Light Truck Diesel Engines
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One reason I asked is Ford tries to quiet complaints about diesel engines with new 6.7-liter Power Stroke V8 - Autoweek
I have not heard any thing about the new Ford 6.7 diesel as far as reliability goes . Nor the latest version of the Duramax or Cummins diesel engines.
jimmy
I have not heard any thing about the new Ford 6.7 diesel as far as reliability goes . Nor the latest version of the Duramax or Cummins diesel engines.
jimmy
Jack_Berry
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I read part of the 6.0 problems started with head bolts that were too short exacerbated by fools over boosting their engines.
I did stand next to an idling 6.7 and did not know it was a diesel. Service guy said they have reports of 23 mpg. Now if they lowered the power would they mileage go higher?
Both ford and gm cancelled plans for v6 light duty diesels.considering the experience ford has with light diesel in Europe it is a surprise.
I did stand next to an idling 6.7 and did not know it was a diesel. Service guy said they have reports of 23 mpg. Now if they lowered the power would they mileage go higher?
Both ford and gm cancelled plans for v6 light duty diesels.considering the experience ford has with light diesel in Europe it is a surprise.
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Yeah Ford and GM or Cummins not producing a diesel engine for cars or small pickups puzzles me as well . Though I guess the lack of success Isuzu and I believe Toyota had with their small trucks powered by diesel engines had some impact on their decisions.
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Jack_Berry
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I thought I read cummins is working on a small engine for Nissan.
greg334
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Well the thing is the products for US market is driven by the people in the companies - not the consumer.
Ford for an example could have brought the Diesel Fiesta (60 mpg) here but they used an excuse that they would not sell enough of them to justify the cost while the real reason is that it will ding into their hybrid sales and cause problems for them in the future with any more DoE grants. Ford, like others is looking at how to get as much money out of the government as possible for thing they should be doing on their own.
VW seems to be happy with the sales of their TDI and Mercedes seems to be happy too so I would suspect that because neither Mercedes or VW need to steal money from the taxpayer to fund assembling of a car with off the shelf pieces, they can afford to market a diesel here.
Ford for an example could have brought the Diesel Fiesta (60 mpg) here but they used an excuse that they would not sell enough of them to justify the cost while the real reason is that it will ding into their hybrid sales and cause problems for them in the future with any more DoE grants. Ford, like others is looking at how to get as much money out of the government as possible for thing they should be doing on their own.
VW seems to be happy with the sales of their TDI and Mercedes seems to be happy too so I would suspect that because neither Mercedes or VW need to steal money from the taxpayer to fund assembling of a car with off the shelf pieces, they can afford to market a diesel here.
Here is a link to an article about the Cummins/Nissan diesel project Update 2: Cummins, Feds Developing Four-Cylinder Diesel for Nissan Titan - PickupTrucks.com News
jimmy
Another link http://cs.dogpile.com/ClickHandler....=2&ep=1&hash=72C98B5C69F6645E048D2C501B7B3484
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Jack_Berry
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If you look at the new Jetta as it goes by over half are diesels.
Yes sir Volkswagen has made a lot of diesel powered cars the last few years . Just wonder why them and not a US. manufacturer ?
Also Honda was supposedly designing a diesel engine for the Us. market and then dropped the idea .
Beginning to think Greg was right about politics playing a part in US. manufacturers not producing a small diesel engine.
jimmy
Also Honda was supposedly designing a diesel engine for the Us. market and then dropped the idea .
Beginning to think Greg was right about politics playing a part in US. manufacturers not producing a small diesel engine.
jimmy
greg334
Veteran Expediter
Well it is exactly what I said, the US manufacturer has a stake in the green market while the non-US manufacturer (VW, Mercedes and even BMW) does not.
They dropped it for the same reason they continued their LPG cars, the incentive for California buyers (a major market for Honda) are too great not to give the consumer what they want. They do have a Diesel for the EU market.
Well look around and see what company and supplier gets grants. I haven't mentioned the grants for Dana or Eaton on trucks but they are there.
interesting news still not a diesel van or small pickup but maybe a step in the right direction. Getting Ready: GM Ohio Plant Retools for Chevy Cruze Diesel - WOT on Motor Trend
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Jack_Berry
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Interestingly enough I saw a few Chrysler mini vans in Denmark with diesels under the hood. Noisier than my tdi.
greg334
Veteran Expediter
Those diesels that are used in the caravan (which is a slow thing to drive by the way) are the same ones that were used in the Jeep Liberty that they had here - 2.5/2.8 CRD diesel.
By the way two interesing things bout that jeep, the first one is in its EU form with a 5 speed and the 2.8 CRD, it averages about 35 mpg. The other thing is I have on my list of assembly/manufacturing joint ventures with Chrysler Iran's Pars Khodro company - I haven't confirmed it yet but it is likely that there is an agreement with them to build it.
Oh here is something that shows how backwards our thinking is on the issue of our cars, Iran has about 60% of their cars running on CNG, not gasoline. That's part of the little write up about Pars Khodro in my Chrysler booklet.
By the way two interesing things bout that jeep, the first one is in its EU form with a 5 speed and the 2.8 CRD, it averages about 35 mpg. The other thing is I have on my list of assembly/manufacturing joint ventures with Chrysler Iran's Pars Khodro company - I haven't confirmed it yet but it is likely that there is an agreement with them to build it.
Oh here is something that shows how backwards our thinking is on the issue of our cars, Iran has about 60% of their cars running on CNG, not gasoline. That's part of the little write up about Pars Khodro in my Chrysler booklet.