Mr. President Reagan
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Ronnie Regan after he beat Jim Carter for President signed a Bill Creating Cooperate America The cover of the Book Sounds so Good! To good to Be what one would think it is. The above is nothing more than false sense of Reality that Ronnie said in his wonderfull speaches before he got elected President and latter that was cut and pasted with it to dits a President of now.
Here read on then decide
What happend to the small time Farmers in the mid 80s?
They were run out by big Cooperations Hog Confinements ect.
At the Sale yards for Hogs and Cattle it went like this don't got a hundred Head to sell sorry cant help ya cant buyem. That there helped put the small time farmer outa business.
You need not ask what I think, read between the lines above its written.
Increase Taxes NO Way I think we all Pay Enough. The Chuckel Heads in Washington DC got the Country into this mess let those College Educated Cow Pies figure a way out.
You can't in way Borrow your self outa Debt.
How ever you can buy a Company Chop it up and Sell it off for more than what u payed for it.
Example RG Steel LLC Down buy Baltamore MD. IT was bought 8 months latter Thousands laid off and then its being Choped Up and sold off for all the Copper wire & such.
Their is more in raw materials to be sold then the company was purchased for.
So skyraider and Tennesseahawk You like the above, Ya Ronnie made some great speeches but look at the whole picture.
I dont see many small time farmer around anymore. Thats just one and oh yes Tell me About RG Steel In Baltamore MD.
I Read the Book Cover to Cover. I don't vote for a Party I vote for the man who represents the working class American.
For the People by the People.
Here read on then decide
What happend to the small time Farmers in the mid 80s?
They were run out by big Cooperations Hog Confinements ect.
At the Sale yards for Hogs and Cattle it went like this don't got a hundred Head to sell sorry cant help ya cant buyem. That there helped put the small time farmer outa business.
You need not ask what I think, read between the lines above its written.
Increase Taxes NO Way I think we all Pay Enough. The Chuckel Heads in Washington DC got the Country into this mess let those College Educated Cow Pies figure a way out.
You can't in way Borrow your self outa Debt.
How ever you can buy a Company Chop it up and Sell it off for more than what u payed for it.
Example RG Steel LLC Down buy Baltamore MD. IT was bought 8 months latter Thousands laid off and then its being Choped Up and sold off for all the Copper wire & such.
Their is more in raw materials to be sold then the company was purchased for.
So skyraider and Tennesseahawk You like the above, Ya Ronnie made some great speeches but look at the whole picture.
I dont see many small time farmer around anymore. Thats just one and oh yes Tell me About RG Steel In Baltamore MD.
I Read the Book Cover to Cover. I don't vote for a Party I vote for the man who represents the working class American.
For the People by the People.
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bobwg
Expert Expediter
Yes you can buy a company and if it s not worth keeping but worth more to chop up and sell then that what you do. it s called free enterprise and its legal
In the 70 and 80 I Knew of a farm that was Alive. In the mid 80s that same farm all but died. No more livestock. Because of Cooperate America.
Unless I put a confinement out on it that same farm will not live like it had once. That is Because of Cooperate America and that stupid Legislation signed.
Don't get me wrong I won't lie the farm is making money but only by the way of crops Corn and Beans. The Livestock that was once a staple is gone for now.
It was after I left the service that I admitted to my Dad after seening for myself what I was told is true, That I was WRONG and HE Was and IS RIGHT!!! Indeed Ronald Regan that great President I stood aside in the service and backed every word he said. Now became a reality check of the smoke and mirrors I fell hook line and sinker for. No it was not only him signing them but a congress and a Senate as well that pork Barreled the bills that made up Cooperate America in the Farm sector.
I have known some realy smart people in my time but they failed to use the Common Sense they were born with. Its ones attitude & Commensense not the appitude & degree that will determine ones Altitude.
Wizards use Smoke and mirrors to paint Fabulous Illusions.
Yup I admit it I fell hook line and Sinker for it. Back then.
A year ago this comming Thanksgiving another Fabulous Illusion was presented to me about the Great Oil Fields in North Dakota and Texas. The Wizard even went as far as to tell everyone including a High Up Brass official at the company Im driving for now that I would be departing to go there. It didn't happen.
Sounds to good to be true it usually is.
Smoke and Mirrors
No thanks Im sticking to my Common Sense.
Thank you!!! Welcome!!!
Unless I put a confinement out on it that same farm will not live like it had once. That is Because of Cooperate America and that stupid Legislation signed.
Don't get me wrong I won't lie the farm is making money but only by the way of crops Corn and Beans. The Livestock that was once a staple is gone for now.
It was after I left the service that I admitted to my Dad after seening for myself what I was told is true, That I was WRONG and HE Was and IS RIGHT!!! Indeed Ronald Regan that great President I stood aside in the service and backed every word he said. Now became a reality check of the smoke and mirrors I fell hook line and sinker for. No it was not only him signing them but a congress and a Senate as well that pork Barreled the bills that made up Cooperate America in the Farm sector.
