New Verizon Tiered Plans Oct 29

Turtle

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It won't affect current customers and current contracts much, especially smartphone users with the $30 unlimited data plan, and the same the option to downgrade to $15 for 150MB/month, with a $0.10/MB overage charge.

What's new is with the tablets. In addition to $20/1GB, $35/3GB, and $50/5GB plans, there will be a hefty $80/10GB option for the slate owners, all with overage charges of $10/1GB.

Additionally, MiFi and FiveSpot customers connecting via laptop will have to choose between $50/5GB and $80/8GB plans. Feature phone buyers can choose between a $2 "pay as you go" plan, $15/50MB, and $30 for unlimited data.

Current plans can be grandfathered in, as always.

Here's the report and the Q&A with Verizon.
Verizon's tiered data plans hitting October 28, smartphones still getting unlimited option? -- Engadget

Note that 4G pricing won't be out until 4G is launched.
 

dieseldiva

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Still lovin' the "grandfather" clause on the mifi. Don't think I can go lower on my droid, Hubs might be able to on his....he doesn't use his as much as I do but then he hasn't had it very long so who knows.....:cool:
 

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The 4G pricing should be interesting, especially since the way it works allows for far more data to be pushed through it. Not just faster data, but the capacity is leaps and bounds beyond 3G, so that really, things should be cheaper. Of course, they won't be. So it'll be interesting to see how it goes.

One thing I recently discovered is that you can transfer your "New Every Two" from one device to another. My USB modem is well past it's NE2 time, but until 4G comes out there's really no need in upgrading it because there's nothing new that is better than what I already have (USB727), other than the new ones operate on GSM networks globally. An upgrade would be free for what I already have essentially, and it's still working fine.

But my Droid won't be eligible for a NE2 for another 8 months. I can transfer the USB modem's NE2 to the Droid and get a Droid 2 or a Droid X right now if I want.

I'll wait for 4G handsets before I get another one, but I thought it was pretty kewl that you can do that now. The first 4G devices will likely be MiFi and USB modems, and then the smartphones.

Some people have dropped their USB Mobile Broadband lines and just tether the phone. I'm guessing that they don't max out the 5GB per month limit very often. With me, I tend to do at least 4GB on the USB and the tethered Droid every month.
 

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When you post an image wider than 640 pixels, it breaks the browser and the QUICK and QUOTE buttons go poof, making it difficult, and in some cases if it's wide enough, impossible to post a reply. Granted, it's a server-side issue that's not being dealt with, but unless and until they get it fixed, people need to not post picture that are so wide.

Just to note, it should come as no surprise that a hardware hotspot like the MiFi will work faster than a software hotspot like a Droid X (or the other ones that have hotspot capability built into them). Serious compromises have to be made to cram all that into a phone and still have it work as a phone.

The external USB modems (like the one I have) and the card slot (PCMCIA or ExpressCard) modems are the same as the external hardware hotspots, except that they're not multi-user. I get the same 1.5kbit downloads with it as the MiFi, and with the tethered Droid. I can't imagine why I'd want a multi-user hotspot with me here in the van alone, but for those with more than one in the truck an external hotspot would be the way to go.

Plus, using a phone-based hotspot is the surest way to rapidly deplete the battery. It'll kill a battery faster than a Bluetooth tether will.

Other than short, occasional uses for it by a bunch of people at lunch or something, maybe a trip in the car where the kids can have WiFi, but I don't see the benefit of it. I just can't get it where every stranger around you can use your Hotspot and you pay for their use of your data, but that's pretty much the advertising bent of phone-based hotspots. And it's apparently how it's being used. According to Verizon, Droid X users are eating up five times more bandwidth the other smartphones.
 

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Far as I know they are, but the security can be turned on or off on either. But I was talking more about the way it's being advertised. Like this one, for example (which is a way kewl commercial).
 

dieseldiva

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Yep...cool commercial....ALL of the droid commercials are cool (not by accident).

