NYC mayor, major CEO's are plantation owners.

Turtle

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I wonder how the die-hard conservatives who are against easing immigration policies, an easy path to legal status for all undocumented immigrants, and an easy path to citizenship, will be able to reconcile the fact that these companies and their CEO's are largely conservative conservatives, and since Rupert Murdoch is a major player in the Partnership for a New American Economy coalition they would have to boycott Fox News (gasp!).
 

aristotle

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I wonder how the die-hard conservatives who are against easing immigration policies, an easy path to legal status for all undocumented immigrants, and an easy path to citizenship, will be able to reconcile the fact that these companies and their CEO's are largely conservative conservatives, and since Rupert Murdoch is a major player in the Partnership for a New American Economy coalition they would have to boycott Fox News (gasp!).
NYC Mayor Bloomberg has attached himself to so many socially liberal ideas that no one who follows politics would consider him remotely conservative. To be somewhat fiscally conservative while at the same time being a social liberal means one isn't truly conservative at all. Real conservatives take a firm stand against abortion, gay marriage, gun control, etc...

Bloomberg is Arlen Specter with more money.
Bloomberg is Arianna Huffington with facial hair.
Bloomberg is Rosie O'Donnell without humor.

Bloomberg purchased the mayorship of NYC with his own money. Is that a good or bad thing? Rudy Giuliani wasn't much better on social issues except for his tough stand against crime. Jack Kemp, same way. Fiscally conservative but socially liberal makes these Northeastern RINO's totally unelectable for national office. Old NYC mayor Ed Koch seemed more conservative than any of these guys.

The Disney Co. with its full embrace of gay pride is anything but conservative. Please, who writes this stuff?
 

Tennesseahawk

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NYC Mayor Bloomberg has attached himself to so many socially liberal ideas that no one who follows politics would consider him remotely conservative. To be somewhat fiscally conservative while at the same time being a social liberal means one isn't truly conservative at all. Real conservatives take a firm stand against abortion, gay marriage, gun control, etc...

Really? REAL conservatives do that, or real Republicans? I thought real conservatives uphold the Constitution, whether they agree with it or not. Last time I checked, neither of those I emboldened are in the Constitution. Personally, I believe they're a states rights issue... something REAL Republicans tend to shy away from.

Real conservatives have one REAL issue... enforcing the limits of the Constitution upon government. They aren't interested in mamby-pamby issues of the day. The Constitution is the issue to last epochs!
 

layoutshooter

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The Constitution is what is important. The Federal government has NO legitimate business in peoples lives. Gay marriage and marriage in general is just frankly none of their dang gone business.
 

aristotle

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Really? REAL conservatives do that, or real Republicans? I thought real conservatives uphold the Constitution, whether they agree with it or not. Last time I checked, neither of those I emboldened are in the Constitution. Personally, I believe they're a states rights issue... something REAL Republicans tend to shy away from.

Real conservatives have one REAL issue... enforcing the limits of the Constitution upon government. They aren't interested in mamby-pamby issues of the day. The Constitution is the issue to last epochs!

At the time the Constitution was ratified social issues such as abortion and marriage between homosexuals were not anticipated.
 

layoutshooter

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At the time the Constitution was ratified social issues such as abortion and marriage between homosexuals were not anticipated.


No, they were not. The problem is when a government starts to dictate on social issues. Like sending the army after the Mormons. The government should run the government. The States have the right to regulate those other things ONLY within the confines of their own state borders. Once you start the path of this or that can marry the Feds are out of line. It is dangerous.
 

