Looking to join the expediter business

mema mikey

Seasoned Expediter
We are empty nesters and looking at joining the expediter business with a straight truck as a team. We are tired of the daily grind of the corporate world and want to enjoy driving across the country and seeing the US. We are seriously looking at Fed Ex and PantherII. Help us? We read the posts regarding the unhappy ex conway drivers. Now we are wondering if Panther is a good choice. We are wanting to buy a truck and be o/o. Can anyone help with giving advice which companies to look at and who to stay away from. We have very good jobs now and are hoping to make at least 70k after expenses the first year as a team. That does not seem out of line with the reading we have been doing. Is this not realistic? We are not afraid of hard work and have the business skills needed to manage a business. We have children and grandkids on the east and the west coast. Hoping this will work with visits to see them also. Please recommend some companies for us to talk to or to stay away from! Also, anyone know if the expediter seminar in Nashville next weekend is worth the trip and money? Would it help for wannabes to make a decision? Thanks for any of your expertise you share.
 

darkunicorn

Seasoned Expediter
Panther isn’t a good fit for every one like me but am stuck there at the moment (I'm on a load). Not every experience I’ve had has been bad but bottom line is $$$ and I just cant seem to make any there I’ve teamed and soloed there. FedEx in the past was only looking for teams, and I don’t think I’ll team again unless I meat just the right person some day but not holding my breath! If you chose Panther, FedEx, Landstar, some things to consider when buying a truck. Think about getting a reefer box, lift gate, palette jack, 2 wheel cart, furniture pads and blankets, at least 8 load straps and 4 load locks not load bars but the etrack load locks.
 

TeamCaffee

Administrator
Staff member
Owner/Operator
We are also empty nesters! One of the great thing for us is we do get to see our kids more often then I believe we would if we had kept our old 9 to 5 jobs. The thing that you and they have to understand is you usually drop in with very little notice so everyone has to be flexible. We sometimes can give our daughter 24 hours notice but not very often. If we know we are going to deliver near her we let her know that we will be in the area but don't get your heart set on us being able to stop. About half the time we will be on the way to see her and get a load offer so if we have made definite plans now we go out of service and enjoy a couple of days. If you want to live dangerously stay in service and be ready to leave at a drop of the hat. Before jumping into this business we got all of our finances in order to take some pressure off. You will have really good months and some really slow months and you have to be prepared for that. We love the company we work for but we always have a backup plan.

The best advice is read read read and then be over prepared for the slow times. I also believe that what ever company you chose try to find a mentor that is really close to the same situation you have. Such as a O/O or driver, same size truck, and the same company.

Good Luck
 

davebeckym

Expert Expediter
Fedex CC is a good choice for a team, especially for new drivers. Read everything A Team has written. They made money from the getgo while driving team for owners leased to Fedex. Fedex offers suggested express centers to wait for loads. This is a great way for people new to expediting to learn where the freight is.

Drive for a owner before you get your own truck. Some people don't like driving all night, driving in heavy traffic, or waiting for days for a load. Some people can't sleep in a truck or while it's moving. Some just can't stay out on the road for weeks or months at a time.

If you go with Panther, go with an owner like DaveKC. He will work to get you out of slow areas and help with where to lay over while you are learning the ropes.
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
One of the best things you can do is read back at least a year in the general, newbies and recruiter forums. You don't need to read every post, but read the ones with titles that catch your eye or look to have information related to your situation. I second the suggestion to drive for someone for a few months. If it's great you can get your own truck and keep going. If it's terrible you can give 2 weeks notice and walk away without losing a huge amount on a truck sale. As a team you can drive for any company and do fairly well. Some companies are only good if you are a team. Good luck.

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terryandrene

Veteran Expediter
Safety & Compliance
US Coast Guard
Typically grest advice from all of the above. With regards to your Nashville workshop question, I'd say if you live within a comfortable drive to N'ville it would be worth your while. There are usually anywhere from 25-70 folks at these sessions many of whom have made their go - no go decisions after listening to the array of speakers, talking with current expediters and meeting several recruiters who are eager to explain how each of their companies are better than the others. The recruiters might also give you references for owners leased to their company who are looking for drivers. Truck dealers are also in attendence and they can help you determine if a new or used truck is in your budget.
 

mema mikey

Seasoned Expediter
Thanks to all for taking the time to reply. So much to consider and think about. I have been glued to the computer reading forums and some scare me to death but others make me want to leave today! Thanks again for your advice and I will keep reading.
 

Jonnyf123

Seasoned Expediter
Hi Mema Mikey,

I live in the Nashville area, and I'm also looking into this business, could you give us/me some more information on this seminar next week here in town? Jon
 

mema mikey

Seasoned Expediter
Jon,

Sorry I didn't respond sooner. I was out of town and away from computer a few days. . Looks really interesting - we decided not to make the trip from MN. Didn't have enough planning time to get away from work etc. Good luck!

