Jon Huntsman Jr

layoutshooter

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The one that pops up is David Gergen but Sam Beard also seems to fit the bill.


Nope, but it is good to see I am waking up some imaginations!!

Need another clue?

Glad to see a couple are wanting to play. We a nation to do the same. This IS important.
 

layoutshooter

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What's important?

Guessing?

Nope, thinking outside the box of the norm.

Most in here have at least an idea, what type of person I would like to see as president.

Obama, Carter or Clinton are not him/she or it.

It would be a combination of ideas. Maybe of speeches. Maybe a few of Kennedy and Reagan and MAYBE Truman.

Only not the idea. Not only the words. But a life that was driven by the ideal. Someone who served. Was willing to risk, his/her or it's life, and did.

A person who's character was such that he/she or it could pass the same background check that an intelligence agent could.
Who had NO ties to enemies of our way of life.

A person who has, not only the respect of his,hers or it's peers but the respect of his superiors, those who he commands and his enemies.
 

greg334

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But Layout, the thing is I and many others do not want people who were connected to Washington to run for president. Speaking as a part of WE, we don't want someone who has the respect of anyone other than the people. It doesn't matter if they served in the military, knew Reagan or had dinner with Nixon's dog. What matters is that the person is not going to comprimise themselves to get things done and I do NOT see anyone outside of a few young tea party members who are there to change things, not build a reelection war chest.

Like I said, the republicans have very little with the names being mentioned and unless they get their sh*t together within a couple months, the election will be Obama's and only Obama's.
 

cheri1122

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Oh, Witness, you just have little understanding of my sense of humor. Maybe it is to "British" for you. Just tryin to have to fun with this politics stuff.

I'll cop to having NO understanding of your sense of humor - but I do know British humour, from Bryson to Wodehouse, and that aint remotely like it.
 

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But Layout, the thing is I and many others do not want people who were connected to Washington to run for president. Speaking as a part of WE, we don't want someone who has the respect of anyone other than the people. It doesn't matter if they served in the military, knew Reagan or had dinner with Nixon's dog. What matters is that the person is not going to comprimise themselves to get things done and I do NOT see anyone outside of a few young tea party members who are there to change things, not build a reelection war chest.

Like I said, the republicans have very little with the names being mentioned and unless they get their sh*t together within a couple months, the election will be Obama's and only Obama's.

NOT connected to Washington. Served the People. BIG difference.
 

layoutshooter

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Oh, Witness, you just have little understanding of my sense of humor. Maybe it is to "British" for you. Just tryin to have to fun with this politics stuff.

I'll cop to having NO understanding of your sense of humor - but I do know British humour, from Bryson to Wodehouse, and that aint remotely like it.

Well, I lived in England for 5 years. I would be willing to bet that most Brits would understand.

There is far more to British humor than those you site. You know only one TINY bit of it.

I know because I was immersed in it.

Why is it you are always personal?

Is that needed?
 

cheri1122

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Well, I lived in England for 5 years. I would be willing to bet that most Brits would understand.
You could live somewhere for 100 years and not learn or know much about it .But your 'humour' isn't ****ney, or Yorkshire Dales, or [snort] Mayfair, either - so which Brits do you think would understand it?

There is far more to British humor than those you site. You know only one TINY bit of it.
Telling people what they know is guaranteed to tick them off - how would YOU know how much I know?

I know because I was immersed in it.
One can be immersed without absorbing - they are not synonymous.

Why is it you are always personal?
Why are you always telling folks what they don't know?

Is that needed?
Only when your statement is one I believe to be incorrect.
 

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Well, I lived in England for 5 years. I would be willing to bet that most Brits would understand.
You could live somewhere for 100 years and not learn or know much about it .But your 'humour' isn't ****ney, or Yorkshire Dales, or [snort] Mayfair, either - so which Brits do you think would understand it?

There is far more to British humor than those you site. You know only one TINY bit of it.
Telling people what they know is guaranteed to tick them off - how would YOU know how much I know?

I know because I was immersed in it.
One can be immersed without absorbing - they are not synonymous.

Why is it you are always personal?
Why are you always telling folks what they don't know?

