RLENT
Veteran Expediter
You have things somewhat confused here OVM ...... rights vs. privileges ...
One does not give someone a right ...... one can be granted a privilege however .....
Justic and Truth, FINALLY!!
- Thread starter layoutshooter
- Start date
One does not give someone a right ...... one can be granted a privilege however .....
RLENT
Veteran Expediter
Layout,
This is going to be a fairly short reply, since I still have miles and miles to go before Monday morning .... I may try to respond further later if I get the chance.
(...... whodathunkit ? )
BTW, have you heard the latest ?
Wikileaks posted a 1.4 gigabyte file (which is huge, if the file contains mostly textual data) .... as an "insurance policy" to ensure that the US government (or it's minions) doesn't screw with Wikileaks ....
This will no doubt be mirrored and/or cached on multiple servers throughout the world .... so that even if Wiki's own servers were taken down, it would be functionally impossible to make it "disappear" and get rid of it .....
It is encrypted with a very high level of encryption (AES256) - which will likely make it uncrackable, even by the NSA .....
Should the US attempt to target Wikileaks, or it's principals, the password/public key to open the file and view the contents will probably be released publicly ...
This new file may contain video showing a deadly 2009 US firefight near the Garani village in Afghanistan, that Bradley Manning says he gave to Wikileaks ...... that local authorities say killed over 100 civilians, most of them children ....
Wikileaks Insurance File Link
This is going to be a fairly short reply, since I still have miles and miles to go before Monday morning .... I may try to respond further later if I get the chance.
Yup
(...... whodathunkit ? ).... most likely ....
That would probably be a good bet .....
BTW, have you heard the latest ?
Wikileaks posted a 1.4 gigabyte file (which is huge, if the file contains mostly textual data) .... as an "insurance policy" to ensure that the US government (or it's minions) doesn't screw with Wikileaks ....
This will no doubt be mirrored and/or cached on multiple servers throughout the world .... so that even if Wiki's own servers were taken down, it would be functionally impossible to make it "disappear" and get rid of it .....
It is encrypted with a very high level of encryption (AES256) - which will likely make it uncrackable, even by the NSA .....
Should the US attempt to target Wikileaks, or it's principals, the password/public key to open the file and view the contents will probably be released publicly ...
This new file may contain video showing a deadly 2009 US firefight near the Garani village in Afghanistan, that Bradley Manning says he gave to Wikileaks ...... that local authorities say killed over 100 civilians, most of them children ....
Wikileaks Insurance File Link
Last edited:
Wikileaks has servers in dozens of countries, so even attempting to shut down their server would be a waste of time, and would only play into Wikileaks' hands, solidifying their "underdog" or "David versus Goliath" position.
The NSA likely isn't even wasting their considerable supercomputing power on this, since they and everyone else knows the documents will eventually be released, anyway. The posting of an encrypted file named "insurance" is all part of the childish game of someone sticking their tongue out at the US. They'll play that one for all it's worth, and then when publicity is high enough (or begins to drop off, so as to boost it again), or when they get enough donations from people who want to support them, they'll simply release the documents that are contained within the encrypted file. If Wiki was really and truly all about what they say they are all about, they'd have already released all of he documents, rather than trying to squeeze publicity out of it.
They aren't at all likely to release the password, as that would give the NSA and others an uber-huge advantage to use with future encryption issues, since knowing the password will tell the NSA the manner in which it was generated, which could cut the time required to break future encryptions down to hours rather than 3 times the age of the universe. If the password were to be released, then it's a safe bet that the same encryption method would never again be used by Wikileaks.
The owner of Wikileaks is Australian, not a US citizen, and has no fixed address, so none of the US laws, or threats, apply to him in any way. He knows it, and so does the US government.
The NSA likely isn't even wasting their considerable supercomputing power on this, since they and everyone else knows the documents will eventually be released, anyway. The posting of an encrypted file named "insurance" is all part of the childish game of someone sticking their tongue out at the US. They'll play that one for all it's worth, and then when publicity is high enough (or begins to drop off, so as to boost it again), or when they get enough donations from people who want to support them, they'll simply release the documents that are contained within the encrypted file. If Wiki was really and truly all about what they say they are all about, they'd have already released all of he documents, rather than trying to squeeze publicity out of it.
They aren't at all likely to release the password, as that would give the NSA and others an uber-huge advantage to use with future encryption issues, since knowing the password will tell the NSA the manner in which it was generated, which could cut the time required to break future encryptions down to hours rather than 3 times the age of the universe. If the password were to be released, then it's a safe bet that the same encryption method would never again be used by Wikileaks.
The owner of Wikileaks is Australian, not a US citizen, and has no fixed address, so none of the US laws, or threats, apply to him in any way. He knows it, and so does the US government.
greg334
Veteran Expediter
Issue would not be with the wikileaks owner or staff, that may or may not be an issue for others but the soldier who released the information without a doubt should pay for it and pay with this life.
I think maybe this is what the idea of treason could be - releasing classified information that could aid the enemy during war time.
BUT the press and the public may not agree. There may be an outcry to 'save' this guy and as I already heard, should be considered a hero.
The question seems to be is our government that bad that we the people can consider this a hero's action while we are fighting a nasty war that we never seen before?
I think maybe this is what the idea of treason could be - releasing classified information that could aid the enemy during war time.
BUT the press and the public may not agree. There may be an outcry to 'save' this guy and as I already heard, should be considered a hero.
The question seems to be is our government that bad that we the people can consider this a hero's action while we are fighting a nasty war that we never seen before?