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tallcal101

Veteran Expediter
Greg,I've never logged on to moveon.org. never once,and that's the truth.I get no emails from the DRC,and would not open one if I got one.
I read a variety of newsapapers and magazines,and well as The Congressional Record on line every week. I know exactly who's showeing up and who's wasting time,and your money and mine.It's pretty evenly split between both parties. Check it out,it's enlightning.
Boy,it's OK for you guys to continue to bash Hillary and Bill,it's a favorite tune of yours. But how dare I bring up the good old days and I get 2 inch Red letters. Guess I won't do that again.
And I did warn you what you would be getting the second term,and you can't deny it.I can only think your so stuborn reason went out the window,or you really believed in Bush,which is even more scary!. Sucks to be you I guess,nothing personal of course so don't get your blood preasure up or your undies bunched.

I would really like to show up at the EXPO this year,and thats no cr*p.If I can arrange for a company paid trip to the vicinity for legit moving business I might do it. If you can guarrentee Leo won't irrigate me I'm gonna try.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Greg,I've never logged on to moveon.org. never once,and that's the truth.I get no emails from the DRC,and would not open one if I got one.
I read a variety of newsapapers and magazines,and well as The Congressional Record on line every week. I know exactly who's showeing up and who's wasting time,and your money and mine.It's pretty evenly split between both parties. Check it out,it's enlightning.
Boy,it's OK for you guys to continue to bash Hillary and Bill,it's a favorite tune of yours. But how dare I bring up the good old days and I get 2 inch Red letters. Guess I won't do that again.

Whew…. I thought you were one of them parrots that repeat everything they hear…. Like the girl I met this morning who had the peace signs and the Obama Messiah stickers all over her car, calling her kid Hussein and even have a Obama for God tee shirt (I sh*t you not). She looked like took everything to heart which is sad that she has no life what so ever and I paid her bill and wrote her a note –

Comrade,
Thanks for your support for Obama, Lenin will be so proud of you. Keep fighting the good fight, we will win in the end, we will change this horrible country for the proletariat.

Pass the word along Comrade, get people to vote for Obama, Lenin will be proud.

Yours truly,

Vladimir


Well Tallcal, what you are doing is only a part of what everyone should be doing but they ain’t because they don’t care. It seems that there are some fights between right/left – good/bad that always go on and people generally ignore it. Like in Michigan when we need real reforms, we need to oust this b*tch of a governor and we need to go to a part time legislation system like Nebraska’s, we are talking about reforms that are literally removing one party in the state and allowing another to run everything without checks and balances.

As for Bill’s time in office, well there has to be something said about it – it was not all that bad but a lot of it had nothing to do with him. Hillary on the other hand, I would have voted for her if she was the nominee, but Obama is too much of a Marxist for me to consider him. He reminds me of people I used to know who came over here from the Soviet Union, sure they were grateful to be here but they never got rid of that idea of Marxism.

AS for the big red letters, no apologies - I had to learn how the budget and the system works, it was through the GAO that these classes were offered, so I had no choice. What some think is an easy thing to grasp, forces many to give up trying. The budget projections were on track but stopped in 2000. The sad thing is that no one bothered to write the truth about what the projections meant and how they really impacted the budget.

And I did warn you what you would be getting the second term,and you can't deny it.I can only think your so stuborn reason went out the window,or you really believed in Bush,which is even more scary!. Sucks to be you I guess,nothing personal of course so don't get your blood preasure up or your undies bunched.

I would really like to show up at the EXPO this year,and thats no cr*p.If I can arrange for a company paid trip to the vicinity for legit moving business I might do it. If you can guarrentee Leo won't irrigate me I'm gonna try.

What I got in the second term was? The dems promised in the first 100 hours/days to do what? They didn’t get us out of the war, they didn’t impeach Bush, they didn’t raise taxes on the rich, they didn’t do much of anything and surprisingly since they have done less than the ’92 congress which passed two pieces of rather important legislation - a requirement that all agencies examine so-called unfunded mandates and a measure applying federal workplace laws to Congress.

