Neccessary technology

smitty555

Seasoned Expediter
What are some of the essentials that an expedite driver needs to be productive? I have been trying to find the best GPS program. Is there one that can be down loaded into a lap top so it would give better visibility? Is something like Yahoo maps suficent?
Also, any info on Comdata or the other financial dealings while on the road would help.
Thanks, Smitty
 

LDB

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There have been a number of good discussion on gps units. A search on gps should lead you to them. Also, you should read back about a year in the general and newbies forums as part of your research. That doesn't mean read every word, just go back through and whenever a thread title catches your attention read the thread. The tech shop forum is another good one since you're interested in technology items. By doing that you'll find answers to many questions you don't yet know you have. Good luck.
 

TeamCaffee

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Each carrier deals with ComData differently and some do not use ComData such as FedEx Custom Critical. Before you get out here on the road set up your passwords and online banking. The more you can get set up at home and testing before you leave the better off you are. When on the road it can get very frustrating trying to deal with local problems.

A satellite radio is also a life saver out here.
 

ATeam

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The one piece of essential technology is a cell phone; one with service that provides strong nationwide coverage.

GPS and a laptop are not essential but they provide much to make life on the road easier, safer and more profitable. For mobile access to the internet (essential if you have a laptop in the truck), air cards from cell phone companies are better than Wi-Fi because of their much greater range and ability to use them when driving down the road (one team driver driving, the other on the computer).

Online mapping programs like Google Maps (best of the bunch) are helpful but not always available. You must be able to get online to use them and signals are not always available. A good GPS device (your laptop or a stand alone device) will provide consistent access to detailed local maps.
 

nightcreacher

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I have streets and trips d/l into my lap top.I find this very useful,when i'm going some where I cant find on the Atlas.So far it hasnt taken me under any low bridges,but has put me in residential areas.Bought it at Office Max for about 100 bucks.
 
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Turtle

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Those who advocate the use of a laptop and something like Streets and Trips are almost certainly those those have never used a standalone GPS unit, like a Garmin. I used to be one of those people. A laptop GPS unit works, and it works rather well, but it pales in comparison, not even close, to a standalone unit. For team drivers, maybe not to much, but for solo drivers a laptop GPS is insanely unsafe. The very time you need it most, immediately before and during tricky or multiple turns, complicated interchanges, even simple turns in heavy traffic, is the very time you cannot afford to have your eyes averted from the road.

I used a laptop with GPS for years, then finally gave in and got a standalone unit. I continue to kick myself to this day for using a laptop as a GPS for all that time.
I was ignorance personified.
 

ATeam

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Having used Garmin for a while now, Turtle, if you were to buy a new stand alone GPS unit again, would it be Garmin or something else?
 

smitty555

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Garmin seems to be the one that is the most popular, is there a specific model that is better than others? Also, did I read something about areas of concern for hazmat, are there certain areas that are not permitted travel through with hazmat materials?
Thanks, Smitty
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Also, did I read something about areas of concern for hazmat, are there certain areas that are not permitted travel through with hazmat materials?
Thanks, Smitty

Yes there are a lot of restricted routes for hazmat loads but your company should be able to help you with the route.

I think there is only one mapping software that has a hazmat routing feature but I may be wrong.
 

Turtle

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Having used Garmin for a while now, Turtle, if you were to buy a new stand alone GPS unit again, would it be Garmin or something else?

It would be a Garmin, absolutely. Having said that, I wouldn't refuse a free Tom Tom, either. Lowrance is tops on the boat, both for navigation and sounding. Magellan always seems to be a day late and a dollar short, and with inaccurate maps (which is a bit of a puzzle, since they use the same mapping data that Garmin and Tom Tom use).

Garmin has the North American market, Tom Tom has the European market. Both are trying to chip away at each other's stronghold. Each has different sets of bells and whistles, and different interfaces. Side by side in the same dollar range, flip a coin. Garmin vs Tom Tom is like Quicken vs MS Money.

