlawed hand-held cell phone use while driving.

And, six years ago, Chicago banned motorists from making cell calls without an earpiece, then added a prohibition on texting while driving. In 2009, the Chicago Transit Authority cracked down on bus and train operators who use or carry personal cell phones while working.

The campaign about the dangers of distracted driving has even started to target bicyclists. An ordinance proposed in Chicago would ticket riders found texting while pedaling.

A number of communities in the Chicago area, including Antioch, Barrington, Evanston, Highland Park and Kenilworth, have a distracted driving ordinance, most mandating hands-free cell phone devices while driving. At least one, Highland Park, allows police to cite a motorist for inattentive driving — which can include operating hand held computers, reading, grooming or eating — if that driver is pulled over for another violation.

And in 2006, Winnetka Police Chief Joseph DeLopez proposed a sweeping ordinance that would have banned the operation of a radio or game, tending to pets, grooming, and eating or drinking, along with talking on a phone. That proposal never passed, but in 2007 Winnetka banned using hand-held phones while driving.

If Oak Park ultimately passes an outright ban on eating while driving it might become one of the first in the nation to do so. Experts were unaware Wednesday of any community that already has such a law.

Oak Park Village Trustee Colette Lueck, who is initiating the push against distracted driving, said she would like to ban applying make-up or drinking, in addition to eating and cell phone use.

“To me, this is an issue of public safety,’’ she said. “This isn’t government overreach; this is the government protecting people. Distracted driving puts everyone on the road in danger.’’

Lueck raised the concept Monday at a village board meeting that focused on public safety after Police Chief Rick Tanksley said distracted driving was an issue. Board members briefly discussed a texting and cell phone use ban — which officials had considered earlier but never brought to the board — when Lueck took it a step further and said texting shouldn’t be the only ticket-worthy activity.

Even though texting while driving already is illegal in Illinois, Oak Park police said a local ordinance would be easier to enforce. Tickets could be adjudicated at village hall.

Other trustees agreed that the village should look at an ordinance that goes beyond texting, but board members said specific discussions on the issue won’t occur until early next year.

Trustee Ray Johnson, however, said he was more cautious in considering ticketing for eating or applying make-up. While he supports a texting ban, he said too many things can distract a driver — changing a CD, reaching for a drink or adjusting the volume on the radio — and designating a handful as illegal would be difficult.

“If you take it to the extreme, you could say having kids in the car is a distraction,’’ he said. “But what are you going to do? Some people have to have kids in the car.’’

The problem with outlawing driving distractions beyond cell phone use is determining which activities relate directly to car crashes, said Russ Rader, vice president for communications at the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety based in Arlington, Va.

“There’s no question that these things are distracting,’’ Rader said. “What we don’t know is how distracting they are compared to other things.’’ Cell phone use and crashes are relatively easy to track by checking cell phone records of drivers at the time of a collision, Rader said.

Verifying the link other distractions have to crashes is more complicated, he said. Still, some research suggests that one of the most common distractions in a car before it crashes is talking to a passenger, he said.

Car crashes continue to decrease in the U.S., Rader noted, even though cell phone use and other technologies — including sophisticated navigation and “info-tainment’’ systems — are becoming more prevalent. It remains unclear, he said, whether some recent benefit is off-setting the problem of distracted driving or whether the lower number of car crashes relates to “something else’’ that we haven’t been able to pinpoint.

“It points to an issue we’ve been raising for some time,’’ Rader said. “Distracted driving is much bigger than the cell phone.’’

On her way into a Wendy’s restaurant Haj Herbert said she used to eat while driving in college, but stopped when she almost lost control of her car. She considers consuming food while driving more dangerous than driving distractions that are already illegal.

“It’s actually worse than using a cell phone,’’ said Herbert of Oak Park. “That only takes one hand, or none if you are using a hands-free device. Some people are using both hands’’ while eating and driving.

At Oak Park’s Tasty Dog, Jim Borchers expressed his disagreement, while he stood outside his truck sipping a soda after lunch. Borchers of St. Charles said he often eats in his car.

“I’m sure it’s a slight distraction, but it’s not a serious distraction,’’ he said. “You can eat a sandwich and still pay attention to the road.’’
 

highway star

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Owner/Operator
Well... First we have extremely attractive people being attacked. As an extremely attractive person that's carried that burden his whole life, I'm extremely offended. Then we have clowns being stereotyped as being pedophiles. Clowns are scary enough without throwing in the "P" word.

Where are the Mods?!!? Someone, DO YOUR JOB!!!
 

OntarioVanMan

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Owner/Operator
Well... First we have extremely attractive people being attacked. As an extremely attractive person that's carried that burden his whole life, I'm extremely offended. Then we have clowns being stereotyped as being pedophiles. Clowns are scary enough without throwing in the "P" word.

Where are the Mods?!!? Someone, DO YOUR JOB!!!

At least no one threw out the C word.....Censorship....;)
 

highway star

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Yeah, well, I bet when someone goes after poutine or Labatts you'll be all over that.(Insert smilie that means someone is goofing in a very non-threatening way here.)
 

blackpup

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Some folks would like to eliminate all uncertainty from life. I not to sure they if they achieved their goal , that they would like the results.

jimmy
 

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
Some folks would like to eliminate all uncertainty from life. I not to sure they if they achieved their goal , that they would like the results.

jimmy


It would be akin to being bound hand-and-foot. It would involve being told when to eat, when to sleep, ven ze arbeit macht frei, "shleep now, go to verk now," but I suppose we'd be safe. It'd be like the movie Demolition Man, in which everything bad for them is illegal, including red meat, salt, profanity, and whatever "they" come up with tomorrow.

That's the scary thing about distracted driving laws; as we've seen so many times in the past, what looks like only a bad idea today will morph into an outrageous, freedom-destroying monstrosity next year when the control freaks start tinkering with it.
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
if this goes through, you can bet that sooner or later it will then be against the law to "eat behind the wheel" if the key is in the ignition, even if the vehicle is not running..just as it is to be drunk behind the wheel with the key in the ignition and the vehicle not running and or moving....:rolleyes:
 

purgoose10

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Before my folks died they lived in Westmont which is next to Oak Park. I spent the weekend with them several years ago and parked my (then) tractor in their driveway. Cops came in the middle of the night busted my drivers window out with a billy club and left me a parking ticket on my drivers seat. $100 ticket. It was January and about 0 outside that night. I think it made my dad mader than I. He went to see a judge that was a friend of his and the town paid for a new window. That's how it works in Chicago land.
 

cheri1122

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Driver
Well... First we have extremely attractive people being attacked. As an extremely attractive person that's carried that burden his whole life, I'm extremely offended. Then we have clowns being stereotyped as being pedophiles. Clowns are scary enough without throwing in the "P" word.

Where are the Mods?!!? Someone, DO YOUR JOB!!!

Shoot - I was hoping you wouldn't notice the sneaky attempt to eliminate some competition. lol. <shrugs> Oh well, there'll be another chance, on down the road & maybe you'll be distracted then. <<< Topical reference! :D
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
The more laws passed that cannot be policed the more laws will be ignored. Passing "feel good" laws benefit no one. Pass more laws, make more and more things illegal, you create more criminals. The rule of law then becomes irrelevent and ALL laws will likely be ignored. Too many laws, too many stupid laws, increases crime and lawlessness.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
The more laws passed that cannot be policed the more laws will be ignored. Passing "feel good" laws benefit no one. Pass more laws, make more and more things illegal, you create more criminals. The rule of law then becomes irrelevent and ALL laws will likely be ignored. Too many laws, too many stupid laws, increases crime and lawlessness.
 
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