joebob1_30132
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Im betting by the end of summer UPS will grow some paws....I called it after con-way was bought ...and im say it again.....
lookout big cat peeps ..what will "brown do for yo
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joebob1_30132
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RE: lookout big cat peeps ..what will "brown do fo
Gut feeling darlin.. heres my thunking ... Decline of auto freight .. ups doesnt have this division.. panther doesnt have the pool of businesse and homes that UPS FED CONWAY could back up too evryday... ups and the rest back up too 1000's of business across the country every day instant sales .... panther will have to sell its arse off and will never come close to the exposure the big guns got.. and agin chaning auto industry...really thats all Pll has
remember conway got sucked into the public parent Co. months bsfore Pll bought it ... they did it to sell... Pll went public months ago .. I always thought they were groomong themselves for a buy out ...buying truck lines building their value..
It would be easier for UPS to buy a ready made product than to start from scratch....but heck what do I know I though the Braves would walk away with more than one world series...
tell when to stop cherri!! i could go on and on and on
Gut feeling darlin.. heres my thunking ... Decline of auto freight .. ups doesnt have this division.. panther doesnt have the pool of businesse and homes that UPS FED CONWAY could back up too evryday... ups and the rest back up too 1000's of business across the country every day instant sales .... panther will have to sell its arse off and will never come close to the exposure the big guns got.. and agin chaning auto industry...really thats all Pll has
remember conway got sucked into the public parent Co. months bsfore Pll bought it ... they did it to sell... Pll went public months ago .. I always thought they were groomong themselves for a buy out ...buying truck lines building their value..
It would be easier for UPS to buy a ready made product than to start from scratch....but heck what do I know I though the Braves would walk away with more than one world series...
tell when to stop cherri!! i could go on and on and on 
Jefferson3000
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RE: lookout big cat peeps ..what will
Actually UPS does have this division. They bought it from Menlo, although I believe that they were more interested in the heavy freight forwarding side of Menlo at the time. Give it some time. UPS never makes a quick move. When they make a calculated decision to bump up their expedite business, you'll know it. Yes they could buy Panther (if it were up for sale), or they may do something else.
By the way, with Panther buying Integres, it looks as though Panther has other ideas on the horizon for itself.
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Jeff
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Actually UPS does have this division. They bought it from Menlo, although I believe that they were more interested in the heavy freight forwarding side of Menlo at the time. Give it some time. UPS never makes a quick move. When they make a calculated decision to bump up their expedite business, you'll know it. Yes they could buy Panther (if it were up for sale), or they may do something else.
By the way, with Panther buying Integres, it looks as though Panther has other ideas on the horizon for itself.
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Jeff
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RE: lookout big cat peeps ..what will "brown do fo
As Sean Connery said, "never say never", however I am more confidant of the Astros winning the world series this fall behind the pitching of Roger Clemens than I am of UPS buying Panther.
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As Sean Connery said, "never say never", however I am more confidant of the Astros winning the world series this fall behind the pitching of Roger Clemens than I am of UPS buying Panther.
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riverrat2000
Seasoned Expediter
RE: lookout big cat peeps ..what will
hmmm, brown trucks with a constipated cat on the side, the more I think of it and some of the rumors that have been going around in the industry if the odds were right I might just bet some money on that one better bet than playing in the casinos
hmmm, brown trucks with a constipated cat on the side, the more I think of it and some of the rumors that have been going around in the industry if the odds were right I might just bet some money on that one better bet than playing in the casinos
riverrat2000
Seasoned Expediter
RE: lookout big cat peeps ..what will
of course they could buy fed ex and change the name of both companys too fed-up
of course they could buy fed ex and change the name of both companys too fed-up
RE: lookout big cat peeps ..what will "brown do fo
>remember conway got sucked into the public parent Co. months
>bsfore Pll bought it ... they did it to sell...
Not exactly sure what you mean by this JB?
>Pll went public months ago
Is Panther now a publicly traded company?
>remember conway got sucked into the public parent Co. months
>bsfore Pll bought it ... they did it to sell...
Not exactly sure what you mean by this JB?
>Pll went public months ago
Is Panther now a publicly traded company?
RE: lookout big cat peeps ..what will "brown do fo
Not yet Moot....
Panther Expedited Services (PTHR)
IPO Profile
Expected Date TBA
IPO File Date 6/2/06
Price Range $0.00 - $0.00
Shares Offered 0.0 mm
source:http://www.ipohome.com/common/ipoprofile.asp?ticker=PTHR
Not yet Moot....