dabluzman1

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I have no problem welcoming new people from other countries to the USA.
I am proud we have a standard of living that is still desirable enough that someone would uproot themselves and their family to partake in our lifestyle.
THAT BEING SAID: I am 100% against giving benefits to anyone that are not available to the citizens of this country.
If someonewants to come here, assimilate into the existing culture, work and pay taxes and earn their benefits, I am 100% in their favor ( now dont get me started on welfare ).
I applaud Arizona. Nuff said.
A lot of our parents, grandparents or great great......came to this land seeking a new life. I am grateful they welcomed my grandparents who were escaping from WWI leaving their beloved Poland.
No one catered or coddled them. They fought for their existance seeking any type of job and succeeded.
I remember my Grandfather telling me how proud he was when he was taking his oath becomming an American citizen.
Was he proud of his Polish heritage, absolutely, but he was just as proud if not more so of his new American heritage.
I welcome and embrace all who would want to follow his footsteps and join this great country.
 

aristotle

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Liberals and conservatives cannot even agree on what the Constitution means pertaining to many, many issues. That's why we see 5-4 split decisions on the Supreme Court. You can read the Constitution yourself and arrive at your own conclusions. Yet, on a legal basis, the US Constitution means whatever 5 Supreme Court justices say it means on any given day. The Supreme Court is highly politicized and idealogical.

Hate to burst the bubble of so many: the US Constitution isn't the "be all, end all" for all human activity. It's a guiding framework for American law. When new social issues or controversies arise, lawmakers can turn to the amendment process for remedies.
 

dieseldiva

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I have no problem welcoming new people from other countries to the USA.
I am proud we have a standard of living that is still desirable enough that someone would uproot themselves and their family to partake in our lifestyle.
THAT BEING SAID: I am 100% against giving benefits to anyone that are not available to the citizens of this country.
If someonewants to come here, assimilate into the existing culture, work and pay taxes and earn their benefits, I am 100% in their favor ( now dont get me started on welfare ).
I applaud Arizona. Nuff said.
A lot of our parents, grandparents or great great......came to this land seeking a new life. I am grateful they welcomed my grandparents who were escaping from WWI leaving their beloved Poland.
No one catered or coddled them. They fought for their existance seeking any type of job and succeeded.
I remember my Grandfather telling me how proud he was when he was taking his oath becomming an American citizen.
Was he proud of his Polish heritage, absolutely, but he was just as proud if not more so of his new American heritage.
I welcome and embrace all who would want to follow his footsteps and join this great country.

God Bless your Grandparents and all the others of their time that came to this country in search of the American dream, and for the most part, found it.

Sadly, this is an example of what we're dealing with now......

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greg334

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So isn't the guy in the picture being picked up for suggesting that he will commit an act of terrorism?

Or is it that the latinos in our society are passive like Gandhi while others are violent?
 

chefdennis

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There has been ALOT of talk on other boards my people that have way more experience then the average PC user that that sigh was "Photo Shopped"

I have no problem with Legal immigrants at all...RR screwed up when he gave out that "blanket amnesty when he did as a "one time thing"....the people stopped it when bush and kennedy tried it back 06, but there is talk of barry doing it by "exc order"...he just continues to tell the other branches of our gov that he really has no need for then or our Constitution.....
 

layoutshooter

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I have no problem with LEGAL immigrants that come here, JOIN us, and CONTRIBUTE. The invaders should leave.
 

DaWhale

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he just continues to tell the other branches of our gov that he really has no need for then or our Constitution.....[/QUOTE]

That's a huge problem. Executive orders weren't invented by Obama. Like his predecessors and those who would like to replace him, no one wants to act to limit this usurpation of the Executive Branch's authority.
 

Tennesseahawk

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At the time the Constitution was ratified social issues such as abortion and marriage between homosexuals were not anticipated.

That's what amendments are for. If the states or Congress can't agree on them, guess what? No amendment.

And your comment on 5-4 split in the Supreme Court... that split exists because the conservatives live by the Constitution in their decisions... the libs just do what feels good.
 

greg334

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Executive orders are not a free pass. They can be overturned by the courts and have. IF Obama wants to have one, it also could be construed as a possible separation of powers issue because they are used to further define legislatation passed by congress, not redefine it.
 
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