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dieseldiva

dieseldiva

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"Anti-social"....so that's what some of us are now......because some say what they mean and mean what they say....as opposed to breaking every post apart and attempting to hide one's venom between all the razzle dazzle of quotes and windy responses.....hmmm
 
cheri1122

cheri1122

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dieseldiva said:
"Anti-social"....so that's what some of us are now......
"Some of us" have been antisocial for some time, and the rest of us are just twigging to it.
because some say what they mean and mean what they say....
No, being blunt and being antisocial are not synonymous. Antisocial means not caring whether others suffer, because their feelings don't matter.
as opposed to breaking every post apart and attempting to hide one's venom
If that's directed at me, the only feelings I 'hide' are those that might embarrass folks who don't deserve that. If I think venom is deserved, I'll be up front with it.
 between all the razzle dazzle of quotes and windy responses.....hmmm
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Hmmmm indeed - whatever that means.
 
RLENT

RLENT

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DD,

Let me clear something up right from the git-go .... my comments about the psychopathic/sociopathic/anti-social were not at all written with you in mind - although I can perhaps see how you might have felt that they were (maybe in terms of the withholding/restraining oneself thing ?)

The above criteria would only be one of a number of personality traits used in evaluating whether a person deserved the label.

dieseldiva said:
"Anti-social".... so that's what some of us are now ......
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Now ?

Well, it's certainly true that there are some amongst the general population who are indeed anti-social ..... I wouldn't think that this would be a premise that you would be inclined to dispute .... since it is fairly self-evident to anyone above the state of being in a coma ....

Therefore, it logically follows from that, in any subset of the general population, there is a likelihood, or at least some possibility, that there may exist some amongst us who are indeed anti-social ...

So yes, that's what I meant: some of us (meaning the greater EO community, myself included) ... and BTW - it is not at all a label I use carelessly or lightly ....

dieseldiva said:
because some say what they mean and mean what they say ....
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NO, NO, NO !!!

That isn't my premise or reasoning at all .....

Another desperate attempt at framing the issue in terms of a strawman of one's own design .....

dieseldiva said:
as opposed to breaking every post apart and attempting to hide one's venom between all the razzle dazzle of quotes and windy responses.....hmmm
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Sorry, but I'm afraid you completely missed the point .....

In order to actually see, one first has to be willing to look ..... even when what one is ultimately going to view is, in fact, quite ugly ....
 
dieseldiva

dieseldiva

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It never ceases to amaze me that we can go from a simple post into a bunch of crap being thrown at each other. The man made a statement and maybe it would be best just to leave it at that.

Maybe I'm being too simplistic but I don't see why we need to get into all this analyzing and name calling. It is what it is and I don't see where trying to publicly humiliate someone will change that. I mean, come on, using the name "Barry" is racist?? Really??

It was a simple post with a wise cracking title, does that make me anti-social or racist because I wish he'd just sit down and shut up? Or because I admit to trying to refrain from adding to the fray I'm fair game to be called out for doing so? Really? Maybe we'd all be better off if more of us at least "tried" to refrain once in a while.
 
cheri1122

cheri1122

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dieseldiva said:
It never ceases to amaze me that we can go from a simple post into a bunch of crap being thrown at each other. The man made a statement and maybe it would be best just to leave it at that.
Read your sigline, and say that again, please.

Maybe I'm being too simplistic but I don't see why we need to get into all this analyzing and name calling. It is what it is and I don't see where trying to publicly humiliate someone will change that. I mean, come on, using the name "Barry" is racist?? Really??
I didn't say that - I call it disrespectful and extremely immature, myself.