I have known some realy smart people in my time but they failed to use the Common Sense they were born with. Its ones attitude & Commensense not the appitude & degree that will determine ones Altitude.
Wizards use Smoke and mirrors to paint Fabulous Illusions.
Yup I admit it I fell hook line and Sinker for it. Back then.
A year ago this comming Thanksgiving another Fabulous Illusion was presented to me about the Great Oil Fields in North Dakota and Texas. The Wizard even went as far as to tell everyone including a High Up Brass official at the company Im driving for now that I would be departing to go there. It didn't happen.
Sounds to good to be true it usually is.
Smoke and Mirrors
No thanks Im sticking to my Common Sense.
Thank you!!! Welcome!!!
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Did not know the farms went down the tubes, but Im waiting on the other 10,000 members to jump in there too .
Richard M. Nixon, 1969-1974
Gerald R. Ford, 1974-1977
James E. (Jimmy) Carter , 1977-1981
Ronald W. Reagan, 1981-1989
George H.W. Bush, 1989-1993
William J. (Bill) Clinton, 1993-2001
http://www.livinghistoryfarm.org/farminginthe70s/money_02.html
I think it got complicated before Reagan. See 1973 ......
Richard M. Nixon, 1969-1974
Gerald R. Ford, 1974-1977
James E. (Jimmy) Carter , 1977-1981
Ronald W. Reagan, 1981-1989
George H.W. Bush, 1989-1993
William J. (Bill) Clinton, 1993-2001
http://www.livinghistoryfarm.org/farminginthe70s/money_02.html
I think it got complicated before Reagan. See 1973 ......
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bobwg
Expert Expediter
So where is your numbers/facts to prove no small farms are around or most small farms are gone??
At one time small farms made up the staple of the nation. When Cooperate Farm America came to be the small farms as we know it with live stock ceased to exist. That is because the New Rules of which favored Big Cooperate Confinements said you had to come to market of slauter with 100 head of hogs mininum or a hundred head of cattle mininum. Thus that being said the once 7 to 14 hogs every weekend of the 70s and Early 80 ceased to exist. This forced the small farmer out. Now there are alot of farms in Existance but they are cooperate farms. In other words they have the capability to turn over a 100 head of hogs or cattle at a time. Proof do your own research. I didnt believe it myself till I seen it. I was man enough to admit to my Dad like I said he was right and I was wrong.
I also told you that the Farm is all but dead as the main staple for it now is the crops of Corn and beans one year the corn the next year the Beans.
Yes the farm is alive in that sense but read what I said as far a live stock that wont happen till I put a Confinement out there.
Now for the powers to be who ever wins the Election they better be for the People of this Country and not for the their own personal Agendas or the stupid political Partisanship. That crap needs to be set aside and both sides need to work like I said for the common good of the People and this Country!!! Not for their own Agendas. Arguing about this wont change nothing and it only shows the same stuipd things that goes on in Washington. We can argue or demand all day long. I know what Ive seen and I know what is. To Change it back to what was can be done but Conglomerate's Like Tyson of which bought out IBP ect need to be set in line. Tyson's Buying of IBP is not what made the change to the small farm stock sector that was already set in motion. I can remember when IBP had a strike that lasted over 20 months and were bringing in Mexican Workers to do the job. That was in the late 70s and Early 80s.
Needles to say Tyson bought IPB but even after all the Years the Pork and Beef Boxes still say IBP.
Need we get into the Seed side of the farm business and what kind of a racket it's become: Monsanto Ring a bell for soybeans and Dekalb and Pioneer Seed corns for the Hybreds.
Talk about the dum law suites Monsanto had on the the farmers for the soybeans. Look it up and read about it yourself.
Like I said Cooperate America for Farming. It started in the 80s.
Enough said do your own Home work, Ive done mine and admitted I was wrong.
I also told you that the Farm is all but dead as the main staple for it now is the crops of Corn and beans one year the corn the next year the Beans.
Yes the farm is alive in that sense but read what I said as far a live stock that wont happen till I put a Confinement out there.
Now for the powers to be who ever wins the Election they better be for the People of this Country and not for the their own personal Agendas or the stupid political Partisanship. That crap needs to be set aside and both sides need to work like I said for the common good of the People and this Country!!! Not for their own Agendas. Arguing about this wont change nothing and it only shows the same stuipd things that goes on in Washington. We can argue or demand all day long. I know what Ive seen and I know what is. To Change it back to what was can be done but Conglomerate's Like Tyson of which bought out IBP ect need to be set in line. Tyson's Buying of IBP is not what made the change to the small farm stock sector that was already set in motion. I can remember when IBP had a strike that lasted over 20 months and were bringing in Mexican Workers to do the job. That was in the late 70s and Early 80s.
