Neanderthals cooked and ate vegetables

EnglishLady

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BBC News Dec 27

Neanderthals cooked and ate plants and vegetables, a new study of Neanderthal remains reveals.

Researchers in the US have found grains of cooked plant material in their teeth.

The study is the first to confirm that the Neanderthal diet was not confined to meat and was more sophisticated than previously thought.

The research has been published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

The popular image of Neanderthals as great meat eaters is one that has up until now been backed by some circumstantial evidence. Chemical analysis of their bones suggested they ate little or no vegetables.

This perceived reliance on meat had been put forward by some as one of the reasons these humans become extinct as large animals such as mammoths declined due to an Ice Age.

But a new analysis of Neanderthal remains from across the world has found direct evidence that contradicts the chemical studies. Researchers found fossilised grains of vegetable material in their teeth and some of it was cooked.

Although pollen grains have been found before on Neanderthal sites and some in hearths, it is only now there is clear evidence that plant food was actually eaten by these people

Professor Alison Brooks, from George Washington University, told BBC News: "We have found pollen grains in Neanderthal sites before but you never know whether they were eating the plant or sleeping on them or what.

"But here we have a case where a little bit of the plant is in the mouth so we know that the Neanderthals were consuming the food."

One question raised by the study is why the chemical studies on Neanderthal bones have been wide of the mark. According to Professor Brooks, the tests were measuring proteins levels, which the researchers assumed came from meat.

"We've tended to assume that if you have a very high value for protein in the diet that must come from meat. But... it's possible that some of the protein in their diet was coming from plants," she said.

This study is the latest to suggest that, far from being brutish savages, Neanderthals were more like us than we previously thought
 

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That story is a bit goofy. Of course early man ate vegetables AND meat. Mankind is a omnivore. Most likely always was. Early man were hunter/GATHERERS. You don't "gather" meat, you "gather" berries, fruits and grains. Early man's diet most likely had little difference to ours today, without preservatives and plastic wrap packaging. They ate what they could find. It would have been more natural than store bought food is today. Wild.
 

Ragman

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This study is the latest to suggest that, far from being brutish savages, Neanderthals were more like us than we previously thought

They needed to do a study to find this out? They should have asked my wife! She calls me a neanderthal all the time. :eek:
 

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They needed to do a study to find this out? They should have asked my wife! She calls me a neanderthal all the time. :eek:


Yeah!! What he said!! Besides, if they did NOT eat vegetables how could they make venison stew? :confused:
 

EnglishLady

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You are welcome but I will say .......

Sue won't eat bugs :eek:

•Also eating insects. Eating insects goes back to before the Paleolithic era. The high protein and nutrition that they provide would have been needed for us to have developed into such brainy creatures. The best book on this: Man Eating Bugs: The Art and Science of Eating Insects
 

LDB

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Vegetarian: noun - dating to Paleolithic era - meaning poor hunter
 

Ragman

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Eating insects goes back to before the Paleolithic era. The high protein and nutrition that they provide would have been needed for us to have developed into such brainy creatures. The best book on this: Man Eating Bugs: The Art and Science of Eating Insects

Must taste like chicken. :p
 

layoutshooter

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I can't find a smilie to cover what I feel like right now ;)

LOL!!! HEY, your from England. Did you know that English fishermen keep their maggots between their lip and gum, like snuff, to keep them active in cold weather? I could not bring my self to do that. I found that a shirt pocket worked as well.
 

EnglishLady

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LOL!!! HEY, your from England. Did you know that English fishermen keep their maggots between their lip and gum, like snuff, to keep them active in cold weather? I could not bring my self to do that. I found that a shirt pocket worked as well.

I have spent YEARS trying to forget that - thanks for the reminder :(

:p
 

EnglishLady

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Glad to be of service!! :p

I was with the St John ambulance Brigade for many years (same as Red Cross) and one time I had to go help this guy who was fishing from the pier and thats when it happened ....
he spoke :eek:

throwing up in front of your patient is a big no no y'know

:p
 

Ragman

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LOL!!! HEY, your from England. Did you know that English fishermen keep their maggots between their lip and gum, like snuff, to keep them active in cold weather? I could not bring my self to do that. I found that a shirt pocket worked as well.

Remind me never to go fishing in england. :eek:
 

layoutshooter

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I was with the St John ambulance Brigade for many years (same as Red Cross) and one time I had to go help this guy who was fishing from the pier and thats when it happened ....
he spoke :eek:

throwing up in front of your patient is a big no no y'know

:p


That is BEYOND funny!! My wife and I ran with a volunteer ambulance crew in Pennsylvania and in South Carolina. She was also a Red Cross Safety/CPR/First aid instructor, both as a volunteer and pro for years. I can honest say that neither of us ever threw up in front of a patient. That is priceless!!!
 

EnglishLady

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That is BEYOND funny!! My wife and I ran with a volunteer ambulance crew in Pennsylvania and in South Carolina. She was also a Red Cross Safety/CPR/First aid instructor, both as a volunteer and pro for years. I can honest say that neither of us ever threw up in front of a patient. That is priceless!!!


But you should have seen these wriggling maggots OMG ....
s'cuse me back in a mo ........
 
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