Mema Mikey
 

simon says

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
You say you have very good jobs now? Why in the world would you want to get into this business? There are a ton of companies out here who will promise you the world, but if/when things slow they survive and you can die. Yes teams can do o.k., but don't expect revenues of $3000 a week. Someone will suggest you turn everything down that is not a great run, and before long, you will make less anyway.

There is a ton of stuff to learn about and a very rigorous lifestyle. Then there is the crazy semi driver who is limited in skills who can rear-end you and end all your dreams. If you want to see the country, my suggestion is buy a van sized mobil home. I enjoy this work for many obvious reasons, and have survived tough times, but I would never recommend this lifestyle for empty nesters...
 

bludragon13

Seasoned Expediter
I thought I'd give you a little different perspective-my wife and I went into the bus. a year ago, we jumped in bought a truck and signed up with conway-now. I had previous experience driving semi but VERY little six mos. stopped to raise family . Anyway we found the expedite bus to be a great way to do those things you spoke of and to generate a lot of money but there are down sides and many of the posts do seem scary. The biggest thing is the miles you have to put in to make the money and you have to be prepared to do them so, 8-26-06 to 9-15-06 we had 10 loads 7683 miles (these were paid miles there are additional dead head miles not included in my figures). We have found that the people we meet and work with are by and large great regardless of which carrier you choose. The most unhappy are those we have met who work for a fleet owners, they are employees and soon realize they are making money for someone who is sitting home chatting on EO. No offense to anyone meant-perhaps some need the security of not being responsible for their decision. I would not change a thing on how we got into the bus. If you can do the miles you can overcome all of the other difficulties associated with expediting. Expediting is a challenge- you have to deliver as quickly as you can, also the above miles were loads that ranged from 1578 mi to 247 mi so there is alot of diversity in the types of runs you will choose from, we have a 100 percent on time and 96 percent acceptance rating available about 76 percent. We work 3to 4 weeks then take 5to7 days off, that’s why we became o/o's. Please feel free to e-mail, I'd be happy to give you some idea of income and other costs but 140k plus gross was easy for us on this schedule during first year.:) Good luck and if you can do the miles jump in and give it your best you can be successful.:)
 

simon says

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
P.S. Don't forget about the truck stop lifestyle and security issues. If you have no idea of what I am referring to, go the nearest urban-located truck stop near you, and just hang out inside and out for about 4 hrs after 8 p.m. Make sure you have a CB radio and listen in. If you like your space and don't like surprises (a knock on the door by a stranger at any time), this lifestyle is going to drive you nuts... If you can handle this, then if you work smart and make financially prudent decisions, you will be o.k.
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
Three and a half years ago Diane and I were in your shoes; white collar people with no previous trucking experience considering the expediting opportunity.

Why quit so-called good jobs for expediting? In our case, we would rather try and fail in our 40's than sit around at age 70 and regret that we never tried.

It was not a blind leap. Thorough research and good financial preparation enabled us to jump in and do well from the first day.

I urge you to explore the FedEx White Glove opportunity. Your corporate background will be an asset in this work where customer service and interpersonal skills are especially important.

I think it is fair to say White Glove trucks, especially reefer-equipped ones, and fully-credentialled drivers get in and out of California easier than most other expediter trucks. The East coast is busy for virtually all expediting companies.

By way of example, we have been in and out of California three times in the last three months. We're on a run out of there as I write this and with predispatches we know we'll be back in CA next week after a stop in New England.

Family visits on the road come easy. Anytime you are close to a friend or loved one, you can go out of service to visit. We've done so numerous times. As a result, our family life has improved over what it was when we stayed in one place at home.

As others have said, it would be wise to begin with a fleet owner's truck. No matter how much research you do and how prepared you think you are, you won't know if the life is for you until you actually jump in yourself.

Starting with a fleet owner's truck gives you a way to get out intact if the life turns out to be something different than you hoped.

Another advantage of the fleet-owner start is it gives you the chance to find out what you like and dislike in a truck. You can build those ideas into your own truck at a later date. You will also gain time to chat with other drivers and truck owners about what they like and would do different if they had the chance to build their trucks over again.

The disadvantage of the fleet-truck route is it brings a fleet owner into your lives. As you will quickly learn from reading the forums, some fleet owners are better than others.

Tim and Pat Hopkins, Ohio-based brothers, come highly recommended in these forums. Diane and I have driven one of Tim's trucks and got to know both him and Pat then. You will have to look long and hard to find better fleet owners than those two.

They advertise on EO and are easy to find. Give Tim a call to visit about your income expectations and expense questions. He can tell you how his teams have done. Tim and Pat both run White Glove trucks.

Feel free to contact Diane and me in private if you wish. We'll be happty to share our experiences too.

By the way, we're from Minnesota too. Let's talk!
 
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