Needles to say Tyson bought IPB but even after all the Years the Pork and Beef Boxes still say IBP.
Need we get into the Seed side of the farm business and what kind of a racket it's become: Monsanto Ring a bell for soybeans and Dekalb and Pioneer Seed corns for the Hybreds.
Talk about the dum law suites Monsanto had on the the farmers for the soybeans. Look it up and read about it yourself.
Like I said Cooperate America for Farming. It started in the 80s.
Enough said do your own Home work, Ive done mine and admitted I was wrong.
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If your concern is the farm or farmers, better vote for Romney. Farmers are some of the first to feel the impact of a devalued dollar. Keep a president that is bent on spending and printing money, guess who gets hurt the quickest?
That dollar only has a value of .80 cents. That is why gas, food or utilities are higher.
The corporate farm in that environment will grow more rapidly because if the dollar has less value, profit has to be realized through volume. Guess where that leaves the small farmer?
That dollar only has a value of .80 cents. That is why gas, food or utilities are higher.
The corporate farm in that environment will grow more rapidly because if the dollar has less value, profit has to be realized through volume. Guess where that leaves the small farmer?
Government interference created the corporate farm. Socialists will finish them off. Part of their plan. Keep that 'death tax', it is designed to kill the family farm and is doing a GREAT job of it!
Very true. Obama is all for this tax while Romney said he would eliminate it. Democrats act that it is against big business but the family farm is who will get shafted with this tax. Most farmers aren't going to be able to pay it so they likely will get bought out by corporate farms.
Bring Willie and FarmAid back!
Willie is buddy buddy with a bunch of Marxists. You are who you hang with. Willie can go kiss a worm for all I care. We don't need "farmAid" we need the government OUT of farming and let the market take control.
This government, and all governments, are involved in farming because food is the ultimate weapon. Governments, and those fighting them, often use food as a weapon of control. This one is taking control of farming so it can do the same here.
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Tennesseahawk
Veteran Expediter
Nah... Santana was better at Woodstock.
cubansammich
Not a Member
They didn't go anywhere. FarmAid happens every year.
Willie is nothing but a dang gum commie. Just like his buddy, Obama. Instead of charity, farmers need FREEDOM! The government IS the cause of farmers problems.
Shame on him for raising.money for farmers, he should be hung!
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Farmers don't need charity from Marxists. They need LESS regulations. LESS price fixing by the government etc. My cousin was GOING to donate a steer to their church for an auction. The paperwork was overwhelming. The entire 'farm bill' scam is set up to insure that 'family farms' go out of business. The government want 'corporate farms' that can be controlled AND who donate millions to their campaigns.
The GOVERNMENT puts in "death taxes" which is designed to insure that family farms go away.
Food is a weapon. OUR government, and every other government, knows that. Control the food supply and you control everything. Charity shows are just a scam to make people 'feel good' while government stick it in their ears.
Willie hangs with Obama, Chavez and other Marxists. Can't be trusted. Charity just turns farmers into "Popcorn ducks". Just as welfare does for everyone else.
When it comes to private charity ones politics do not matter. To suggest his charity is no good because of his politics is silly. I am sure the farmers that farm Aid assisted would disagree with your stance.
The charity you disdain and government policies are two distinct things and your attempt to interm8nile them is senseless.
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Nope. Charity encourages dependence. That is why, for the most part, it is illegal to feed wild animals. It works the same for people. The more you do for them, the more dependent they become.
I know many farmers, some friends, some relatives. NONE of them want charity. To a man, or woman, all want freedom to farm as they please, set their own prices, and grow what they chose. They ALL say the same thing, government interference is the problem. Those who support the government assist in the control over their lives. Willie supports the Marxists that seek to control the food supply. He is a joke and it is VERY easy to see through.
NO human who is worth his/her'it's weight in salt wants charity. A MAN, using the PROPER English term, will ALWAYS choose to do it on His own. Anything else is nothing more than prostituting one's self.
True freedom is found ONLY in self reliance.
That may be true but lets not forget, that some farmers do have their hands out to accept money NOT to grow things. Actually.....quite a few. Have to look at ALL of the picture.
Probably should add that there are many that claim they are farms and they really are not. Battle in NJ with Springsteen and Bon Jovi as to whether they are farmers and deserve tax breaks.
Is it true, don't know?
http://www.redbankgreen.com/2011/02/fox-springteen-bon-jovi-are-farmers.html
Probably should add that there are many that claim they are farms and they really are not. Battle in NJ with Springsteen and Bon Jovi as to whether they are farmers and deserve tax breaks.
Is it true, don't know?
http://www.redbankgreen.com/2011/02/fox-springteen-bon-jovi-are-farmers.html
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