Panther Expedited Services (PTHR)
IPO Profile
Expected Date TBA
IPO File Date 6/2/06
Price Range $0.00 - $0.00
Shares Offered 0.0 mm
source:http://www.ipohome.com/common/ipoprofile.asp?ticker=PTHR
kangar0085
Seasoned Expediter
RE: lookout big cat peeps ..what will
joebob1_30132 or Nostradamus?
joebob1_30132 or Nostradamus?
RE: lookout big cat peeps ..what will "brown do fo
Thanks OVM. I didn't think Panther had gone public yet. Last summer there was a post on here about the IPO. Some people were overcome with giddiness at the prospect of buying Panther stock. I'm not sure what the attraction was for investing in a transportation company with such a narrow market focus. Maybe they had some insider info.
Thanks OVM. I didn't think Panther had gone public yet. Last summer there was a post on here about the IPO. Some people were overcome with giddiness at the prospect of buying Panther stock. I'm not sure what the attraction was for investing in a transportation company with such a narrow market focus. Maybe they had some insider info.
RE: lookout big cat peeps ..what will "brown do fo
If ya see thier numbers they grossed $163 million but only netted $3 million! Must be all those low ball bids????*LOL*
Not much return for a shareholder.
If ya see thier numbers they grossed $163 million but only netted $3 million! Must be all those low ball bids????*LOL*
Not much return for a shareholder.
joebob1_30132
Expert Expediter
RE: lookout big cat peeps ..what will
My Gawd I got hammered last night ...surounded bye dancing girls and bologna sandwhiches (who else sings the song "my bologna has a first name its oscar"....to remember that spelling) It was just one of those crazy nights ..dont ask ..cant explain..
Dave It is only a prediction not rumor milling Im more Nastradumbarse than a Nostrodamas...I laid out my case for for why i think think that.. As far as MELENO..being UPS's division..well I cant count 2 "MELENO expiditers ive sat bye in any truck stop at any time..Im taliking big boys want big divisions and a big presense.
And I dont think its a bad thing..
Conway now was a little offshoot the whole time they were inexpiditing .. Remember the Matrix fsc..and the "new Look" for the trucks ..they brought us into the big company the publicly traded company..at that time knowing full well they were selling us ...I dont understand the whole thing but it was a move to make that transaction easier or leagal or cost effective...???They realized that Brokering all those loads from its huge customer base it had face time with everyday from its regonal terminals was easier and more profitable.. Pll does not have that exposure...
No inside info..just a hack who enjoys the game of business..
Now someone pass me some asprin
My Gawd I got hammered last night ...surounded bye dancing girls and bologna sandwhiches (who else sings the song "my bologna has a first name its oscar"....to remember that spelling) It was just one of those crazy nights ..dont ask ..cant explain..
Dave It is only a prediction not rumor milling Im more Nastradumbarse than a Nostrodamas...I laid out my case for for why i think think that.. As far as MELENO..being UPS's division..well I cant count 2 "MELENO expiditers ive sat bye in any truck stop at any time..Im taliking big boys want big divisions and a big presense.
And I dont think its a bad thing..
Conway now was a little offshoot the whole time they were inexpiditing .. Remember the Matrix fsc..and the "new Look" for the trucks ..they brought us into the big company the publicly traded company..at that time knowing full well they were selling us ...I dont understand the whole thing but it was a move to make that transaction easier or leagal or cost effective...???They realized that Brokering all those loads from its huge customer base it had face time with everyday from its regonal terminals was easier and more profitable.. Pll does not have that exposure...
No inside info..just a hack who enjoys the game of business..
Now someone pass me some asprin
fortwayne
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RE: lookout big cat peeps ..what will
What?
UPS buying Panther?
Someone actually started this conversation again?
Why would UPS want to buy Panther?
Could there be any truth to this developed 'truck stop' rumor?
First, when Panther goes public, the sell of the company will have to win approval from the stock holders.
Those stock holders will be looking for two things in general. (1) the best financial offer and (2) the best business plan to grow the economic stabilty and profit of the company.
Now, a quick look at UPS track record might just tell most stock holders that this would not be the best avenue to pursue if indeed this rumor was to florish into reality.
Afterall, if you recall, UPS fumbled a great deal of their business away in the overnight package delivery business to Fed Ex when they became embattled in a huge labor batter with the union.
Next, they have failed to actually lay out a solid business development plan to build their expedite division, falling well short of their own publicly stated desires.
