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aristotle

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If the GOP cannot defeat Barack Hussein Obama, it has no business operating as a national party. I simply cannot fathom how Obama is leading in Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina and Florida. Has some kind of mass hypnosis swept over our nation such that we are eager to embrace socialism? We have a clear choice between a socialist and a capitalist. Shouldn't even be a close call.
 

davekc

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If the GOP cannot defeat Barack Hussein Obama, it has no business operating as a national party. I simply cannot fathom how Obama is leading in Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina and Florida. Has some kind of mass hypnosis swept over our nation such that we are eager to embrace socialism? We have a clear choice between a socialist and a capitalist. Shouldn't even be a close call.

No...the hard reality is many prefer a socialist state. That is why the polls show what they do. You have a total failure in the White House yet you have droves defending him because he has more to give as soon as he gets it from the ones who are paying the Federal income tax.
 

aristotle

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The United States fought a 40-year Cold War against the USSR (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) to contain and prevent socialism from taking root in the political stucture of our country. Notice the key word in the acronym USSR is "Socialist." Socialism is the midwife and happy face of communism in all its variant forms.

It happens all too frequently during periods of economic turmoil that the seductive call of soft-pedaled socialism finds a receptive audience. Redistribution of wealth and income. Central planning from government. An infantile reliance on government for food, shelter, medicine and a monthly check in the mail. Buy into such a philosophy, and pretty soon, the socialists are directing every facet of life. What the Kremlin couldn't achieve in 40 years is being ushered in on a silver platter in the Age of Obama.

The audacity of hope. Hope and change. Yes, we can! Every revolution needs a few catchy slogans.
 

OntarioVanMan

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If the GOP cannot defeat Barack Hussein Obama, it has no business operating as a national party. I simply cannot fathom how Obama is leading in Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina and Florida. Has some kind of mass hypnosis swept over our nation such that we are eager to embrace socialism? We have a clear choice between a socialist and a capitalist. Shouldn't even be a close call.

That is what I've said all along....you type of guys are in the minority...How else could Obama be leading after the last 4 years......the old ways are disappearing....Can't say anything about the hope.....but change is happening...IMO..IF Obama wins another 4 yrs....America will be at a point where nothing but short of a civil war could bring her back to the upright position.
 

layoutshooter

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I MIGHT agree if the vote was real. There is going to be a LOT of illegal voting going on this year. The Marxists are fighting tooth and nail to insure that illegal people get to vote.
 

OntarioVanMan

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I MIGHT agree if the vote was real. There is going to be a LOT of illegal voting going on this year. The Marxists are fighting tooth and nail to insure that illegal people get to vote.

whether I believe the assumptions that illegals are voting....in numbers enough to make a difference....you are still screwed...
 

layoutshooter

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yeah...she might end up Living like a Canadian...you know how bad they have it up there.....such an unhappy and tortured people......LOL

No, not like Canada, more like Soviet Russia. Obama is a Marxist and will act like one once he has consolidated his power. From government murders in the night to gulags, Obama will show his TRUE colors soon.
 

OntarioVanMan

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No, not like Canada, more like Soviet Russia. Obama is a Marxist and will act like one once he has consolidated his power. From government murders in the night to gulags, Obama will show his TRUE colors soon.

that seems rather extreme to me.....

me thinks some are in denial....that real Americans would vote for this guy, all these stories of the dead voting, illegals voting....I have no doubt it happens....but to make a difference.....no one has ever shown the number of dead/illegal votes actually cast....where is the investigation, where are the numbers?....
 

layoutshooter

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that seems rather extreme to me.....

me thinks some are in denial....that real Americans would vote for this guy, all these stories of the dead voting, illegals voting....I have no doubt it happens....but to make a difference.....no one has ever shown the number of dead/illegal votes actually cast....where is the investigation, where are the numbers?....

Why would the government investigate? ALL in government benefit from it. IF it were not substantial they would not be fighting SO hard to stop the states from insuring that everyone who votes is legal to do so?

Obama will not be able to do as he wishes without the use of force. He will use it. That is just ONE of the reasons the military is being gutted. That is the primary reason he is SO big on gun control. Private arms ownership is the ultimate check in the check and balance system. It was put in place to insure that the government would be kept in control of the People. As long as the American People can fight back his power in threatened.
 

OntarioVanMan

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Why would the government investigate? ALL in government benefit from it. IF it were not substantial they would not be fighting SO hard to stop the states from insuring that everyone who votes is legal to do so?

Obama will not be able to do as he wishes without the use of force. He will use it. That is just ONE of the reasons the military is being gutted. That is the primary reason he is SO big on gun control. Private arms ownership is the ultimate check in the check and balance system. It was put in place to insure that the government would be kept in control of the People. As long as the American People can fight back his power in threatened.

so the states are in on this too?.....
 

layoutshooter

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Several States are fighting to purge the voter roles of dead and illegal voters, the Obama administration is fighting them. SOME parts of Michigan are trying to insure a fair vote while other, more Obama friendly areas, are not requiring citizenship questions on registration forms. Like Oakland County.
 

Tennesseahawk

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Why would the government investigate? ALL in government benefit from it. IF it were not substantial they would not be fighting SO hard to stop the states from insuring that everyone who votes is legal to do so?

Obama will not be able to do as he wishes without the use of force. He will use it. That is just ONE of the reasons the military is being gutted. That is the primary reason he is SO big on gun control. Private arms ownership is the ultimate check in the check and balance system. It was put in place to insure that the government would be kept in control of the People. As long as the American People can fight back his power in threatened.


Which is exactly why some believe a Ron Paul victory was doomed from the start. NO ONE, Democrats especially, would benefit from a Libertarian being the Republican nominee. Government, itself, would be shrunk. We go from pumped up, enthusiastic voters by the tens of thousands, to a lack-luster bunch of lost-all-hopes from the Republican party. I hardly see how one beats the other, especially when the other was drawing numbers from the liberals... UNLESS you don't rule out shenanigans. As I said... no one had an interest to investigate. No one with power, that is.
 

layoutshooter

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Which is exactly why some believe a Ron Paul victory was doomed from the start. NO ONE, Democrats especially, would benefit from a Libertarian being the Republican nominee. Government, itself, would be shrunk. We go from pumped up, enthusiastic voters by the tens of thousands, to a lack-luster bunch of lost-all-hopes from the Republican party. I hardly see how one beats the other, especially when the other was drawing numbers from the liberals... UNLESS you don't rule out shenanigans. As I said... no one had an interest to investigate. No one with power, that is.

Ron Paul lost because he was Ron Paul. He could not put his message out to enough people. He was/is a lousy campaigner. Romney has now taken his place. He too is a lousy campaigner. That is why he was chosen. To lose.
 

Tennesseahawk

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Ron Paul lost because he was Ron Paul. He could not put his message out to enough people. He was/is a lousy campaigner. Romney has now taken his place. He too is a lousy campaigner. That is why he was chosen. To lose.

Packed stadiums vs empty theaters. You keep believing that.
 

layoutshooter

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Packed stadiums vs empty theaters. You keep believing that.


Yep, but he was BORING and that is why he lost. No point in hashing this over again anyway. Romney is doing he dog gone best to assist Obama in this election just as McCain did last time.
 
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