Hahahahaha............
Brisco said:
One of these "quote-quote-quote" posts. Shows ignorance, but I'll play.
It's easier for me organize my response, sorry you take offense. Ignorance... Okay if you say so. Responding in the manner I did allows me to Focus on the post instead of the poster.
Said he applied Wednesday, was hired Thursday. Any "Fleet Owner" should do at least the "10 year history" that DOT requires.
Yep, I agree, and sometimes when looking at the employment history it's easy to see that checking by a F/O (Fleet Owner) will be fruitless. That's when all they can do is allow the Carrier to check it out. Examples are Government worker, self employed, retired military, legal and illegal aliens.
Brisco said:
You've obviously never worked in any "Human Resources" enviroment
You know what they say about assuming, this is a case of/for that saying.
Brisco said:
or in any sort of "Safety Officer" role.
Well you are correct, close as I ever got with that was as a Fleet Manager.
Brisco said:
If so, you'd know that it's just about impossible to verify 10 years worth of history within a 24 hour period, even if the applicant worked 1 job for 25 years.
It has been my
experience that its very hard to get any information other than dates employed from any company that has an Attorney or has been advised by one. This has been the case for a good fifteen years because of our litigious society. With email, fax and phone you can get some amazing things done in 24 hours. (especially when my pay depends on it)
Brisco said:
Could also be the next driver that leaves the truck in Spokane Washington after a phone call telling the Fleet Owner "I Quit!!"
Guess we're both speculating on this issue.
But I didn't speculate, nor make a judgement one way or the other. But will agree that he might very well turn out to be less than desirable.
Brisco said:
Reference point my friend. Look it up if you can't comprehend where that may lead to in the overall discussion.
If you mean refering back to your "
War and Peace" Novel
It simply states that you
say you have run most of your trucking career as a Hotshoter. Although my comprehension skills are normally up to the task, I fail to
see your point. (but hey, I have had a very traumatic head injury)
Panther ran a little "2 line ad" in the local paper. I answered ad. Panther sent out a 20 page application. Panther asked for the 10 year history. Was working at that time. I cross every T and dot every I in everything I do. Application looked professional, I answered professionally.
Brisco said:
I bet if I sit with you and inquire about your past 10 years and requested a lot of information, you'd probably have to get back to me on one thing or another.
Yes if you wanted to know what perfume the receptionist had on you would be absolutely correct. Or if you wanted me to confirm the mailing address of an employer, you would be close to correct (thank-you iPhone) It's called being
organized In order to be able to implement a plan 'B' as quickly as possible, it pays to at minimum keep your
curriculum vitae up to date.
Brisco said:
Why would Panther schedule ANYONE for orientation unless they met certain criteria??? I mean, it would be a waste of both the applicants and Panthers time and money to schedule ANY APPLICANT for orientation if the applicant was not qualified.
I didn't say they do. I said they check to see if you meet the minimum standards, they also check to see if your application is complete. (one of the minimum standards) Depending on the Company and the recruiter, they
might spend the $100.00 dollars to pull your driving record, and criminal background before scheduling you for orientation. This is why you see so many applicants leave the first day of orientation, drivers
forgot about the ten years in prison they spent for vehicular homicide. They go by what the applicant says, once they schedule them they spend the money. Recruiters are 'graded' by how many and how much.
Brisco said:
(BTW - It's "you're", not your.)
Well thanks, I'm always open to helpful corrections. Grammar, and spelling are but two of my many weak points.
Brisco said:
If they (Panther) had done any sort of "background check" before THEY called ME back, then they would've known nothing was being hidden.
Good, they would only have wasted a $100.00 on a won't-be. Or if you prefer "didn't-be"
Brisco said:
Wannabe?? Sure. Could Be?? Of course. Won't Be?? That was either one of our decisions to be made. The recruiter must've had a good feeling about me, he called me more times than I called him.
