ChanceMaster
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From thetrucker.com :
http://www.thetrucker.com/News/Stor...kingCongressmenquestioncommonsenseofrule.aspx
http://www.thetrucker.com/News/Stor...kingCongressmenquestioncommonsenseofrule.aspx
New HOS rules still being fought !
- Thread starter ChanceMaster
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“The HOS rule limits the use of the ‘34-hour restart’ to once a week [and] thus limits a driver’s work week to an average of 70 hours in seven days, compared to the current rule, which allows up to approximately 82 hours when the restart is used more than once in a seven-day period,” Ferro testified.
OK, so which is safer, a driver that works 82 hours in seven days with 64 hours of rest taken in two separate resets of 34 hours each, or a driver who works 70 hours with 34 hours of rest taken in one reset, when both drivers get at least 10 hours of sleeper or off duty time before working the next day's shift?
Farro likes to talk about the 82 hours worked but conveniently leaves out the 64 hours rest.
OK, so which is safer, a driver that works 82 hours in seven days with 64 hours of rest taken in two separate resets of 34 hours each, or a driver who works 70 hours with 34 hours of rest taken in one reset, when both drivers get at least 10 hours of sleeper or off duty time before working the next day's shift?
Farro likes to talk about the 82 hours worked but conveniently leaves out the 64 hours rest.
Seems to me that the rule should be, 14-hour on-duty clock starts when you go on-duty, and within those 14 hours you cannot drive more than 11 hours, and after the 14 hours are up you must take at least a 10 hour break before going on-duty again. End of rule.
None of this x-hours in x-days crap, no restarts, no mandatory breaks. The previous 7 days wouldn't matter, the only things that would matter are the previous 10, 11 and 14 hours. And really, just the previous 24 hours is all that matters. What you did 3, 5, 7 or 8 days ago is irrelevant as long as you had 10 hours before coming back on duty every time you came back on duty.
That's a rule even a van driver could understand.
None of this x-hours in x-days crap, no restarts, no mandatory breaks. The previous 7 days wouldn't matter, the only things that would matter are the previous 10, 11 and 14 hours. And really, just the previous 24 hours is all that matters. What you did 3, 5, 7 or 8 days ago is irrelevant as long as you had 10 hours before coming back on duty every time you came back on duty.
That's a rule even a van driver could understand.
TruckingSurv
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cubansammich
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Are they still fighting the new rules?
I like it but it will never happen.
98 hours on duty a week.
77 hours driving a week.
Way too many hours for the safety advocates.
I was just about to mention that. "Six days shall you work, on the seventh day you shall rest".
I think some would go 24/7/365 if they could get away with it.
I'm going to stand down from these HOS fights for a bit. Since I'm under 10K and will stay that way for a spell this doesn't concern me directly-- at the moment-- anyway.
I will say that what I'm seeing in this makes me kinda glad we in the vanning sector don't have this fight. I get fuel when I need it, usually I'll combine two or three reasons for stopping into one, get rest when I need it and get under way when I wake-- no waiting for the clock to run out--. I have a suspicion that HOS actually makes you more tired just from the hassle than we get from driving. The idea of only one reset being allowed-- in an industry where you may sit for three days at odd times-- shows me that I personally don't want that headache. The half-hour rest doesn't bother me so much, by the time 8 hours of driving have gone by I need some kind of break anyway.
I will say that what I'm seeing in this makes me kinda glad we in the vanning sector don't have this fight. I get fuel when I need it, usually I'll combine two or three reasons for stopping into one, get rest when I need it and get under way when I wake-- no waiting for the clock to run out--. I have a suspicion that HOS actually makes you more tired just from the hassle than we get from driving. The idea of only one reset being allowed-- in an industry where you may sit for three days at odd times-- shows me that I personally don't want that headache. The half-hour rest doesn't bother me so much, by the time 8 hours of driving have gone by I need some kind of break anyway.