Never one to get out front on impending disasters, President Obama and Sec of State Hillary Clinton wag fingers at Syria's Assad. First we had unauthorized involvement in Libya, now after months of slaughter, it looks as though Syria could be next. Our president doesn't have a lucid policy on foreign or domestic issues. Why did he ask for this job? Perhaps, he wanted to be the anti-Dick( Dick Cheney). Can the world afford 16 more months of a US President on training wheels?
Leading from his behind, Obama lectures Syria
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EnglishLady
Veteran Expediter
Question: Can a President be voted out by his own party during his term and another member of that same party be voted in to carry on that term of office?
No. We are stuck with Obama for the full length of his term. In a parliamentary system, Obama would have been tossed out of power after last November's elections because his party failed to keep a majority of seats in Congress. A huge vote of no-confidence, if you will. However, under our system, he remains.
EnglishLady
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zack100
Active Expediter
There are only a few ways that a sitting US president can leave office.
1) Die in office
2) Resign
3) Impeached and removed from office.
Since 1841, over one-third of all American Presidents have either died in office, became disabled, or resigned. However, no American President has ever been forced from office due to impeachment. In fact, only four times in our history, has Congress held serious discussions of impeachment:
• Andrew Johnson was actually impeached when Congress became unhappy with the way he was dealing with some post-Civil War matters, but Johnson was acquitted in the Senate by one vote and remained in office.
• Congress introduced a resolution to impeach John Tyler over state's rights issues, but the resolution failed.
• Congress was debating his impeachment over the Watergate break-in when President Richard Nixon resigned.
• William J. Clinton was impeached by the House on charges of perjury and obstruction of justice in relationship to his affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky. Clinton was eventually acquitted by the Senate.
EnglishLady
Veteran Expediter
This is what the UK have ......
Confidence motion
The government needs to retain the confidence of a majority in the House of Commons. If the House votes to indicate that it has no confidence in the government, either by defeating the government on a confidence motion or by defeating a policy that the government has indicated is a 'matter of confidence' then the government would call a General Election
Confidence motion
The government needs to retain the confidence of a majority in the House of Commons. If the House votes to indicate that it has no confidence in the government, either by defeating the government on a confidence motion or by defeating a policy that the government has indicated is a 'matter of confidence' then the government would call a General Election
paullud
Veteran Expediter
This is what the UK have ......
Confidence motion
The government needs to retain the confidence of a majority in the House of Commons. If the House votes to indicate that it has no confidence in the government, either by defeating the government on a confidence motion or by defeating a policy that the government has indicated is a 'matter of confidence' then the government would call a General Election
I think we avoid that system here because of a cultural difference, we love our politics here and we would be more likely to have a no confidence vote every week due to congress being mixed. In England you love politics but the people are more likely to take it to the streets in protest to show their displeasure.
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EnglishLady
Veteran Expediter
The G'ment daren't tick off Joe Public cos they know they won't be voted in for another term .
The Confidence Vote isn't that often used .... last time was 1979
paullud
Veteran Expediter
There are states that use the no confidence vote, I believe California is one of them.
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tbubster
Seasoned Expediter
I think the more important question is really can America afford another 64 more months of Obama?
No, we cannot afford another day of Obama, but we are stuck with him.
He has NO business going on about Syria. I think he is just jealous. I believe that he would LOVE to have the power that the government in Syria does. I have no doubt in my mind that he would use that kind of force here to control the People if he could.
I have little doubt that, given the right circumstances, he would at least try to do so.
He has NO business going on about Syria. I think he is just jealous. I believe that he would LOVE to have the power that the government in Syria does. I have no doubt in my mind that he would use that kind of force here to control the People if he could.
I have little doubt that, given the right circumstances, he would at least try to do so.
greg334
Veteran Expediter
Sue, the best we can do is to tie up the president through our congress. The house, where a lot of finance things start at represents us, the people while the senate was supposed to represent the states but doesn't (17th amendment screwed that up). When a president commits a crime or something unethical, the house moves to impeach him and the senate votes to remove him.
We have impeached a lot of judges, even Supreme Court judges through the same process.
As for Obama, really Syria is a problem for Syria as much as Libya is a problem for Libya. I think we would still be in the same situation with Bush as we are with Obama.
AND yes we can afford having Obama for four more years, we just can't afford the same congress.
We have impeached a lot of judges, even Supreme Court judges through the same process.
As for Obama, really Syria is a problem for Syria as much as Libya is a problem for Libya. I think we would still be in the same situation with Bush as we are with Obama.
AND yes we can afford having Obama for four more years, we just can't afford the same congress.
There are MANY leaders out there, they are often just marginalized by the media. Our political landscape is dominated by those who buy our politicians. Like Dingell. What is the figure? 98% of his funding comes from out of state? I think that is the last number I read. This will continue as long as the "gimme people" get their freebies.
zack100
Active Expediter
The fact that Iran is an ally of Syria is equally unsettling.
Syria-Iran Foreign Relations | IranTracker
We are already fighting a proxy war with Iran on several fronts.
The media would ignore, ridicule or defame ANY REAL leader that would step up. I don't agree with you, period.
greg334
Veteran Expediter
Leaders do not use the media to lead, we have no one who has been doing any good to call themselves a leader and I don't see many in the business world who can actually be counted as one. I think our country isn't producing those who can step up to the task, inspire people to do hard work or take sacrifices and then step down when the task is done. Most if not all will look at it as a way to power and money.