The mifi works well for us...besides our laptops, we both have ipod touches that we use wifi with once in a while and I just upgraded my Kindle to one that uses wifi only. We also canceled our internet at home so the mifi gets a good workout.

They're really jamming the market with Android devices and it looks like more coming for the holidays. I gave my droid 1 to my daughter about 2 months ago and upgraded to a droidx...I love the thing even more than the one before it. Jim also recently upgraded to the same so we're a two droid family now.

Have you tried Launcher Pro??
 

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We have cable Internet at home (Dish Network for TV and in the van), so when I'm there, which is like never, I use the WiFi at the house, which is 12Mbit snappy.


Have you tried Launcher Pro??
I've tied all the Home replacements and Launcher Pro is, at least for me, all that and a bag of chip. There are some popular ones that do some nifty "ohhh!" and "aaahhh" things, but Launcher Pro is fast and stable. I'm using the free version because there's nothing so far in the paid version that I'm lusting for.

Another favorite is Multicon Widget, which turns a 1x1 app icon into 4 separate launch icons.

Between the scrollable dock at the bottom of the screen on Launcher Pro, and Multicon, my screens can stay relatively uncluttered.
 

dieseldiva

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Ok...got the Multicon....wow, I'll have to take some time tomorrow and set this one up! Thanks, I'd not heard of it before.

The trial version of Launcher Pro worked fine on my first droid but was a little "catchy" on my X so I ponied up for the paid version and it works fine.

I like being able to "pimp" my droid...LOL....that's one of the things that sets it aside from the iphone. If you hang out on too many of the android sites where the youngins are, you can get all kind of crazy ideas!
 

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You probably know about these, but if not here ya go.

RingGuard
Prevents accidentally changing the ring volume, which I had done a few times and turned it down to the point where I didn't hear it ring.

App 2 SD (move apps to SD)
Easiest way I've seen to move apps back and forth from internal to the SD memory.

GPS Status & Toolbox
Lots of kewl stuff. It comes in handy for me for setting the satellite TV dish, but it's fun and informative when yer up in the mountains.

Note Everything
A To-Do List type of notepad. Tried 'em all. Tried Evernote, but like all of the all-in-one apps, it does a bunch of things, none of which it does well. I have the paid, Note Everything Pro, which gives voice, (finger)paint and text notes, on the Status Bar, and checklist notes that you can check off after you get it at the store. Also persistent lists for recurring stuff.

Handcent SMS
The text messaging app.

Bluetooth File Transfer
Really gnarly for quickly and easily transferring files to/from the phone/computer, especially pictures.

Quick Settings
Quick access to many of the settings. Not Earth-shattering, but it allows you to have total control over screen brightness among other things. Biggest thing is you can dim the screen one more level than the stock brightness will.

I also use the Dolphin Browser because it has a very good LastPass for Dolphin HD plugin that works the same as on the desktop. LastPass on the desktop is a free password manager and form filler that is hands down the best there is, easiest to use and most secure. It does automatic form filling of name, address, phone number and stuff, even credit cards, as well as auto filling in login/passwords, and will autofill and autologin to sites if you set it that way (most of the time, that's how you'd want it). It even works on uber secure sites like banks that don't allow logins/passwords to be saved and entered automatically. It'll create a very secure password for you that you don't have to (and couldn't even if you wanted to) remember, and plop it in there automatically whenever you need it.

The Lastpass Premium ads apps for smartphones, but costs $1 a month billed at $12 a year. The standard app for the Droid (and almost all smartphones) just sucks rocks because you have to use the Lastpass built-in Web browser, which also just sucks rocks. But the DolphinDH-specific plugin makes it gnarly and works seamlessly, just like the desktop version.

Droid or not, smartphone or not, everyone should be using Lastpass on their desktop/laptop. Seriously.
 

dieseldiva

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I just downloaded this Cloudlist the other day and haven't worked with it too much. I like that it syncs with my puter and also with Jim's phone......we'll see what more time with it brings.