With just two items on the table I believe any attempt by UPS to acquire Panther would fall on deaf ears. I would hope and believe this is nothing more than truck stop rumors and that Panther would continue to improve, develop and expand their own market share in the expedite industry.
If anything I believe Panther is making certain changes to make themselves more attractive to shareholders and owners of other companies seeking to sell out.
Then again - that is just my thought, I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
Fort Wayne
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What?
UPS buying Panther?
Someone actually started this conversation again?
Why would UPS want to buy Panther?
Could there be any truth to this developed 'truck stop' rumor?
First, when Panther goes public, the sell of the company will have to win approval from the stock holders.
Those stock holders will be looking for two things in general. (1) the best financial offer and (2) the best business plan to grow the economic stabilty and profit of the company.
Now, a quick look at UPS track record might just tell most stock holders that this would not be the best avenue to pursue if indeed this rumor was to florish into reality.
Afterall, if you recall, UPS fumbled a great deal of their business away in the overnight package delivery business to Fed Ex when they became embattled in a huge labor batter with the union.
Next, they have failed to actually lay out a solid business development plan to build their expedite division, falling well short of their own publicly stated desires.
With just two items on the table I believe any attempt by UPS to acquire Panther would fall on deaf ears. I would hope and believe this is nothing more than truck stop rumors and that Panther would continue to improve, develop and expand their own market share in the expedite industry.
If anything I believe Panther is making certain changes to make themselves more attractive to shareholders and owners of other companies seeking to sell out.
Then again - that is just my thought, I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
Fort Wayne
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joebob1_30132
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RE: lookout big cat peeps ..what will
yeah right ft wayne ..first of all there IS NO RUMOR..None zilch nadda. nothing nill. just a speculation..supposition ponderment guessing wonderment projection... Good point though but tell me ..what share holder in their right mind wouldnt jump all over a sell to UPS one ,name one...anyone ? anyone ? Buller? Buller?...I think they would be on it like white on rice...with a company like UPS who has world wide contacts I see Ups vans in My neighborhood interstates, Airports ..Tv commercials.. but hey will see...and again it would be a bad thing..as far as I could see.
yeah right ft wayne ..first of all there IS NO RUMOR..None zilch nadda. nothing nill. just a speculation..supposition ponderment guessing wonderment projection... Good point though but tell me ..what share holder in their right mind wouldnt jump all over a sell to UPS one ,name one...anyone ? anyone ? Buller? Buller?...I think they would be on it like white on rice...with a company like UPS who has world wide contacts I see Ups vans in My neighborhood interstates, Airports ..Tv commercials.. but hey will see...and again it would be a bad thing..as far as I could see.
joebob1_30132
Expert Expediter
RE: lookout big cat peeps ..what will
correction ..still hung over..wouldnt be a bad thing.... Ican see a lot of panther pride out there aint nothing wrong with that ..they were fine to us but i think I would opt for a smaller company if I were to do it again...that would be a better fit for me.
correction ..still hung over..wouldnt be a bad thing.... Ican see a lot of panther pride out there aint nothing wrong with that ..they were fine to us but i think I would opt for a smaller company if I were to do it again...that would be a better fit for me.
fortwayne
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RE: lookout big cat peeps ..what will
joebob -
Needless to say those trucks you see in your neighborhood, etc are not the same trucks we are even talking about - a whole different division, but then again its' your thread.
Ok, you wanted one name - me. You said one, so there you have it - me.
I have nothing against UPS. It just would not be the fit I would like to see as a stockholder - I have some hesitation on their ability in the expedite freight division and once again it is NOT the same thing as shipping their overnight packages.
UPS is finding it difficult to get their actual own expedite services division up and running, finding the customer base and then expanding on that base.
If I was considering selling I would look to the stockholders themselves as the owners - just a thought.
Fort Wayne
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joebob -
Needless to say those trucks you see in your neighborhood, etc are not the same trucks we are even talking about - a whole different division, but then again its' your thread.
Ok, you wanted one name - me. You said one, so there you have it - me.
I have nothing against UPS. It just would not be the fit I would like to see as a stockholder - I have some hesitation on their ability in the expedite freight division and once again it is NOT the same thing as shipping their overnight packages.
UPS is finding it difficult to get their actual own expedite services division up and running, finding the customer base and then expanding on that base.
If I was considering selling I would look to the stockholders themselves as the owners - just a thought.
Fort Wayne
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