Legal rights

[guest]

Do we have any legal rights? ... a company can fire an O/O without any reason?

 

[JohnMueller]

Remus;

Check your lease agreement. Most allow either party (the O/O or the Company) to terminate the lease at any time, for any reason.

Thanks,
HotFr8Recruiter

 

[x06col]

Remus: I cannot imagine "without any reason". May have been really minor for you. So, was the person in question, "the weak link"?

 

[davekc]

As mentioned, the carrier terminated your lease. What company?








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[highway star]

That wording in the contract is for CYA purposes. I can't imagine someone's contract being terminated on a whim. Companies value competent and dependable O/Os. On the other hand, when they get stuck with a moron they can let him go without violating terms of the contract.

 

[guest]

Panther...they told me is better to live this company because of my acceptance..is 54%

 

[buckeyewildman]

i can fully understand letting a driver go with an acceptance rate that low maybe its just me but a rate that low sounds a little ridiculous i would fire my self for acceptance rate that low

 

[fastrod]

It should not matter what your acceptance rate is. If you are truely a indepentent contractor you should be able to take or refuse any amount of loads.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

And companies will put in their contracts that they can end the relationship if you don't kiss their butt. By putting that clause in the contract, they can do what they want for any reason. Just as you can end the contract because you don't like the color of your dispatcher's hair.

-Vampire Super Slooth Trucker!!!

 

[terryandrene]

Fastrod, you are correct as it applies to any independent contractor. You may refuse any percentage of loads over any period of time and you have the option to terminate your lease agreement with that carrier at any time. On the other hand, as was the case with Remus, his carrier opted out of their lease agreement as is their choice. No reason by either party is required.

 

[x06col]

Remus: Sounds fair to me.

 

[JohnO]

Another benefit being leased with Landstar Express there isn’t any tabulation of how many loads you accept or don’t the revenue you make or don’t is entirely up to you.

 

[x06col]

Try running 50% and see where you go, without a good reason. And, probably, with one.

 

[guest]

With Panther is different...If you are new there you start with 100% and get only good runs...but if you are from 2004 when dispatchers had their own trucks and you live in Detroit and the only runs you'll see are Canada's..and I start from the begining with low acceptance...and another thing is if you turn down a load your acceptance go down 4% if you take one you'll get 1%...this is not mathematics...this is a new method to force drivers to accept everything

 

[greg334]

I think that I said something about this in the FedEx post and this will sound cold, sorry.

You being a contractor are not hired, you are contracted.

Being contracted, the company is contracting you for a specific job and if they don’t want you for any reason, they can get rid of you.

Now with that said, I know some will say otherwise but the truth is the company can require you to maintain a level of performance regardless what anyone other than the company says.

It is your job to determine how to leverage your equipment to benefit the company, not the other way.

 

[miguy1957]

I to am with Panther and live in Michigan, In order to keep yourself above 50% you will have to dead head out of Michigan, I have sat at home and turned down 8-10 loads most with 50-60 miles deadhead for 100-150 or less loaded miles, mostly to Canada. Be honest, if you are at home would you take that kind of load??????? But I have taked to many drivers from michigan and thats just the norm, and have never heard of anyone getting their contract pulled for low accecptance.

________
Glass Bong

 

[Broompilot]

An Idependant Contractor wants RIGHTS! Your an Independant Contractor you can pick up and go as you please and that also means when your source of Revenue decides your a DEAD BEAT. Otherwise I doubt they would let you go.

Sorry to be so Blunt, but business is business, and one in business better be prepaired for this to happen. Otherwise one needs a job with the benefit of the state employment security behind them.

Remember Employment I said and your NOT AN EMPLOYEE your an individual contractor and a DISPOSABLE CONTRACTOR AT THAT.

ONLY FACTS IF THEY HURT OR ARE INSULTING than welcome to the Real World....

 

[Turtle]

Carriers, like Panther, need to have loads covered. Both good runs and bad runs. Those who sit back and cherry pick, accept only the 500+ mile runs, are, by and large, worthless to a carrier. If you have a 50% acceptance and it's a relatively even mix of long and short loads, they aren't likely to cancel your contact. But, if that 50% consists of almost all long loads, they don't want to mess with you. Sometimes, a 50 mile deadhead for 100 loaded will, in fact, get you to a place where the next load is a good one. You have to take that chance, instead of sitting at home and waiting for the cream of the crop to come knocking on your QC.

Slow and steady, even in expediting, wins the race - Aesop

 

[greg334]

Hate to be an a** about this, but for all you who live in Michigan and have trouble getting out, why don't you push to recall the governor and Levin?

I mean these two are the real failure of the state, Granholm is screwing the state up even more and Levin has yet to produce one job for the state - he has only been concern with Iraq.

Ok I'm done.

 

[davekc]

If I am not mistaken, if you take one short one, then they won't count the next short one as a refusal. Not really in MI that much so I am not sure how it is for folks who live there. 54 percent does sound pretty low. I am with the others, I would just DH out rather than just sitting there refusing load after load. 50 percent isn't really profitable for either one of you.









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