New to the Game
- Thread starter jmtyson
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Live within your means. If you are not debt free, work toward becoming debt free, and from there, work on becoming financially free. Master your money so the lack of money does not master you.
purgoose10
Veteran Expediter
That's great advise. When I finally became debt free it made a hole heap of difference.
bluejaybee
Veteran Expediter
Amen and Amen to that.
If it's on line here, look for Volume #6 issue #2 of Expedite Now.
How to find a good fleet owner.
How to find a good fleet owner.
bluejaybee
Veteran Expediter
I commend you on your answer to the newbie. If we would answer all the newbies like this, they would have alot better feeling towards us. But most of them (newbies) get answers like, "Go read 2 or 3 years of posts", that can be as long as our last load. I would gladly refer newbies to the posts that contains subject matter of their question, if I know it off hand. Guess it is easier to have them peck and hunt for it.
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That's great if someone knows specifically where to find one thing, but most people would have to go and peck and hunt for it themselves in order to tell the newbie exactly where to find it, so why on earth shouldn't a newbie take that time himself? And in so doing, he will come across millions of other interesting things leading from one thing to another area. If someone is interested in becoming new to the game, is it really too much to expect him to do that for himself, and perhaps even enjoy it?
I'm flattered that you remember the piece. Here's the link. Note that the piece is not on the EO site but on a sister web site Expedite NOW. It also contains good information for newbies.
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bluejaybee
Veteran Expediter
And I just know that you saw the word "if" in my statement! I would gladly refer them, "if" I knew the post they were looking for. Certainly if they look for them, they will get more knowledge, but if I see someone requesting info on a post that I can find or have knowledge of, I will tell them where it is rather than tell them to go look for it. We were, or still are, newbies. It's not like I was trying to make it a requirement. All I was doing was complementing BillChaffey on what I thought was a kind gesture instead of the usual "go dig for yourself" answer.
tenntrucker
Expert Expediter
If a newbie is truely interested in making this their way of life, and not just looking for a paycheck then they should do a LOT of reading here. While I still think of myself a newbie, I read and followed this forum for several months before making this my lifestyle, and am very pleased with it. ATEAM your post here and at your personal site was very helpful to me, so thanks to you and the many other posting members here for their input.
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I understand that you said 'if', and that is why I also said, 'that is great IF someone knows specifically where...'. I agree that BillChaffey made a kind gesture, as did ATeam for providing the link to that specific article. I'm just saying it is also a kind gesture when members ask newbies to read back for 2 or 3 years, whether it seems so or not, since it is in their own best interests to do so. Newbies may not necessarily understand how much it would help them.
When you initially said you 'guessed it was easier to have them peck and hunt' for information, I got the impression that i) you felt members were withholding post locations even if they might know exactly where they were located (which in most cases, I would hazard a guess that they don't unless they pecked and hunted for it themselves), and ii) you thought it was a less than helpful answer to suggest that newbies search through the archives on their own. My apologies if my impression was incorrect.
It may seem like a less than friendly response to some, but it is actually great advice given with good intentions. Most topics are located in multiple locations and have been 'talked' about more than once. For many issues, obtaining a definitive answer in one single post, thread, or article is usually not possible. In those cases, it may even be a disservice to point a newbie to one single location. Something about giving a fish vs teaching how to fish.
Carriers prey on the newcomer's lack of knowledge and experience. Newbies seriously considering entering this field will come out way ahead by putting in several hours of reading before they leap and they will have much less chance of becoming a statistic instead of a successful expediter. It isn't as simple as it seems on the surface.
When you initially said you 'guessed it was easier to have them peck and hunt' for information, I got the impression that i) you felt members were withholding post locations even if they might know exactly where they were located (which in most cases, I would hazard a guess that they don't unless they pecked and hunted for it themselves), and ii) you thought it was a less than helpful answer to suggest that newbies search through the archives on their own. My apologies if my impression was incorrect.
It may seem like a less than friendly response to some, but it is actually great advice given with good intentions. Most topics are located in multiple locations and have been 'talked' about more than once. For many issues, obtaining a definitive answer in one single post, thread, or article is usually not possible. In those cases, it may even be a disservice to point a newbie to one single location. Something about giving a fish vs teaching how to fish.
Carriers prey on the newcomer's lack of knowledge and experience. Newbies seriously considering entering this field will come out way ahead by putting in several hours of reading before they leap and they will have much less chance of becoming a statistic instead of a successful expediter. It isn't as simple as it seems on the surface.
bluejaybee
Veteran Expediter
I understand where you are coming from and it isn't that I don't agree that looking for certain answers will lead to learning more knowledge. When I read BillChaffey's reply, it was just sorta different than the usual "read back 2 or 3 years". I merely wanted him to know that I, for one, thought it was a refreshing and different approach to answering the question of a newbie. We are on the same page here.
Thanks for all of the advice. I have been driving a straight truck for Panther for about 2 weeks now and it's OK, but I hate sitting. My owner won't let me make a move without his OK, so I do a lot sitting and waiting for him to get to me, but other than that I love it.
greg334
Veteran Expediter
So you may be an employee of his ....