Exactly!!!
Jailed for a 5 cent theft
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letzrockexpress
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You can bet that all of them are at one time or another.
letzrockexpress
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That is EXACTLY what I was thinking Jimby. Lots of glass house dwellers here.
I have never charged my phone, or laptop, at an outlet that was not provided for that reason. Many places provide that service as a draw to bring in customers. Even when there is provided power I rarely use it. I keep my devices charged in the truck. I seldom take my laptop out of the truck, unless it is into a motel for a weekend.
I would NEVER even dream that just because I owned an electric car that I was some how entitled to free power. The guy is a thief and a moocher.
letzrockexpress
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Squeegee or paper towel?
letzrockexpress
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I get a kick out of how threads like this bring out the saint in people.
Yeah, one in particular!
WanderngFool
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A little more to the story... the police statement:
We received a 911 call advising that someone was plugged into the power outlet behind the middle school. The responding officer located the vehicle in the rear of the building at the kitchen loading dock up against the wall with a cord run to an outlet. The officer spent some time trying to determine whose vehicle it was. It was unlocked and he eventually began looking through the interior after verifying it did not belong to the school system.
The officer, his marked patrol vehicle and the electric vehicle were all in clear view of the tennis courts. Eventually, a man on the courts told the officer that the man playing tennis with him owned the vehicle. The officer went to the courts and interviewed the vehicle owner. The officer's initial incident report gives a good indication of how difficult and argumentative the individual was to deal with. He made no attempt to apologize or simply say oops and he wouldn't do it again. Instead he continued being argumentative, acknowledged he did not have permission and then accused the officer of having damaged his car door. The officer told him that was not true and that the vehicle and existing damage was already on his vehicles video camera from when he drove up.
Given the uncooperative attitude and accusations of damage to his vehicle, the officer chose to document the incident on an incident report. The report was listed as misdemeanor theft by taking. The officer had no way of knowing how much power had been consumed, how much it cost nor how long it had been charging.
The report made its way to Sgt Ford's desk for a follow up investigation. He contacted the middle school and inquired of several administrative personnel whether the individual had permission to use power. He was advised no. Sgt. Ford showed a photo to the school resource officer who recognized Mr. Kamooneh. Sgt Ford was further advised that Mr. Kamooneh had previously been advised he was not allowed on the school tennis courts without permission from the school . This was apparently due to his interfering with the use of the tennis courts previously during school hours.
Based upon the totality of these circumstances and without any expert advice on the amount of electricity that may have been used, Sgt Ford signed a theft warrant. The warrant was turned over to the DeKalb Sheriffs Dept for service because the individual lived in Decatur, not Chamblee. This is why he was arrested at a later time.
I am sure that Sgt. Ford was feeling defensive when he said a theft is a theft and he would do it again. Ultimately, Sgt. Ford did make the decision to pursue the theft charges, but the decision was based on Mr. Kamooneh having been advised that he was not allowed on the property without permission. Had he complied with that notice none of this would have occurred. Mr. Kamooneh's son is not a student at the middle school and he was not the one playing tennis. Mr. Kamooneh was taking lessons himself.
So, he's lucky they haven't charged him with criminal trespass.
We received a 911 call advising that someone was plugged into the power outlet behind the middle school. The responding officer located the vehicle in the rear of the building at the kitchen loading dock up against the wall with a cord run to an outlet. The officer spent some time trying to determine whose vehicle it was. It was unlocked and he eventually began looking through the interior after verifying it did not belong to the school system.
The officer, his marked patrol vehicle and the electric vehicle were all in clear view of the tennis courts. Eventually, a man on the courts told the officer that the man playing tennis with him owned the vehicle. The officer went to the courts and interviewed the vehicle owner. The officer's initial incident report gives a good indication of how difficult and argumentative the individual was to deal with. He made no attempt to apologize or simply say oops and he wouldn't do it again. Instead he continued being argumentative, acknowledged he did not have permission and then accused the officer of having damaged his car door. The officer told him that was not true and that the vehicle and existing damage was already on his vehicles video camera from when he drove up.
Given the uncooperative attitude and accusations of damage to his vehicle, the officer chose to document the incident on an incident report. The report was listed as misdemeanor theft by taking. The officer had no way of knowing how much power had been consumed, how much it cost nor how long it had been charging.
The report made its way to Sgt Ford's desk for a follow up investigation. He contacted the middle school and inquired of several administrative personnel whether the individual had permission to use power. He was advised no. Sgt. Ford showed a photo to the school resource officer who recognized Mr. Kamooneh. Sgt Ford was further advised that Mr. Kamooneh had previously been advised he was not allowed on the school tennis courts without permission from the school . This was apparently due to his interfering with the use of the tennis courts previously during school hours.
Based upon the totality of these circumstances and without any expert advice on the amount of electricity that may have been used, Sgt Ford signed a theft warrant. The warrant was turned over to the DeKalb Sheriffs Dept for service because the individual lived in Decatur, not Chamblee. This is why he was arrested at a later time.
I am sure that Sgt. Ford was feeling defensive when he said a theft is a theft and he would do it again. Ultimately, Sgt. Ford did make the decision to pursue the theft charges, but the decision was based on Mr. Kamooneh having been advised that he was not allowed on the property without permission. Had he complied with that notice none of this would have occurred. Mr. Kamooneh's son is not a student at the middle school and he was not the one playing tennis. Mr. Kamooneh was taking lessons himself.
So, he's lucky they haven't charged him with criminal trespass.
That's a great use of the 911 system.
letzrockexpress
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Criminal Trespass is the logical offense being that he was previously warned. Theft is going to be harder to prove. I can't imagine it will be easy, if possible at all, to determine how much power he absconded with. Trespassing, at least in this case, is cut and dried.
It is not hard to prove theft. He had no permission to be on the property, no permission to take the electricity, no matter how much or how little he took. The amount would determine whether it was larceny or grand larceny. Theft is theft. The theft charge would be in addition to the trespassing charge.
letzrockexpress
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Actually, all we know is the car was plugged in. We don't know if he actually aquired any juice. That has not been disclosed to my knowledge. Trespassing will stick. Theft might not.
IF none was taken, then the theft will not be charged. IF there was power taken, it should be.
He admitted that he was there without permission, and did not have permission to plug his car into the outlet. He also admitted, to the police and in a television interview, that he was plugged in for about 20 minutes.
He also admitted that he had been told that he wasn't allowed on school property any more, but said that he was never told he could not take power from an electrical outlet on the property, but that it was an excepted practice that he's done many times in the past. When the cop at the scene asked him if he had specifically asked for permission to use the electical power from the school, Kamooneh responded by asking the cop if he had asked "permission for his patrol car to dirty the air. You didn't, did you?!" LOL
All of this happened because a local citizen called the police to report someone using the school's electrical outlet to charge their car.
And it is the responsibility of every citizen who sees something illegal going on to report it. All of this happened, not because a citizen did as they should, it happened because someone was trespassing and plugged into a plug that he had no permission to plug into.
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letzrockexpress
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So If I were to, let's say, observe a guy, maybe in brown coveralls, crawling under my van, I should call the cops?
letzrockexpress
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Mr. Kamooneh is clearly a putz and a Trespasser, but is their irrefutable proof he actually aquired any power?