Low prices are killing this month!ppl bending over like crazy!

Treadmill · Mar 2, 2016

xiggi said:
Is it time to regulate vans yet?

No!!!

The minute DOT steps in, I am done with this.

Slo-Ride · Mar 2, 2016

Treadmill said:
The minute DOT steps in, I am done with this.

Had a nice long talk with a Ohio weight master the other night, while waiting on a trooper to issue me some paperwork I didn't want. Weight master was a nice guy but let's say I didn't like the trooper so much that night.
From what he said its in the wind but currently the gvw of the regulations are keeping their hands tied. (Under 10000 lbs) The idea of no actual sleeper birth is what seemed to upset him the most, even more so then the miles allowed to drive by the carriers. Transporters apparently are on the hit list first. That's what he claims he is watching more then anything because its easier to tag them then the vans.

Turtle · Mar 2, 2016

I've pulled into many a scale house in my Sprinter while placarded, and nary a word on my sleeper. The regulations plainly state that the sleeper berth regulations (dimensions and location) apply to all Commercial Motor Vehicles, as defined earlier in the section, and any vehicle placarded fits the definition. So, I dunno.

RoadSaint · Mar 2, 2016

I don't like running cheap freight, but I do what I have to do sometimes. I ended up averaging about 70 cpm this past week because I took a cheap load from Texas to Chicago to get back to the midwest shipping lanes. But that was 4200 miles at 70cpm average. Would definitely rather do that than sit on the mexican border for a week or two waiting for a price I'll never get.

Slo-Ride · Mar 2, 2016

Turtle said:
I've pulled into many a scale house in my Sprinter while placarded, and nary a word on my sleeper. The regulations plainly state that the sleeper berth regulations (dimensions and location) apply to all Commercial Motor Vehicles, as defined earlier in the section, and any vehicle placarded fits the definition. So, I dunno.

I dunno either.
He says they are aware of the vans, penske trucks etc etc, miles being driven but currently can't do much about it, but change is in motion and it may take a lil more time but its coming. He said they are aware that drivers are sleeping on the floor or on top of the freight but unless he sees them getting loaded or unloaded his hands are tied. He can't pull you over just because you may have freight. Also stated he was aware that carriers are not policing themselves as they should.

ajakapari · Mar 2, 2016

Drivers are sleeping on the floor and on top of freight? Really?

Say no ! To cheap freight !!!!!

Slo-Ride · Mar 2, 2016

ajakapari said:
Drivers are sleeping on the floor and on top of freight? Really?

Say no ! To cheap freight !!!!!

And the front seats

Turtle · Mar 2, 2016

The DOT can't regulate under-10,001 pound vehicles without the sayso from Congress. The US Code of Federal Regulations defines what can be regulated.

Slo-Ride · Mar 2, 2016

Turtle said:
The DOT can't regulate under-10,001 pound vehicles without the sayso from Congress. The US Code of Federal Regulations defines what can be regulated.

Correct and propely the reason more time is mentioned

ajakapari · Mar 2, 2016

Slo-Ride said:
And the front seats

Why would someone do that to them selfs... I guess that's why they get low rates to keep moving so they don't have to stay on the front seats for too long... Torture them
Self ....

Say no ! To cheap freight !!!!!

Turtle · Mar 2, 2016

Well, people have been saying that cargo vans will be regulated "soon" for at least as long as I've been doing this. But none of the accident data for cargo vans supports regulation, and until it does, the chances of cargo vans being regulated are zero.

coalminer · Mar 2, 2016

Turtle said:
The DOT can't regulate under-10,001 pound vehicles without the sayso from Congress. The US Code of Federal Regulations defines what can be regulated.

True but they are still subject to the normal traffic laws. If an officer suspects something is not right, they can say there was a tail light out and pull them over and check license/insurance.

Slo-Ride · Mar 2, 2016

Turtle said:
But none of the accident data for cargo vans supports regulation, and until it does, the chances of cargo vans being regulated are zero.

I believe we just lost 2 due to wrecks this last year, both drivers most of us knew. That's just 2 out of the hundreds, enter the carpet installers,,painters,, carpenters and you will find more data once you follow the whole picture..If your making money out of your vehicle ya should all play by the same rules.

davekc · Mar 2, 2016

I don't see them regulating everything under that 10k mark. The closest I could see is if it is commercial transportation. And even then. As for people sleeping in them, down at the border towns I have seen whole families come out of them. Nothing surprises me any more in that regard.

Turtle · Mar 2, 2016

Slo-Ride said:
If your making money out of your vehicle ya should all play by the same rules.

You think they regulate trucks and buses because they're making money with the vehicles?

Slo-Ride · Mar 2, 2016

davekc said:
As for people sleeping in them, down at the border towns I have seen whole families come out of them. Nothing surprises me any more in that regard.

You must be out of the truck now for some time. I see family's living in nearly every Walmart and truck stop I park at. Currently looking at one family in a car that has been here as long as I have..2 adults 1 child

tknight · Mar 2, 2016

Slo-Ride said:
Had a nice long talk with a Ohio weight master the other night, while waiting on a trooper to issue me some paperwork I didn't want. Weight master was a nice guy but let's say I didn't like the trooper so much that night.
From what he said its in the wind but currently the gvw of the regulations are keeping their hands tied. (Under 10000 lbs) The idea of no actual sleeper birth is what seemed to upset him the most, even more so then the miles allowed to drive by the carriers. Transporters apparently are on the hit list first. That's what he claims he is watching more then anything because its easier to tag them then the vans.

Papers what did they get yA for and where?