Broompilot
Veteran Expediter
>>The argument of experience has been debated here a thousand
>>times over. There are always exceptions to the rules but if
>>one is following the percentages and odds for success, then
>>it is a no brainer.
>>This not only applies to expediting but many other forms of
>>business.
>>
>>In your example, if I wanted to know they keys to a
>>successful marriage, I would likely ask the couple married
>>many years verses the newlyweds.
>>
>
>DaveKC,
>
>Lets try to put the focus not on bickering between us but on
>USEFUL information that can benefit inexperienced newbies
>who are searching for fleet owners.
>
>You and I both know that there are bad fleet owners out
>there, some of whom take advantage of newbies. Their actions
>hurt all fleet owners and make life more difficult for
>newbies too.
>
>The problem I have with your emphasis on experience is that
>so many other factors are in play. Below are some real-world
>fleet owner situations. I'm asking you, DaveKC, for the
>benefit of newbies, to provide advice - your experienced
>perspective - on how to avoid the following fleet owner
>situations:
>
>1. The experienced fleet owner (over 10 years) that does not
>maintain his trucks, which means they break down and cost
>the newbie money due to down time.
>
>2. The experienced fleet owner that terrorized and assulted
>one of his female drivers.
>
>3. The experienced fleet owner that simply stopped paying
>his drivers for reasons unknown.
>
>4. The experienced fleet owner that lures drivers with bad
>credit into contracts that hold out the promise of truck
>ownership after a number of years of service, but that
>seldom if ever ends up turning the truck over.
>
>5. The experienced fleet owner that habitually helps himself
>to a few hundred dollars of the driver's damage deposit when
>a truck is turned in, citing a truck defect that the driver
>cannot easily verify.
>
>6. The experienced fleet owner that keeps the entire escrow
>deposit when the contract is terminated.
>
>7. The experienced fleet owner that does not pay on a
>regular schedule.
>
>8. The experienced fleet owner that insists truck repairs
>and maintenance be done only at the fleet owner's location,
>thereby requiring the driver to lose time and miles to
>deadhead there.
>
>9. The experienced fleet owner that was not available when
>the truck broke down and won't reimburse the driver for
>repairs the driver made out of his own pocket to keep the
>truck running.
>
>10. The experinced fleet owner that will immediately
>terminate a driver if he learns the driver is looking to
>change fleet owners.
>
>11. The experienced fleet owner that pays less than other
>fleet owners.
>
>12. The experienced fleet owners that have loosely-worded
>contracts and try to change the terms after the driver is in
>the truck.
>
>I know each of these situations to be true. Some of them I
>experienced myself. Others were told to me by drivers that I
>believe (There are a number of stories I've also heard that
>I don't believe and those are not listed above.)
>
>To be fair, any fleet owner can produce a long list of
>driver horror stories, all true, and all sad. But Teacel
>started this thread for the benefit of newbies, not fleet
>owners.
>
>DaveKC, you said, "In your (ATeam's) example, if I wanted to
>know they keys to a successful marriage, I would likely ask
>the couple married
>>many years verses the newlyweds."
>
>Very well. You have many more years experience than me in
>many respects. I ask you to share from your years of
>experience for the benefit of newbies.
>
>How can newbies protect themselves from each of the 12 fleet
>owner situations listed above? Since all of the above fleet
>owners had years of experience, what other indicators are
>there for newbies to use?
Very very very easy to answer all of these questions,, REPUTATION and if you do not take the time to look into this persons history than TOO BAD. County Court Records would be a good start DONT YA THINK?
>>times over. There are always exceptions to the rules but if
>>one is following the percentages and odds for success, then
>>it is a no brainer.
>>This not only applies to expediting but many other forms of
>>business.
>>
>>In your example, if I wanted to know they keys to a
>>successful marriage, I would likely ask the couple married
>>many years verses the newlyweds.
>>
>
>DaveKC,
>
>Lets try to put the focus not on bickering between us but on
>USEFUL information that can benefit inexperienced newbies
>who are searching for fleet owners.
>
>You and I both know that there are bad fleet owners out
>there, some of whom take advantage of newbies. Their actions
>hurt all fleet owners and make life more difficult for
>newbies too.
>
>The problem I have with your emphasis on experience is that
>so many other factors are in play. Below are some real-world
>fleet owner situations. I'm asking you, DaveKC, for the
>benefit of newbies, to provide advice - your experienced
>perspective - on how to avoid the following fleet owner
>situations:
>
>1. The experienced fleet owner (over 10 years) that does not
>maintain his trucks, which means they break down and cost
>the newbie money due to down time.
>
>2. The experienced fleet owner that terrorized and assulted
>one of his female drivers.
>
>3. The experienced fleet owner that simply stopped paying
>his drivers for reasons unknown.
>
>4. The experienced fleet owner that lures drivers with bad
>credit into contracts that hold out the promise of truck
>ownership after a number of years of service, but that
>seldom if ever ends up turning the truck over.
>
>5. The experienced fleet owner that habitually helps himself
>to a few hundred dollars of the driver's damage deposit when
>a truck is turned in, citing a truck defect that the driver
>cannot easily verify.
>
>6. The experienced fleet owner that keeps the entire escrow
>deposit when the contract is terminated.
>
>7. The experienced fleet owner that does not pay on a
>regular schedule.
>
>8. The experienced fleet owner that insists truck repairs
>and maintenance be done only at the fleet owner's location,
>thereby requiring the driver to lose time and miles to
>deadhead there.
>
>9. The experienced fleet owner that was not available when
>the truck broke down and won't reimburse the driver for
>repairs the driver made out of his own pocket to keep the
>truck running.
>
>10. The experinced fleet owner that will immediately
>terminate a driver if he learns the driver is looking to
>change fleet owners.
>
>11. The experienced fleet owner that pays less than other
>fleet owners.
>
>12. The experienced fleet owners that have loosely-worded
>contracts and try to change the terms after the driver is in
>the truck.
>
>I know each of these situations to be true. Some of them I
>experienced myself. Others were told to me by drivers that I
>believe (There are a number of stories I've also heard that
>I don't believe and those are not listed above.)
>
>To be fair, any fleet owner can produce a long list of
>driver horror stories, all true, and all sad. But Teacel
>started this thread for the benefit of newbies, not fleet
>owners.
>
>DaveKC, you said, "In your (ATeam's) example, if I wanted to
>know they keys to a successful marriage, I would likely ask
>the couple married
>>many years verses the newlyweds."
>
>Very well. You have many more years experience than me in
>many respects. I ask you to share from your years of
>experience for the benefit of newbies.
>
>How can newbies protect themselves from each of the 12 fleet
>owner situations listed above? Since all of the above fleet
>owners had years of experience, what other indicators are
>there for newbies to use?
Very very very easy to answer all of these questions,, REPUTATION and if you do not take the time to look into this persons history than TOO BAD. County Court Records would be a good start DONT YA THINK?
