November locations and much more
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Expediting is becoming more like women every day.
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But if a rate does seem unfair, I have no problem with someone talking to dispatch. What we have had WAY to much of lately is a people that want to negotiate every load. Some people are messing things up for everyone. We will have trucks want money for a 30 mile deadhead to pick up a full rate load for example. No one adjusts rates to the trucks DOWN when the rates are better than normal, so we expected to be treated fairly on the other side. So you will see us getting a bit tougher on this. But, we are doing it so that we can make sure that the ones that deserved to be adjusted get adjusted. I don't want dispatch to lose that flexibility. Like most things, it they are really going to work they have to be a two way street.
.83/mile all miles picking up on friday and delivering monday. $484 total pay is not worth turning the key on. The rate did get adjusted after a phone call. I did call the consignee and they will be open tomorrow, so I'll be able to get unloaded. But...none of that was in the original dispatch.
I take responsibility for not asking for details. I seldom ask what a load pays unless something in the pickup or delivery location info concerns me. I can't remember the last time I asked for an increase in percentage. I find that it is usually taken care of without asking.
I don't know if this load was an oversight (I understand that mistakes are made), or if it was bid cheap for whatever reason. What I do understand though is that I can get rates like that at any carrier and better at some. If we're going to preach about not taking cheap freight, then we don't need to be taking cheap freight.
I'm not bidding the loads, so I have two choices 1. Ask a dozen questions on each load and negotiate the rates when their too low 2. Trust dispatch to have my back and not book me on a load that pays cheap and ties my truck up all weekend. When loads like this happen, it makes it very tough to trust anyone.
I take responsibility for not asking for details. I seldom ask what a load pays unless something in the pickup or delivery location info concerns me. I can't remember the last time I asked for an increase in percentage. I find that it is usually taken care of without asking.
I don't know if this load was an oversight (I understand that mistakes are made), or if it was bid cheap for whatever reason. What I do understand though is that I can get rates like that at any carrier and better at some. If we're going to preach about not taking cheap freight, then we don't need to be taking cheap freight.
I'm not bidding the loads, so I have two choices 1. Ask a dozen questions on each load and negotiate the rates when their too low 2. Trust dispatch to have my back and not book me on a load that pays cheap and ties my truck up all weekend. When loads like this happen, it makes it very tough to trust anyone.
I think it happened after. I understand what Rocket is saying. We try hard not to take cheap freight. Problem is sometimes we have to take a cv load but use a sprinter. We try very hard to balance freight rates vs trucks sitting. Again, it goes back to overall average. Our average sprinter revenue was .046 cents per mile to the truck higher than Oct of last year (not including fsc).
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on my way to balmy Laredo for a Monday delivery....
Yes, the rate was adjusted up by 10% which still doesn't make it a good load....but after all, I'm not one of "the boys" so I really shouldn't expect much huh? It is my fault though, I should have asked more questions. Being able to get it off the truck tomorrow makes it a lot better. I don't like a cheap load, but I absolutely despise a cheap load that ties my truck up for an entire weekend. Obviously xiggi, you have the option of being happy with a load like that...and I'll be more than happy to refer them to you in the future.
Imagine this...A L1 dispatcher actually called me to confirm that I would be delivering in the morning. THEN, the same dispatcher advised me as to what city I should get "close" to as they are seeing a lot of weekend freight there. Imagine that! We could possibly have a break through here! I could possibly make money, the dispatcher could make money (I have no idea how they are paid) and LoadOne could make money. All because of a simple phone call with a little guidance (as opposed to being left in the dark and told not to call them because they are busy) WHAT a freaking concept!
I'm all better now and I apologize for saying what I feel needs to be said. It is kind of amazing to me though how much different some of the posts on here are vs the comments made in person. :thumbup:
I have run Loads at lower rates than i like. I have run loads at great rates i try not to mention either one on here. I have bad weeks and great weeks. We all have to play the averages. Just my feeling but i think we all need to count to ten sometimes before posting.
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LoL...
Delivered, and sitting #2 at the yard.
Tentative plans were to pick up 1 or both of my grand daughters in the morning but since I'm that high on the totem pole I think I'll hang out here overnight and see if anybody throws a handful of money at me
Me
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Just look at what's been said. It's not primarily about cheap freight, since we all know than not every load will be a home run. The issue is the failure to communicate anything unusual about a load when the load is given and accepted. "Unusual" being, among other things, an abnormally low rate or a delivery time that is not either straight through or when the consignee opens up the next morning.
The vast majority of our loads pay a certain ballpark rate, or higher. Anything substantially less than that normal standard qualifies as unusual.
The vast majority of our loads deliver straight through, or ASAP when the cons opens up the next morning. Anything that delivers substantially further out than that time frame qualifies as unusual.
Another one of my favorites is, there is a difference between picking up a load in Romulus and one picking up at the airport, even though the airport is located in Romulus. If the load picks up at air cargo at the airport, then dispatch should say "air cargo at the airport", not "Romulus". Same with "Hartsfield-Jackson" versus the more generic "Atlanta", or "Logan Airport" versus "Boston". Pick any city and and airport you like. There are plenty of loads picking up in a given city that requires little consideration in making a decision, but one picking up at air cargo is something else entirely. One could be a quick and easy two-hour run, the other could be a six-hour ordeal.