Try to keep in mind that recruiters normally get paid only when they successfully recruit someone who stays for a period of time. If he spent time with you he naturally hopes it was not a waste of his time, kinda like a dry run, but without the dry run pay. Called
Brisco said:
My Bluff??? Can't recall any "bluff" being called back then. But again, that was 10 years ago.
Call it what you will I guess the old saying of "
or get off the pot" comes to mind.
Brisco said:
But, I had recruiter "recruiting" me with promises of $80K-$100K a year just driving a "Cargo Van" all over the country. I had already been down the road with a local "Courier" service that made similar promises
I didn't hear the conversation, but are you sure he
promised, if they did promise you that much which one was it 80K or 100K?
Brisco said:
So, I was skeptical and did my due dilligence in finding out exactly what "Expediting" was all about.
Reading only gets you so far, but you became an expert?
Brisco said:
Panther had a map up on their old website that showed what states they covered. I believe they only had customers in 10 states then and the closest the map got to Texas was Kansas I believe.
So much for the expert thingy. That was a map of their
Primary area. I doubt that they were listing where their customers were. Or did the map provide that as well?
So, I put 2 and 2 together
So math might not be you're (hope I used it correctly
) strong point.
and realized that "Expediting" is just another word for "Courier".
If you say so, it must be.
The only difference I found is that one runs locally (within the city) and the other runs OTR (city to city)
Kind of a big difference isn't it?
and all this recruiter was looking for was just drivers with vans who also have a "pulse" to stick out there to bolster his companies portfolio that they submit to their customers.
Well they really are trying to get enough drivers to be able to fulfill their customers expectations.
That made my decision to hold off on "expediting" then.
So you became an overnight expert (one who knows all there is to know, Your words not mine)
But Hey!! I'm still interested in the industry. Fault me for that???
Why, you have said we are fools for running at 20% of what you currently make.
"Seasoned Knowledgable Expediter"?? What's so hard about the "Expediting Industry"??
Not a thing, even a caveman can do it.
It's just another entity of the trucking industry.
I agree, with its own quirks, and problems and solutions.
Yes, I have been out there on the road for years, just not in Expediting.
So?
Do you not agree that this board is the utmost respected board on the internet for people that want to learn everything they can about Expediting?
Well I sure do! Everything they can
does not translate to "know everything there is to know".
I believe you just "dissssed" this board without even realizing it.
No I didn't, but good try to get me to be defensive.
I bet there are hundreds of Expediters out there that have learned 70-80-90% of what they know about Expediting right here on this board.
I totally agree. Shame that when you learned and you
"did my due dilligence in finding out exactly what "Expediting" was all about." that your comprehension level was 50%
people (members) "Beat Their Chest" to the tune of "EO is the place to learn about Expediting!!!" And you deny them the credit they're due? How shameful.
This site is a great place to come and learn about expediting because for years many members will give advice and tips on the
ins and outs of this industry.
Shameful, nope.
Yes, I have met quite a few of you guys out there on the road. I even bought lunch for a FedX CC CV Driver one day while his truck was in the shop. Spent a good 3 hours with that ole' fogey.
Did you also stay at a Holiday Inn?
Yep, believe it or not. Many days I wish that I was out there on the road with you guys. Sorry that chaps your ...
It doesn't.
Maybe that was said out of context.
Do you mean you didn't really write that or you didn't mean it or...
But sometimes I do wonder why you guys run under the rates you do.
Me too.
Run under the contracts you run under.
Well when you decide to run for a Carrier it's pretty much their game and their rules.
(Nightcreachers problem with FEDX right now) Et Cetera............
Well if I read night's posts correctly he was credited with three preventable accidents in a three year span, whether he deserved that or not is not for us to decide.
What else you got for me Son?
Last I checked my Father has been in the grave for close to 14 years. I doubt that you are old enough, or so much wiser than I to use that term with me. But if it makes you feel superior go for it.