Is that needed?
Only when your statement is one I believe to be incorrect.


I guess US humor is only Skelton, Carlin (SP?) or some of those foul mouthed pigs out there today? I assume that there is NOT any LOCAL humor here.

Why are you always telling me what I don't know? Is your life experience the same as mine? I doubt it, since few ever have experiences that would lead to the same ideas. Why are you always personal?

Did I tell someone that they did not understand my humor or did I SUGGEST that they did not because it is based on humor NOT normal to this country?



Maybe a doctor could fix your snort.

Why are you always telling people things that they don't know?
 

cheri1122

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I guess US humor is only Skelton, Carlin (SP?) or some of those foul mouthed pigs out there today? I assume that there is NOT any LOCAL humor here.

The US doesn't have a national humor, we're too young and diverse.

Why are you always telling me what I don't know? Is your life experience the same as mine? I doubt it, since few ever have experiences that would lead to the same ideas. Why are you always personal?

Back up there, Jack: I never told you what you know - I said your humour, whatever it is, isn't British. You're the one who tells folks what they know, as in "You know only a little bit" [to me] and "You don't know" to Witness, just in this thread.

Did I tell someone that they did not understand my humor or did I SUGGEST that they did not because it is based on humor NOT normal to this country?
Either way, you attributed it to something I'm very familiar with, and I didn't recognize it either.



Maybe a doctor could fix your snort.
:rolleyes:

Why are you always telling people things that they don't know?
Please reread the paragraph beginning with "Back up" - same answer. I have never challenged your statements when I wasn't sure whether you were wrong about something, so why do you say "always"?

 

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England, and the British Isles in general have a society much older than ours.

Their humor, however, is just as diverse or more so than ours. The regions there are almost different countries. They often have their own language. Far more different than our different dialects that we have here.

There is really no such thing as British Humor so to speak.

I got along quiet well over there, as I do here. In REAL life that is.

This forum is NOT real life. Therefore it really does not matter.
 

cheri1122

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England, and the British Isles in general have a society much older than ours.

Ya think? :rolleyes:

Their humor, however, is just as diverse or more so than ours. The regions there are almost different countries.

The British Isles, in general, ARE different countries; England [and Northern Ireland], The Republic of Ireland, Scotland, Wales, and the islands.
They often have their own language. Far more different than our different dialects that we have here.
Again: :rolleyes:

There is really no such thing as British Humor so to speak.

Wait a minute - first you claimed to have it, now you say there is no such thing?! How can this be?
But there is, most definitely, a British humour.


I got along quiet well over there, as I do here. In REAL life that is.

This forum is NOT real life. Therefore it really does not matter.
Aaaah - so you can say anything at all, and contradict it 5 minutes later, and no one should care, because it is NOT real life - is that what you're saying?
And [I know I'm gonna regret this, but] what IS real life?
 

layoutshooter

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England, and the British Isles in general have a society much older than ours.

Ya think? :rolleyes:

Their humor, however, is just as diverse or more so than ours. The regions there are almost different countries.

The British Isles, in general, ARE different countries; England [and Northern Ireland], The Republic of Ireland, Scotland, Wales, and the islands.
They often have their own language. Far more different than our different dialects that we have here.
Again: :rolleyes:

There is really no such thing as British Humor so to speak.

Wait a minute - first you claimed to have it, now you say there is no such thing?! How can this be?
But there is, most definitely, a British humour.


I got along quiet well over there, as I do here. In REAL life that is.

This forum is NOT real life. Therefore it really does not matter.
Aaaah - so you can say anything at all, and contradict it 5 minutes later, and no one should care, because it is NOT real life - is that what you're saying?
And [I know I'm gonna regret this, but] what IS real life?

I was not speaking of the real countries of Scotland, England, Wales, etc. I was speaking down to county level. There are different languages from one county to the next. Not just accents, or slang, different languages. Even parts of London come close to meeting that idea.

