New fuel program in Panther

alborada

Seasoned Expediter
I just find that Panter have a some NEW program for a FS. If some body have info can you shere with us? I need to find out how is work.
 

alborada

Seasoned Expediter
Thank's you are all ways to help I know that you are jentalment . This is new and it is start or just to begine ? It is good or................. What is your opinion about this program if you have info ?
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
I couldn't tell you much about it other than it is a optional flat rate program if you choose that program.
 

alborada

Seasoned Expediter
Yes thay told me today about this because thay offer me a good load about the n=mill over a 1000 mil from Canada but the FS was only 0.12 cen it is nothing for Expedaidet and specialy today the barel was $107 this is nothing for a FS and thay tell me about this flat rate , but not so more unfo .Thank you for a info he name of the person he know more about this program
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
That would be a strange one. I wouldn't start a truck for a .12 cent FSC.
That doesn't sound right. Or if it was, I would find my own load.
 

alborada

Seasoned Expediter
That was the offer today at 4 pm form Missisague going to Oklahona it was onlu 0.12 cent we ask for more no only $100 this only and we said NO to this is a BIG truck it is not a russian - Zaporozec ... carzy, crazy I know and at night thay have this load becuse every one refused and no one want this crab........... I am very disapoinetd from all this loads .
 

DreamTeam44

Seasoned Expediter
We were told you can go on a flat rate for all loads or stay with the per load FSC, right now the flat fuel surcharge is competetive with most carriers, I think they said it was 41.5 cents.
Most TT drivers we have spoken with said most loads they accept are 57 cents to 75 cents......this is an interesting development wondering how it might pertain to their sales department securing loads in the future. One reason we are contemplating the cat is the higher FSC on most loads we have heard about...

whadduyknow
whadduUknow
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
That was the offer today at 4 pm form Missisague going to Oklahona it was onlu 0.12 cent we ask for more no only $100 this only and we said NO to this is a BIG truck it is not a russian - Zaporozec ... carzy, crazy I know and at night thay have this load becuse every one refused and no one want this crab........... I am very disapoinetd from all this loads .


If everyone else refused this load, that should have been your first clue.
 

alborada

Seasoned Expediter
But this is rediculous 0.12 going out from Canada to Oklahonma and the dispatch said to my housband becuse it is a LH over 1000 mil the FS it is only 0.12 c this is stupid exuses and whn thay said the customer don't want pay any more - then very sipmale don't provide the service to this customer let thay find the other carrier????????????? I don't kmow but I have a poblem from the forst day with this companu and we tary the best but I never hurt such a FS on my life better said no FS that this offer...........
 

alborada

Seasoned Expediter
Probably yes becuse hay tell me at 8:16 pm that no one wnat this load ...........and this is not supprising me because this is the stupid offer and thay put - driver refuse the load and are acceptence % will go dow for the rediculous FS . :eek:
 

terryandrene

Veteran Expediter
Safety & Compliance
US Coast Guard
Most TT drivers we have spoken with said most loads they accept are 57 cents to 75 cents

Based on the Government standard, and today's average diesel fuel cost of $3.81 for a 6 MPG truck, a reasonable FSC would be 43.5 cnets per loaded mile. It seems unreasonable to me that customers would consitently pay 57 cents to 75 cents per tariff mile. That would mean a driver would get reimbursed $3.42 to $4.50 per gallon used. That would be great for us but it's just not a reasonable expectation.
 

alborada

Seasoned Expediter
Dear my sweet couple I like your advices are always and I ask from the dispatche 0.40 cent and thay said NO .......... only $100 exTRA - THEN DEAL OFF........i AM VERY HAPPY TO HAVE ANSWER FROM YOU ALL LIKE YOU VERY MUCH ,BOTH .
 

terryandrene

Veteran Expediter
Safety & Compliance
US Coast Guard
40 cents seems reasonable. Based on last weeks average fuel costs, our carrier pays .4080 cents per mile for all authorized deadhead and loaded T/T miles, except on the west coast, the FSC is .4170
 

alborada

Seasoned Expediter
this was my demand 0.40 ct and thay refused then we refuse the load and this was the final , but no one take this load.
 

fastrod

Expert Expediter
OOIDA has a article on how to set up a fuel surcharge. According to there chart a fuel price of $3.81 per gallon would bring a 53 cpm fuel surcharge. This is a formula that is used by a carrier when they charge a customer, the formula that is used by a carrier to set the fsc for there contractors is different.
 

DreamTeam44

Seasoned Expediter
Based on the Government standard, and today's average diesel fuel cost of $3.81 for a 6 MPG truck, a reasonable FSC would be 43.5 cnets per loaded mile. It seems unreasonable to me that customers would consitently pay 57 cents to 75 cents per tariff mile. That would mean a driver would get reimbursed $3.42 to $4.50 per gallon used. That would be great for us but it's just not a reasonable expectation.


I've made calls to several carriers, swift, schneider, england, werner as a customer curious about fees charged to haul my freight in hopes of finding some answers, I was told between 43.5 to 64 cents a miles is being asked for a fuel surcharge from the customer with an additional 1.50 to 2.22 per mile.

The Werner Enterprises sales dude apologized that it was high asking 57 cents, but nontheless that what their rate to a customer is....I know for a fact that the Werner O/O's are getting 41.5 during this same time frame....guess that's why companies advertise 100% FSC? And those large carriers don't give a rats azz about retaining or helping their O/O's as they seem to be keeping about 1/3 of the FSC.
Wouldn't ya think the customer might think that 100% of that fee they are paying is going to the truck that is delivering their freight?
Wonder if they are told that the company makes profit on FSC?

Whadduyknow
Whadduknow
 

jaminjim

Veteran Expediter
The number they quoted you will have very little to do with what they charge there normal customers.
 

Scuba

Veteran Expediter
I am investigating this new program now myself once I get the info ill run 2 data bases to see which way is the best way for me. By the way I have had loads paying fsc of .71 per mile over a year ago my top fsc was $1.68 per mile on 130 miles got to love that one just wish it was a 1000 mile load lol. But then there has been .10 fsc load offers also my adv is around .50 fsc. Which is why I don’t do the big 3 anymore they think you should be happy to pay to pull their loads and I wont pull a load where I cant make a profit. Maybe I am greedy but I won’t haul for fuel costs. It’s the people that do that, that keep rates low on backhauls. Brokers are thieves plain and simple I read a recent report that Landstar makes an adv of $1600.00 per load that’s the brokerage not the trucks. It’s the trucks that bear the brunt of the costs to move the freight. Got to love the reports saying costs at the store are up because of higher transportation costs. Well have any of you called any brokers lately you are lucky if you get much over $1.10 per mile for a 45000 lbs load. They pocket the money that should be going to us because we let them. We let them because we take those loads if we let freight sit on the dock those thieves would have to pay us more. Sorry I got off topic but I hate brokers they are what keeps whale crap off of the bottom of the ocean.
 
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