Islamist cleric Anwar al-Awlaki killed in Yemen

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Not vengance, you kill a snake by cutting of it's head.

Dr. Paul ain't got a clue. Neither does Obama, Bush, Gore, Reagan.

Attack my country, attack my Constitution, no matter WHO you are, foreign or domestic, YOU are a target. Oaths mean something to me.

(YOU, in this post, does not mean anyone in particular so no one need get their nickers in a twist)
 

tbubster

Seasoned Expediter
These men got what they had coming.The fact that Paul finds a problem with hunting down and killing the scum makes me glad he has no chance of ever being the president of the USA.These men were no hiding out in a cave somewhere they were on the move when the drone struck.

Some call it revenge most call it justice.There was no chance that he could have been caught and found guilty at trial.All of you crying this is the way it should have been done seem to forget some of our basic laws.First we are not at war with yeman.We are however at war with the terrorist that hide there in plain sight many times.So what many of you wanted to see happen was for boots to be on the ground in yeman in order to kidnap an american citizen in a sovereign nation.If this would have been the way it went down you all would be crying about how we violated his rights by kidnaping him from another counrty in order to seek revenge.After all he was an american citizen and as such he had his right to due procces and that does not include kidnapping does it??Hell the fact that we went into a sovereign nation to go after bin laden had people crying foul.

Up untill 9/11 Israel is really the only country to hunt down and kill terrorist.Then on 9/11 that all changed.Now many countrys are in the hunt and the fight with terrorist.Yet some how some of you call this losing.

By killing them out right it does send a message and a clear one at that.One that says you can only hide for so long and even if you are on the move we will get you.See for years and years the terorist have had safe havens in other countrys.Because america would not seek them out in other countrys that we were not at war with.In these countrys they had a free pass to do as they pleased With out the fear of being caught and brought to justice.The killings of these top terrorist leaders shows them that this has been taken away.That it does not matter anymore where you hide we will in fact get you.This also sends a message to those countrys that habor terrorist that we know you harbor them and this is what we are willing to do to stop them.

Greg I do agree with you on one point and that is there is far to much info released to the public.Yet at the same time this is how some of you on here belive it should be.Some belive that the public has the right to know everthing the government has ever done.

So again you can call it what you want Most call it justice.
 

tbubster

Seasoned Expediter
Yes he is a martyr to some to most of the world he was just a terrorist who had his head blown off by some of the best soliders in the world.:)
 

AmPack

Active Expediter
It's NOT assassination is war...you know "War on Terror"!
He wasn't killed while having a nice peaceful dinner with his family:D...The drone hit their armed convoy of terrorists.
Ron Paul is a douche!
 

skyraider

Veteran Expediter
US Navy
I took this oath in 1966, but so did millions of us.It was given to us by an Officer of the US Military, so what gives ?


In the Armed Forces EXCEPT the National Guard (Army or Air)

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.:D
 

AmPack

Active Expediter
Some people think they could be lawyers, based on some Google searches....The bottom line is he was killed in a attack by a drone on a TERRORIST MILITARY CONVOY!
THE RULES OF WAR!
I still think Ron Paul is a douche!
 

skyraider

Veteran Expediter
US Navy
Some people think they could be lawyers, based on some Google searches....The bottom line is he was killed in a attack by a drone on a TERRORIST MILITARY CONVOY!
THE RULES OF WAR!
I still think Ron Paul is a douche!

roflmao,,,,,:D
 

RLENT

Veteran Expediter
And some people are so ignorant and stupid that they are completely unable to make a legally-sound and persuasive argument to convince anyone other than a roomful of 6th grade-educated drunken Bubbas at the local redneck bar .... who are probably all first cousins ..... and related by marriage ......

So what's your point exactly ?

That some can read, comprehend, and understand ..... while others are so completely ill-equipped that they must watch Fox News to be told what to think ?
 
