Non-Couple Teams

Flash

Seasoned Expediter
I was wondering what experiences people have had teaming with someone who is not their wife/husband/gf/bf.

I want to drive expedite, but I know how tough it can be being crammed into a truck with someone 24/7. I know people do it all the time without killing their co-driver, I just want to know if anyone has driven team with someone and come away with positive feedback.
 

darkunicorn

Seasoned Expediter
Yeah I have and its not all bad but its also not profitable either when you team you do not double the miles you drive maybe on a good week 1/3 more that’s not enough in my book to warrant teaming. Then there is the crammed in a little box syndrome I have teamed with life long friend and strangers nice thing about the strangers I don’t have to deal with them ever again J just kidding they are great people and still talk to one of them. But would not be stuck in a truck 24/7 with her even on a bet! She is doing fine as a solo now and still thanks me for teaching her the ropes think she found a better home after Con-Way is no more than I did but that’s another story altogether.
I’ll get a lot of argument on this I know but do the math you deadhead more as a team that’s unpaid miles only count paid miles as profit but need to count the unpaid miles as cost even if you don’t own the truck and your owner pays for the fuel etc. its costing you time you could be driving!
As a owner with a driver you have to pay it gets even worse because of the crammed in a box thingy, you deliver a load and thin wind up having to wait to get another your say 2500 miles to a good market and where you are does supposable a load a day you decide to wait for a load and a few days go by and no load they start crying you need to pay them to sit even though they know how the business works they are still going to try and get you to pay them to sit there. If it was one I wouldn’t be saying this but its not even my life time friend when forced to wait and then deadhead 550 miles to a load thought he should be compensated for 3 days waiting and then the long deadhead to the load we got!
If the money isn’t going to one house hold its not a good thing if you was doing double or better the mileage yeah it would be worth it but that’s not going to happen any one that tells you it does all year long is lying threw there teeth may get one or 2 months a year that work that way run run your tail off but the way its looking right now those days are gone any way its going to be so so months till the auto industry picks up again! and all the expedite company’s say they are not dependant on the auto industry for freight but that’s not all true either its true its not all the big 3 but guess what company’s like Collins and Ackman, TRW, Dana, Moog, etc are still auto freight period!

So that was the long answer the short one is if your not a couple team go solo you can still make a living and you’ll be happier in long run!

Hope didn’t wreck any ones hopes and dreams I just have too much time on my hands this week!

Alvin
Yupp still in upstate NY
 

terryandrene

Veteran Expediter
Safety & Compliance
US Coast Guard
We haven't experienced the situation you ask about, but we recently met two men in a straight truck who had partnered for several years. Their solution to their partnership was to go their separate ways when the truck was not on a run. They never eat together nor participate in any extracurricular activities while laying over...works for them to avoid the 24/7 blues
 

darkunicorn

Seasoned Expediter
Oh yeah forgot to give the good points sorry to of only gave my negative points.
Any way having company was great some one to share some of the sites and not eating alone every night in my opinion is a plus! The long time friend I spoke of and I have a lot in common and didn’t really clash but the money wasn’t enough was the only reason we didn’t continue to team. We did have fun but it don’t pay the bills he has a family at home and needed to make more $$$$. So just have to weigh the good and bad and go with your gut! And if inexperienced and get a chance to team with an experienced expediter might be worth it even if temporally teamed up! Get your feet wet kinda thing!

Hope I was of help!

Alvin
 

BigBusBob

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Regarding non-couple teams... there's pro's and con's.
Probably more cons -
though every situation is different,
it's still the same to some degree.

The main thing is you're not as lonely. The other thing is you do have somebody to talk with when the CB isn't lit up and/or if you're not into listenin' to the stereo system.

The main thing with teaming, and Everybody will agree with me....
is that there has to be a great deal of trust.

You can run solo and still have a ride-along, if you can find the right person that's willing to do that. That means the ride-along is not making an "income" so to speak, unless of course they're runnin' their own business of some kind and/or are contracted for writing or some other kind of work that they can complete while traveling with you.

The main thing with me is that I've teamed with people I didn't know prior to runnin' with them, and while most of them I've teamed with have remained good friends with - most of them I would not team with again. For the simple reason that differences come up thru the trips, you want to stop and the other does not. You want to eat, the other does not. You want to talk on the CB, but it causes the other person in the bunk to stay awake - not a good thing. You want to listen to the stereo but they'll stay awake.

Then there's the driving and trusting aspect of things... the curtain is closed, you're sleeping well, and all of a sudden you're rolled awake - either in the bed OR OUT OF THE BED ONTO THE FLOOR.
Where's the trust? While it may have been to avoid an accident, the trust was just compromised. How do you get back to sleep?

What happens if the rumble strips are waking you up?