A load paying 83 cents a mile that picks up on Friday and delivers on Saturday is a lower-paying load than normal, but like you said, that's part of that two-way street that averages out. However, the same load that picks up on Friday but doesn't deliver to Monday becomes a substantially less paying load considering the time involved in committing the truck to that load. It's certainly a consideration that needs to be factored in, and it's one that cannot be factored in unless we know about it before the fact, rather than after we've committed to the load.
We certainly could spend a lot of time playing 20 Questions trying to discover anything unusual about the load, but it seems far more efficient for dispatch to just tell us up front about anything unusual or out of the ordinary about the load so that we know what we are getting ourselves into from the beginning. Otherwise, we feel like we've been suckered a little bit.
If I were offered a load paying 83 cents a mile that picked up on Friday and delivered on Monday, I'd probably take it (and even more probable if it delivered direct, or the next day). The load's gotta get covered, I don't want to put dispatch in the position of having to call the customer and back out of the load, the higher paying loads and the Layover Pay certainly makes up for many of the lower paying loads on the average on this two way street, so I don't have a problem with a load like that. But it would be a decision that I'd make knowing full well what I was in for, rather than a decision made based on engendered trust that burned me. It's very difficult to make an informed decision without the information necessary to make it.
You'll notice the use of "ALL MILES"....had the driver been 5 miles away instead of 100 miles away there'd not be an issue...someone failed to negotiate for the DH....admittedly because they were half asleep and screwed up and did NOT ask the right questions.....and then comes on here to make some kind of point?.....To show us he screwed up?....The NO option is always available....maybe make a note to self....any load offers when half asleep I will say no automatically....so this won't happen again....
Come on now....we all know this has been a tough economy all year...Load1 has been trying to hold the line against cheap freight.
so all you guys that think .90 is way too cheap need to wake up and smell the coffee......0.85- $1.00 is industry average, look around, we are spoiled here at Load 1....Reality check over and out...
Come on now....we all know this has been a tough economy all year...Load1 has been trying to hold the line against cheap freight.
so all you guys that think .90 is way too cheap need to wake up and smell the coffee......0.85- $1.00 is industry average, look around, we are spoiled here at Load 1....Reality check over and out...
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Good morning gang from Effingham J....
this will separate the men from the boys, 2 1/2 days to run 1400 miles....LMAO
this will separate the men from the boys, 2 1/2 days to run 1400 miles....LMAO
guido4475
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I'm not going to air my dis-satisfaction with the new setup on here, but things have definately changed.
guido4475
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Ok I see the point on information. But it is often hard to distinguish all this different things. What info is important to one driver is not to another. But, with the money we have spent on the reorganization I hope to see continued improvement in this area. With dispatchers that are primarily dispatching, it should continue to hone their skills and as well better learn the wants of the fleet.
On the rate side, it is frustrating. The economy has been tough. Yet I have seen our overall rate per mile excluding fsc go up for the fleet this year. This is great and this is good for everyone and by design of percentage pay the majority of it being the fleet. At the same time though we have been dealing with "let's make a deal" on more and more loads. Again I understand everyone wants to make the best decisions for their business. Where I struggle with it at times is I don't think people always looks at the other side of the team. What if I did the exact same thing for my business. I could take the extra high paying loads and broker them first. I could pay stop offs and mileage only on double loads. If I only thought about the one load and its profit versus the overall good and the big picture this is what I would do. But as we all know I try to always step back a little farther and look at an even bigger picture. When I do that, I would not consider doing this things. Again, with the changes we are continuing to improve what we are doing. Our managers are getting better tools to manage. Just yesterday we rolled out some new beta reports that we think out going to help us to better review and analyze our loads by vehicle on a daily basis. They should help us to see what loads fell below thresholds and determine why and if we are failing, it had a reason, or other reasons. Again, not every load is a home run. But I am 100% confident out fleet averages well over most of our competition on compensation and benefits in the big picture.
On the rate side, it is frustrating. The economy has been tough. Yet I have seen our overall rate per mile excluding fsc go up for the fleet this year. This is great and this is good for everyone and by design of percentage pay the majority of it being the fleet. At the same time though we have been dealing with "let's make a deal" on more and more loads. Again I understand everyone wants to make the best decisions for their business. Where I struggle with it at times is I don't think people always looks at the other side of the team. What if I did the exact same thing for my business. I could take the extra high paying loads and broker them first. I could pay stop offs and mileage only on double loads. If I only thought about the one load and its profit versus the overall good and the big picture this is what I would do. But as we all know I try to always step back a little farther and look at an even bigger picture. When I do that, I would not consider doing this things. Again, with the changes we are continuing to improve what we are doing. Our managers are getting better tools to manage. Just yesterday we rolled out some new beta reports that we think out going to help us to better review and analyze our loads by vehicle on a daily basis. They should help us to see what loads fell below thresholds and determine why and if we are failing, it had a reason, or other reasons. Again, not every load is a home run. But I am 100% confident out fleet averages well over most of our competition on compensation and benefits in the big picture.
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A REAL MAN would of been there by now.......lmao.... Mr.Alpha Male...
U r right. Back to the kitchen for me. lol
I guess that regional concept lasted a week, lol.