It was a simple post with a wise cracking title, does that make me anti-social or racist because I wish he'd just sit down and shut up? Or because I admit to trying to refrain from adding to the fray I'm fair game to be called out for doing so? Really? Maybe we'd all be better off if more of us at least "tried" to refrain once in a while.
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In 2 posts after the original, you said you wouldn't want to see Obama really hurt - that's an adult attitude, and one I respect.
Yours is not the worldview I have a problem with, here.
 
cheri1122

cheri1122

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If you can put your sigline aside, then you don't believe it.
We're here to debate, comment, challenge, defend, and generally speak our minds. Which is what I'm doing.
There's a lot of antipathy towards Obama, most of it unremarked, [much of it courtesy of the Chef], but some comments just need to be highlighted, and the one to which I took exception is just such a comment.
I found it abhorrent that anyone would promote the suffering of another, and mean it. That's antisocial. Which, contrary to popular usage, doesn't mean 'unfriendly' - it means aberrant.

 
RLENT

RLENT

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dieseldiva said:
Are we here to debate issues or to try and "reform" other's attitudes....sig line aside.
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LOL ...... I think the whole point of debate is to try and reform other's attitudes ...... :D

The only other thing I can come up with right offhand, as far as anything else approaching a valid purpose for debate, is exercising the mind .... and maybe the jaw muscles and lungs ..... or in our case, the fingers ..... ;)
 
RLENT

RLENT

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dieseldiva said:
It never ceases to amaze me that we can go from a simple post into a bunch of crap being thrown at each other.
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It appears that such is the nature of politics ..... or maybe just human nature .....

dieseldiva said:
The man made a statement and maybe it would be best just to leave it at that.
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People yelling "Fire !" in a crowded theater are just "making a statement" too ... :cool:

dieseldiva said:
Maybe I'm being too simplistic but I don't see why we need to get into all this analyzing and name calling.
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Maybe ......

dieseldiva said:
It is what it is and I don't see where trying to publicly humiliate someone will change that.
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But what is it ?

dieseldiva said:
I mean, come on, using the name "Barry" is racist?? Really??
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Yeah ..... I'm not really sure where that's coming from exactly ..... but I'm with you on it ..... :D

dieseldiva said:
It was a simple post with a wise cracking title, does that make me anti-social or racist because I wish he'd just sit down and shut up?
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Not at all in my book ..... I wish most of 'em (pols, talking heads, etc.) would sit down and shut up just as a matter of general principle .... Obama included, of course .....

I just don't wish that any of them would be harmed, permanently injured or disabled ..... as a means to accomplish that end .....

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Or because I admit to trying to refrain from adding to the fray I'm fair game to be called out for doing so? Really?
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Sorry to disappoint - but that wasn't what actually happened as far as anything I wrote was concerned ..... like I said previously, it wasn't aimed at you ..... although after reading the entirety of what I wrote, I can see how you might think that it was .... sorry for creating the confusion.

dieseldiva said:
Maybe we'd all be better off if more of us at least "tried" to refrain once in a while.
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I would agree - actually refraining would have been appropriate at the point of the 2nd post in this thread ..... however the individual in question was actually incapable of it ...... in that instance - just couldn't contain himself - and you can see where things went from there ..... at least 50% of the posts in this thread would not exist, were it not for that one post.

BTW, I actually found your original posting of this thread humorous ;) (just to be clear: that's a good thing)
 
Turtle

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You know, if Obama just sat down and shut up, people would be bіtchin' 'bout "that lazy SOB just sits there an' don't speak up 'about nuthin'."
 
Freightdawg

Freightdawg

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cheri1122 said:
And I bet he was known as 'boy' to his grandmother, but does that make it ok to call him that now?
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This is from:
Barry Soetoro: the boy who would be king
"How many voters knew in November of 2008 that Obama was registered as a Muslim for school in Jakarta as Barry Soetoro (the surname of his Muslim step-father)? Or that young Barry studied the Quran, memorized Muslim prayers and enjoyed the Muslim call to prayer? Obama reminisced in 2007 that the Islamic call to prayer is "one of the prettiest sounds on earth.""

His Grandmother may have called him boy, mine called me boy sometimes too. He was known as Barry Soetoro in Jakarta. I don't care if he is Muslim or not. Right now he is President, at least until the next election.
 
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