I prefer the Garmin because I'm most familiar with it, know it's quirks. The Tom Tom has it's quirks, just different quirks. Both brands use essentially the same maps and the same data, each do slightly different things with routing. It's the routing quirks that make the Garmin best for me and expediting. If you get a Tom Tom or a Garmin, you won't regret buying either, and then end up wishing you'd bought the other.


As for which unit I'd get, whether it's a $300 or a $1000 unit, they all run the same map data, so the routing and maps are gonna be the same (except, the low end units don't come with Canadian maps, and on those units the US mapping and routing is slightly different. Even if you don't go to Canada, get a unit that comes with the entire North America maps.) The difference is the bells and whistles.

One essential bell, for my money, is the real-time traffic. It's not 100% accurate, but it's definitely worth having. It will automatically re-route you around travel delays, if possible, such as accidents, accumulating traffic in construction, closed exits, etc. It will sometimes inform you of a 3 minute delay up ahead, and when you get there, there's no delay, cause it's been cleaned up or cleared out. Or they'll sometimes be a delat that it doesn't know about.

But, I was in Minneapolis a week after that bridge fell, and closed the Interstate, and a GPS unit without the Traffic would have routed me right across that bridge. There ya go. Slam dunk. Real-Time Traffic, never leave home without it.

I have the Garmin Street Pilot c550. It's got the new SiRF II (all units newer than a year or two have this) chip so it doesn't lose the satellite signal in the mountains and in the canyons, both natural and man-made (lemme tell ya, it's kind of important to not lose that signal when you're in downtown Chicago, or Manhattan). It's got the Real-Time Traffic, and it's an MP3 player. It's got Bluetooth so I can make hands-free calls. Loads the phonebook from the phone into the unit.

In addition, phone numbers that are listed with the POI's (Points of Interest) can be dialed at the press of a button (on the screen). That's kinda handy for restaurants (Is there truck parking nearby?), motels (Do you have a pool?), wrecker service (Hep me!).

The new Garmin Nuvi units come with some impressive bells and whistles, not the least of which is the "Where am I" feature, which tells you the closest intersection, closest police, fire, fuel and other landmarks. Could be important in a breakdown or other emergency situation. The speech recognition in the top of the line Nuvi 880 is impressive, to say the least. Say a command, the 880 does it. The new units also have MP3 players, most have FM transmitters so you can hear music (and audio books from the internal audio book player) and directions via your vehicle speakers, jpg viewer, lots of nifty features. Many of the new ones display the speed limits for the road you are on.

One neat one is that many of the units remember where you parked (Nuvi 700 series and up). The Nuvi's are small, about the size of an iPod, and are made to be portable. You can use it to navigate while walking to places in unfamiliar territory, like the dense shops in and around Boston Harbor, and the Nuvi will remember where you parked. Great for crowded shopping malls, sports stadiums, etc. A must-have for the average blond.

The important bells and whistles for me are text-to-speech so that you hear the directions, complete with road names, delivered to you in a natural language voice, real-time traffic, Bluetooth. I like the speech recognition, but so far all of the Nuvi 800 series units that come with that do not come with integrated real-time traffic - it's an option.

If I were to get one today, it would be either the Nuvi 660 (no Where am I? or Where did I park? tho) or the Nuvi 770. But that 880 looks really good, even without having the traffic as being already integrated. These are not cheap units. I wouldn't even consider something under the 600 series, but then again, any unit that has the complete pre-loaded North American maps will get you to where you wanna go. Which one's right for you depends on which bells and whistles you want. Some are more important than others.
 

48ST8s

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We use MS Streets & Trips on our laptop and have never had a problem with it. I like to print out a map of the Shipper and Cons locations ahead of time so we know exactly where we are going. You can follow the streets along and know when your turn is coming up. It has worked for us.

We now also have Sprint Navigation on one of our cell phones. Have only used it a couple of times and it lead us to exactly where we needed to go.
 

dieseldiva

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We now also have Sprint Navigation on one of our cell phones. Have only used it a couple of times and it lead us to exactly where we needed to go.