I could speak Yorkshire fairly well at one time. (no longer, I have not used it since I lived there) I could NOT get along language wise if I was up in Kelso, Scotland. I did OK up around Aberdeen, near Peter Culter. I spent more time there. Sorry you have no real idea just how different the languages are between counties or regions there. It is nothing like what we have here. You will find the same thing between southern and norther Japan, maybe not as distinct but far more different that what we have here.

What is REAL life? Human beings interacting face to face on a personal basis. This forum, or any thing like it, does not meet that standard.
 

cheri1122

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What is REAL life? Human beings interacting face to face on a personal basis. This forum, or any thing like it, does not meet that standard.
Even though I enjoy messing with your head, watching you duck and weave and change the subject to avoid answering questions, I would hate to see you in any actual trouble, ok?
The reality is that what you say on this [or any other] forum IS real life, and comments you make can come back to bite you, someday. You may not think your comments on "putting people through a chipper" or shooting a LEO who enters your home without permission are to be taken seriously, but you have to know that others might just see it differently....
What you see as the funny papers, others see as reality, and you might find their questions a bit harder to dodge than you manage here.
Just sayin....
 

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The thing about humor is the majority of people even if they do not see it as funny will still recognize it as an attempt at humor.
 

layoutshooter

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What is REAL life? Human beings interacting face to face on a personal basis. This forum, or any thing like it, does not meet that standard.
Even though I enjoy messing with your head, watching you duck and weave and change the subject to avoid answering questions, I would hate to see you in any actual trouble, ok?
The reality is that what you say on this [or any other] forum IS real life, and comments you make can come back to bite you, someday. You may not think your comments on "putting people through a chipper" or shooting a LEO who enters your home without permission are to be taken seriously, but you have to know that others might just see it differently....
What you see as the funny papers, others see as reality, and you might find their questions a bit harder to dodge than you manage here.
Just sayin....

I think I can take care of my self. Have been for over 60 years. I do thank you for your concern.

No LEO is in danger from me unless he attacks my house. All people have a right to defend their home. The police do not get special leave to break and enter. I choose not to be a victim no matter who is breaking in.

Reality is face to face in my world. It is more than possible that many in here, those who none of us have ever seen, just may not be who or what they claim. There are many on the internet who fake gender etc. There are paid posters. I do believe that most in here are "real". We both have met many who "reside" in EO. I know you are real. Again, there is a LOT of "give and take" that is more for fun than anything in here.
 

cheri1122

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The thing about humor is the majority of people even if they do not see it as funny will still recognize it as an attempt at humor.

Absolutely - what I took exception to, though, was the assertion that the humour was "too British" to be understood, not whether I thought it was funny or not. And I knew going in that the reply would be all over the place - sometimes, that's MY idea of 'having fun'. :D
 

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Jobs cannot be "created" by the government. NOT a Federal government issue beyond them getting out of the way of expansion.

Didn't say they could or couldn't. I would like to hear from a candidate what they would do about the jobs situation, either get out of the way, be more involved, or just go with the status quo. I'm not sure if anyone in the Soapbox would agree that the Government should, or can, create jobs. The Government, among many other outside influences are a factors though, like it or not.

Health care is not a Federal Government issue other than getting out of the way of the solutions.

Well, it is now with Obamacare. Again, like it or not it is something that needs to be addressed by a candidate. Such as, are you for or against Obamacare, will you do away with it, will you tweak it, will you add to it, etc., etc.....Also, healthcare issues include Medicare and Medicade, and again, like it or not they are issues that have to be talked about.

The economy is tanking because of the actions of the Federal government over the last 100 years or so.

They definately have contributed to some of the things that are going on today. Me, personally, I would like to hear from a candidate on what actions they plan on taking to change things or not change things.

You have NO idea what people are listening too either. You only THINK you know how other think.

I can only go by what is posted, linked, referenced and said here in the Soapbox. With that being said, I would have to disagree, I think I have a pretty good idea.

= Come on, I am working to draft a GOOD candidate. We think we can convince him to run. Waiting on your guess. Greg's too. Ragman played. Of course Ragman has a sense of humor. :p

Not really into playing your games, sorry. Here's a thought, wouldn't you want people to know who you are talking about, so then maybe, they could throw in their support behind that person?
 
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