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tbubster

Seasoned Expediter
So paul says he voted to use force against those who attacked us on 9/11.Maybe some of you should really look at this it was called AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF FORCE AGAINST TERRORIST.Now Al-Awlaki can in fact be tied to at least two of the 9/11 hijackers.Here are the words that matters in this AUMF act.USE ALL NECESSARY AND APPROPRIATE FORCE AGAINST ANYONE HE (HE BEING THE PRESIDENT)DETERMINED PLANNED AUTHORIZED COMMITTED OR AIDED IN THE 9/11 ATTACKS.Paul voted yes to this.He voted to give the president the power to do this.Paul voted to give the president the power to kill who ever the PRESIDENT DETERMINED.Paul is a smart man PAUL knew what he was doing when he voted to give ONE MAN THIS POWER.So you see this was in fact LEGAL and RON PAUL VOTED TO MAKE IT LEGAL.Paul voted to give JUST ONE PERSON the power to decide if someone should die or not.

NO DR PAUL what is sad is you had this to say



"No, I don't think that's a good way to deal with our problems,” Paul said in a videotape of the questioning by reporters. Awlaki “was never tried or charged for any crimes. No one knows if he killed anybody. We know he might have been associated with the ‘underwear bomber.’ But if the American people accept this blindly and casually that we now have an accepted practice of the president assassinating people who he thinks are bad guys. I think it's sad.”


When you DR PAUL voted to give the president the power to legally assassinat people.You DR PAUL are just as much to blame for this as the president is.
 

RLENT

Veteran Expediter
So you see this was in fact LEGAL and RON PAUL VOTED TO MAKE IT LEGAL.
Before babbling on in here with the same incorrect and legally-misinformed drivel in this thread, perhaps you might wish to read my reply to you in the other thread where you posted it, and answer the single, simple question that I asked you there.

Dr. Paul actually understands the law .... and understands that the Constitution is the supreme law of the land .... and what that actually means ..... something you seem to be entirely and thoroughly unfamiliar with ....
 
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AmPack

Active Expediter
"Dr. Paul" aka Ron Paul is a douche! In his opinion we should spend the lives of some marines to capture a enemy and spend some millions of tax payer money for the trial...when actually is plain and simple...if you are in a ARMED TERRORIST CONVOY then you should expect a military response.
"Dr. Paul" aka Ron Paul is a douche!
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
"Dr. Paul" aka Ron Paul is a douche!
Do you even know what a douche is? It is a jet or current of water applied to the body for cleansing and hygienic purposes. American needs a good douching.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Do you even know what a douche is? It is a jet or current of water applied to the body for cleansing and hygienic purposes. American needs a good douching.

A cleaning is what we need but we are not going to get it.
 

skyraider

Veteran Expediter
US Navy
Ok,,its getting close for church and sunday school, Layout, would u help tie down these napalm canisters in my helo please, dont want them rolling out on the good guys.
 

mjmsprt40

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
The problem is that we won't do a complete cleansing of Congress. The President, the entire House and one-third of the Senate are up for re-election in 2012. In actual practice, we might replace the President, most House members will get re-elected and most of the Senators up for re-election will get re-elected. Americans tend to be resistant to change of their own representatives for any number of reasons, even while agreeing that everybody else's representatives need to go.

About the subject of this thread: Welcome to the real world of war. Anybody who thinks we should arrest these guys who, though they WERE American citizens, have declared war on their former home country, are welcome to try. You'll find it amazingly hard to do. They're in armed camps, in this case this guy traveled in an armed convoy, they're in countries not overly friendly to the United States, if not in some kind of open conflict with us, and so on and so on.

Sometimes it's possible to arrest a low-level doofus who is trying something here, as was recently done. A guy was going to try to fly radio-controlled airplanes into the Pentagon and the Congress, and blow them up. For the purpose he tried to get 24 pounds of C4. He got found out and set up by FBI agents, as soon as they had enough proof he was arrested. But, that was in this country, a single goof who didn't plan properly and who didn't check that his suppliers actually were who they said they were. His plan was a poor one anyway, and he was sure to get busted.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Ok,,its getting close for church and sunday school, Layout, would u help tie down these napalm canisters in my helo please, dont want them rolling out on the good guys.

I am going to break from this as well. Have to do some work on the truck. Can't make it to church, none close. Hard to get into church lots with a straight truck.
 
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