Think of how you'll feel if you pull the curtain open to find your driving partner fighting to stay awake. That's when "Team Driving" really begins, You pull the person outa the seat and you both end up switching off for the rest of the nite every hour or every other hour... ya, that's alot of fun.

I'd rather team with somebody I know and can trust fully, than team with a complete stranger.

Ultimately, today, I drive solo.
Why?
Less money you say, why not team right?

My Response: Rocky Mountains, and Appalachian Mountains.
One had ice, one did not. Both times I woke up. At nite.

Once to find the driver falling asleep (on the west side of Denver).
The other time I woke up to find the driver speeding excessively thru a construction zone with uneven lanes - in an 18 wheeler.
I woke up thinkin' to myself
"Ya, this has got safe written all over it"

Do what you want, but I've found out I really enjoy sleeping in the same parking spot I went to sleep in. I've found out I really enjoy sleeping without worrying if my tires are gonna go off the road.
What happens if I lose power steering?
Are they gonna know how to react? What about a blown tire?
How about ice, hydroplanning, snow, area's with sharp curves.

if I'm driving and it's just me that is driving the rig,
I'm the only one to blame. I'm the only one to trust.
My actions effect my life -
where as if somebody else is driving...
their actions effect my life.

I want to stop, I stop. I want to run, I run. I'd rather have another rig hit me parked while I'm asleep then hit me while I'm asleep at 65 or 70 out on the interstate.

Do what you want, but teaming is about trust. Some can do it, some have done it and enjoy it. I've done it, and haven't enjoyed it all the time, so why risk it. I run solo.

Good Luck to you Driver,
Bob.
 

RichM

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Another problem is that the other driver may get a phone call when you are 1600 miles from his home and all of a sudden he needs to get there. Also someone has to be the lead driver ,make the decisions and the other guy has to live with them. H/W teams are great as the revenue and the family commitments are for both of you but teaming with a stranger is usually short lived.
 

dieselphreak2K

Expert Expediter
Well, I am in that situation. Jbird and I have been a team for about 3 months or so. Yes, I am running more miles, and making more than I was before. And yes, there are times I just wanna kill the guy.

Well, maybe not kill, but the worst part of it for me was that I had ran the truck solo before, and it was like an invasion of my personal space at first. Once he learned my system of organization, things improved. We marked out what storage areas he had, and what areas I had. The rest was community area, for things related to operating the buisness. (Of course, owning the truck, I got more space)

Trust is really the biggest issue. Jbird was 2 days out of driving school when I picked him up to take him to orientation. I didn't sleep a whole lot the first few runs. But I reminded myself that I have been driving for 5 years, and he had 5 days. I tried not to expect the world of him, and kind of roll with the punches. He still hasn't destroyed anything, and I feel now, that he wont. It took a long time to get used to sleeping while he was rolling, but the times that he woke me up for help, or because he needed me to run an hour while he caught a nap, actually made me feel better, as I realized that he knew his limits.

I've known him for 7 years, and that is the only way this could have ever worked. He has been with me through alot harder things than this. I trust him like I can trust no other. He was with me in some of the darkest times in my life. We've been best friends since high school.

If the person you team with is somebody you trust out of the truck it will be easier to trust him in the truck. If the other team member is a stranger to you, then you will have to find the perfect stranger. You pretty much have to share the same interests, likes and dislikes, as you can't hide from eachother. You'll know in the first month if it will work or not.

Sorry about the long-winded post, just telling my story.
 

fastman_1

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I've been Solo so long I can't ride with anyone else Driving feel Like I'm being Held Prisoner.








































Owner/Operator since 1979
Expediter since 1997
B Unit Semi Retired
Somedays are Diamonds and Somedays are Stones
Home is Wherever you Park.
 

Ladytrucker1950

Seasoned Expediter
I have teamed with 4 people of the opposite sex. As you can tell by my ID I am female. One co-driver had to be removed by the police and one was a very young kid that turned in to a dangerous hotdog supertrucker. One was the trainer I had and he was a terrific guy and we are still good friends. The last one was an O/O I teamed with for over 2 years. We are still best friends and if the opportunity arose I would do it again in a heartbeat. The one thing both people have to remember is to be considerate of your co-driver. Start and stop gently when they're sleeping. Keep music volume low. A driver with no sleep can make the nicest person crabby. To make the situation comfortable for both, unless you're both looking for a life partner, NEVER make inuendoes that are suggestive and don't flirt. Being in a truck with a good friend is a wonderful experience but don't push it beyond the limits of friendship.I guess I should state that I have been married to the same guy for 36 years and the man I teamed with is a 40 year old single guy. He is also my husbands friend as well as mine. Its a tough situation but not playing head games and taking care of each other will get you a long way. Hope you do well and find a lifetime friend like I have. Good luck
 
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