Log book for vans
- Thread starter pellgrn
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In my opinion NO!!! How can they enforce this law if it does become law? I and many others run vans without names on them because, well! I sell that anonymity, and privacy to my customers. Some do like or prefer we use marked vans, but many don’t like it. SO!!! If I sell it others must too. Now how is the DOT going to know we are who we are? What about all the privately owned vans that people own? Then you have Joe-Blow carpenter or painter owning vans, and the vending machine companies too. The big expedite companies may decide to make it mandatory but I don’t see it becoming a state or federal law, any time soon.
I think it will happen if you are leased to the large companies.It will be their insurance carriers demanding it so they don!t have to pay out if the van is in a accident and the driver is ilegal.Right now FDX CC requires van drivers to log if they are hauling haz/mat.
Thanks for your comments,and i agree the big carriers will make it happen to cover themselves.I would hope they would give the drivers some notice so you don't make an investment in a van only to find your just as limited as a big truck.The one state were vans need to log is A.L and it's been that way since at least 1999.
If your hauling hazmat in a cargo van you have to log it. It's the law. TST tried to require a log from their cargo vans a few years ago and from what I hear the drivers just refused and TST just gave up on the idea. Some companies have policies restricting the miles for vans and that would probably satisfy an insurance companies concerns. I think if it were going to happen federally it probably would have by now.
Other than with Hazmat, required as noted in above post, I can't see where logging will be mandated for vehicles under 10k lbs. If that were the case, than everyone in their car on the highway should keep a log book too. Don't want Joe the travelling salesman to crash up his big Buick violating the HOS
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I suppose the cops and scale people could use the operating #'s we have to display as an identifier that we vans run long. Here in Ont. local jo-blow carpenter or breadman doesn't display them. And also the provincial Gov. doesn't recognize vans for commercial taxes. We can't claim Prov. Tax breaks cause we're not over 10,600 lbs GVW. If you look at the big trucks they have a PRP designation on their licence plate. I guess the Ont. Gov. doesn't think we vans are worthy of a tax break.
As previously stated regulations do require any vehicle to log if you are running a placcard load of hazmat. So this would include a van if you were placarded. Placard load is the key word. But my question is can you leagally carry hazmat in a cargo van if the area of containment is not closed in, i.e., most vans are open from front to rear allowing exposure to the load. If anyone knows of the particulair regulation which prohibits it, I would appreciate knowing it. I have heard that is why Panther ceased hauling hazmat in vans, don't know if that is still the case or not.