What I did find in the second term is something new, they claimed to be a more ethical congress but they failed to investigate Reid for some underhanded realestate deals or anyone else for that matter. Are they actually doing anything?

As I said Tallcal, you want to impeach Bush, fine do it for a valid reason.

Opps there is one of them – not shutting down the borders and not defending them. I will be happy to drive to Washington to help you impeach him and anyone else who wants to give amnesty to people who have invaded our country and who want to keep the border open. But again that is….well…. congress buddy, including the dems.

You can’t have it both ways with these guys, if you want the Messiah in office because he represents new beginnings, then you have to have the same old congress who wants to destroy the country at the same time. Obama supports open borders which allows slavery to enter into this picture and if you want him in the position to set the tone for this country, than we will have a country just like England with the thought police judging us on what we can say or not say based entirely on the color of our skin. But again it sets the stage for real totalitarianism to rear it’s head into our political system.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
It seems on the political front, there is a lot of valid arguments, but they distract with the simplest of questions.
Since I was singled out, here is my question.
Energy policy............who has the best plan?
I don't want to hear what Bill did, or what GW could have done, it is a basic question.
Here is what I see.
Obama wants to tax the oil companies and expand alternative fuels. The latter will take years, and McCain is talking the same thing. Taxing "big oil" will only have those companies passing it through to the consumers, or.....suppliers like Venezuela who may sell cheaper. But...we are then just supporting a terrorist country.
With McCain I see drill now and build nuclear plants, and pay 300 mil for someone to come up with a small battery that can be used for hybrids etc.
Looks like McCain has a better plan.
Since I am not a political guru...........what am I missing?
 
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greg334

Veteran Expediter
Energy policy............who has the best plan?

Dave,
If you know the history of the energy policy in the US, you would be asking this;

Energy policy............why have one?

The real issue is once there is a policy, then there is regulations to control energy. We don't need a president who comes up with a plan but one who will make sure that the government stays out of the way.

Perfect example is nuke power. We have built them with old technology and had one real accident - three mile island. We produce the most power in the world with nuke power, 19% - safely. We now have tripled our knowledge of the power source and can use it 50 times more safely than we did with older reactors.

Until the government got into the picture 100% with an energy policy, the country responded to the needs of the people quickly, in months not years or decades. Just look around and ask why do we need one?
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
France produces more Nuke power than we do, based on a percentage used in thier country. They are closer too 30%. They have not had a real bad accident as yet either. They do a much better job with the spent fuel than we do. They have a national re-cyling plant for it. It is made into new fuel and re-used. We can take a page from them on that one. TMI was the best example of how well we build out plants. The containment buildings did the job they were designed to do. Not at all like what happen at Chernobyl. I used to be a volunteer fire fighter in PA, not far from TMI. We were a de-comtamintion site for both TMI and Peach Bottom. I had annual training from both plants. I was very impressed with the professional attitude of our trainers. They went into the TMI accident in great detail. I learned much. I also worked the Chernobyl thing when it happened, thanks to my "former" life. A prime example of how NOT to build nuke plants and how NOT to respond to a nuke accident. Layoutshooter

Liberalism = lazy
socialism = slavery

Defeat them both!!!

Vote all the bums out!!!
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
When does a Yale/Harvard educated female lawyer pulling in $250k relate with the mother in Pontiac Michigan on issues like educating kids and having to work hard for just above minimal wage all the while getting aid?

AND if you want to see what the nation will be like when Obama takes over, look at the city of Detroit and the state of Michigan, in all honesty you can not get a closer model of this type of management as you can with my state and the largest city in it.

Layout, according to several sources (EIA, NRC, GAO, Congressional reports), we produce the largest amount of power from nuke energy in the world, but percentage wise we use less than France for our needs. They are at more than 78% while we are less than 19%.
 
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layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Right Greg, That is what I was getting at, I just write goofy. I think faster than I type, that is, when I thinks I think. Layoutshooter
 
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