I was wondering about that. We have it with Verizon but we've never had to use it. Verizon has a one time fee or a monthly unlimited fee, is Sprint the same?
 

piper1

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Hey Turtle,

Did you have a laptop mount (like a RAM) or did you leave it on the passenger seat or something else?

I'm trying to get my head around having a 15 inch screen vs a 4 inch (or so) screen.

Curious...........:confused:
 

butterfly610

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We use a Tom Tom, and sometimes it loads kind of slow. Besides that, I pretty much love it. One thing I like is after it plans your route, you can read it as text. I usually then compare it to the company's directions to make sure I'm going the same route they said to. Then I follow the GPS for locals. Whoever is not driving at the time, always checks the map to make sure it's not a restricted route or low clearance location before we get to the town we're headed to. Can you browse as text with a Garmin?
 

Turtle

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What does anyone have to say about CoPilot?

Overpriced for what you get. They use their own mapping data and routing (PC Miler), but it's still not as accurate as the data used by Garmin, Tom Tom, Mapquest, DeLorme, Google, everyone else.

CoPilot does have HAZMAT routing and truck-specific routes for height, weight and length, so in many instances for trucks it's better. Except, you gotta deal with a laptop. CoPilot works great, if you've got a co-pilot.

Hey Turtle,
Did you have a laptop mount (like a RAM) or did you leave it on the passenger seat or something else?

I'm trying to get my head around having a 15 inch screen vs a 4 inch (or so) screen.

I have a desk-thing that is where the passenger seat used to be. Used the laptop on there, as well as mounted with a RAM Mount-type mount. Doesn't matter where or how it's mounted, it requires too much attention at the exact moments when you can least afford to give it.

My biggest initial concern was going from that wide laptop screen (mine was 17") to that teeny tiny little screen wannabe. Turned out to be a non-issue, totally. If you think about it, all that stuff you're looking at, the only things you're really looking at is where you are, and what your next turn is, and how far away the next turn is. On the larger screen, 95% of the information presented is superfluous, useless, distracting. Everything you need to know is presented on the 4" screen, an you can take it all in with a single glance. The Garmin can't really be used as an Atlas, like Street and Trips and the others for a laptop can, to get a good overview of things, but that's why I have Streets and Trip installed on the laptop.


We use a Tom Tom, and sometimes it loads kind of slow. Besides that, I pretty much love it. One thing I like is after it plans your route, you can read it as text. I usually then compare it to the company's directions to make sure I'm going the same route they said to. Then I follow the GPS for locals. Whoever is not driving at the time, always checks the map to make sure it's not a restricted route or low clearance location before we get to the town we're headed to. Can you browse as text with a Garmin?

Yes. You can have it show the text, which is broken down by turns and how many miles between now and that turn, and you can tap any of them and it will bring up the map of that turn, which includes miles and time to that turn. The Tom Toms and Garmins within similar price ranges, operate very similarly, but I think all of them let you browse the turns by text.
 
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cheri1122

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Beside the fact that the Garmin eliminates all the extra clutter that you don't need to see, it's great advantage is that it's dash mounted - you won't need to change your entire focus, as you would when switching from laptop to windshield. That micro-second it takes to refocus on the road, could make a huge difference! Although I keep the volume muted, some folks like to hear the directions out loud, so they don't need to take their eyes off the road at all.
 
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48ST8s

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dieseldiva,

Sprint is pretty much the same as Verizon. You can pay $2.99 for one day use or $9.99 for unlimited. One of my friends uses Verizons navigation and she likes it. It will reroute you automatically if you need to take a detour, ect.
 

ATeam

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What does anyone have to say about CoPilot?

Not much good at this moment in time, though I have said good things about CoPilot in the past.

Today, we had a pickup in downtown Baltimore. CoPilot would route us pretty much on any street that we selected. But when we got there, truck weight restrictions were everywhere. CoPilot did us more harm than good in Baltimore.

We completed the pickup and got in and out of the city OK, but my faith in CoPilot declined a bit today.
 
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