I'm using Beautiful Widgets for all those individual settings that I want to find quick.

I'm also using Handcent and Dolphin and love them both. I have more browsers on there but I use Dolphin the most. I'm not impressed with Firefox yet but I do like Chrome and also the chrome to phone thingy.
 

AMonger

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I read an article 2 or 3 months ago that addresses how Americans pay through the nose for data. Apparently, data over here is exponentially more expensive than in Europe or South America. Wonder why. iirc, the comparison was made with only the private sector, though it's been a while and I don't remember specifics.
 

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I'm also using Beautiful Widgets. I use the stock "Power Control" widget for most of those, but I also have some Multicon icons loaded with Beautiful Widgets. The Beautiful Widgets Home and Smaller Home is what I got it for. :)

I read an article 2 or 3 months ago that addresses how Americans pay through the nose for data. Apparently, data over here is exponentially more expensive than in Europe or South America. Wonder why. iirc, the comparison was made with only the private sector, though it's been a while and I don't remember specifics.
Well, here's an article from Wired with pretty charts that are pretty alarming if you are in the US. (American iPad Users Pay Among the Highest for Data Worldwide) But when you get to the details of how it was all put together it paints a little different picture. The company who did the charts, Tableau Software out of Seattle, have their own dog in the fight, and more than anything this is a PR piece for an agenda, one of trying to get US carriers to lower the price of data plans. Good luck with that.

Since that article came out people all over the world have offered up in countless Web forums their two cents on what they are paying locally, and it's a very different picture indeed. The chart compares in some cases similar plans, but in most cases they are dissimilar plans. The fact is that most people worldwide use less than 2GB per month. If you compare similar plans then the average monthly fee in the US is similar to if not cheaper than data plans in other countries, with Australia’s “cheaper” plan being $89-$134, Canada’s $33, and Ireland’s $26, for example, all with higher initial purchase prices. Most plans under $25 cost more per gigabyte than the $25 US plan.

I have relatives in Germany, all of whom have data plans. The chart says O2 in Germany is $1.09 per GB, yet Germany has these three plans available: 200mb for 10 euro. 15 euro for 1 gig. And 25 euro for 5 gig. That's plus the 19% VAT they have over there, too. When it's converted and all is said and done, the 5GB plan in Germany isn't $1.09 per GB, but is $12.63, just about what we pay here.

The cost of 2GB with no commitment in the US is $25, or $12.50 a GB, which is where that number came from. Again, the chart is supposed to be comparing iPad plans, but when you start looking at th individual plans for data you can see just a snotload of problems.

In Japan, it's $50 per GB for a no-commit plan, and the cheapest plan with a commitment ends up being more than $8 per GB. Not exactly the rage-inducing $1.12 per GB the chart is indicating.

Even here, equivalent Broadband Data for Verizon at $59.99 per month is $11.99 per GB, and that's an expensive data plan. For a Droid with a $30 unlimited plan, assuming a maximum of 30GB like they did for the charts, that's a buck a GB. Apples to oranges somewhat, since the chart is for iPad plans, and if you got anywhere near 30GB on an unlimited data plan Verizon would be all over it, but the equivalent data plans around the world aren't that far off. Some are cheaper, but not all that many, and the five most expensive data plans are in Europe.

Another large factor is geography and where the people are. In Europe, because the countries are much smaller, the infrastructure demands are far less. Also, there are many dense cities in Europe where free WiFi is ubiquitous, so the demand for wireless data, and thus the infrastructure required to supply it, is diminished greatly. In some cases that means cheaper data, but in the case of France where socialism runs rampant and free markets do not exist, they have the highest there is.

So it's not as bad as many people make it out to be or think it is. Still, we pay about twice what we should for mobile broadband, but so do most everyone else.
 
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