Involved with Clinton for President? Be Careful...

Pilgrim

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Retired Expediter
Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what has happened to many "friends" of the Clintons:

1-James McDougal - Clinton 's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.

2 -Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown . The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3- Vince Foster - Former White House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock 's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head,
ruled a suicide.

4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller commited suicide.

5- C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6-Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".

7-Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8-Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock . Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock . Park's son said his father was building a dossier on
Clinton . He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9-James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas .

10-James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

11-Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12-Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13-Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton 's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14-Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15- Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16-Paula Grober - Clinton 's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

17-Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.( I read a wonderful book about this incident by an investigative reporter...scary stuff!)

18- Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

19-Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment balcony August15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

20-Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21-Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22-Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton 's
advisory council, personally treated Clinton 's mother, stepfather and
brother.

23-Barry Seal -Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas , death was no accident. (all tied in with the death of those two boys killed on the railroad track mj)

24-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25-Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

27-Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boyshad been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
BILL CLINTON was Govenor and knew about this, and evidence of strong possiblity that he covered for those involved)

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28-Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.

29-Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988.

30-Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31-Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

33-James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural causes".

34-Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his
pickup truck in June 1990.

35-Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

If I were David Geffen, I'd be increasing my security precautions.
 

LDB

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RE: Involved with Clinton for President? Be Carefu

Another charade of character assassination?

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tallcal101

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RE: Involved with Clinton for President? Be Carefu

Twenty nine percent of our populace is concerned.Go read another good spy novel,because thats whats been presented.
 

Bob and Hooligan

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RE: Involved with Clinton for President? Be Carefu

Thank you Terry and Rene.

Some of these attacks are getting a little old

Road Hooligan
 

arkjarhead

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RE: Involved with Clinton for President? Be Carefu

i don't think that the person who wrote that article on that website like clinton do you? all that was, was a rebuttal. they really showed no hard evidence just their oponion like the first person. one thing i found interesting was they spoke of jfk. there is a lil conspiracy theory down here that jfk's daddy got bill clinton's mom pregnant while she worked in the bath houses in hot springs which was a place for the wealthy of the north to come and play. the theory states that after she was knocked up old man kennedy told slick willie's mom that bill would be taken care of and rise to power if she kept quiet about it. think about it. he just luckily was a rhodes scholar in england when his draft number for vietnam came up. plus the fact that he got a presidental parden from richard nixon. plus look at slick willie and look at teddy in the face and tell me they don't look a like they do in my mind.
 

Broompilot

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Would not want this one to slip to the bottom.

All those pardons, where if you remember NO ONE GOT PAID OFF, well Ms. Clinton was that not your nephew who is now in the papers for accepting bribes?

How in the world could this happen when we were reassured that know one was bought out? Clintonitize maybee?
 

cheri1122

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I think it requires more brains than luck to become a Rhodes Scholar, and I'm sure it requires more brains to do that than become a cheerleader, even if it was an Ivy League University...:p
Y'all are working so hard to discredit Hilary Clinton before she even gets elected - what could she possibly do that's worse than our current fearless leader?
 

RichM

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Now Cheri you know I love you but Hillary would be a disaster big time,now Condi would work to fix this mess the country is in but Ms Clinton would bring socalism to the forefront and you think we are taxed now,look out.
 

LDB

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RE: Involved with Clinton for President? Be Carefu

Hilary will tax us to death, steal much of the profits of corporate America with her bogus windfall taxes, and push through as many socialist programs as she can think up. In all that, terrorism will be ignored just as it was every time bill was offered Osama on a platter. She is a disaster looking for a place to happen.

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greg334

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RE: Involved with Clinton for President? Be Carefu

Cheri,
I got to say the Rhodes scholarship program is somewhat a political thing just like the Nobel Peace Prize (look Carter got it for nothing), with the right connections you can get into the program.

As for Hillary, I am siding with someone who actually get Bill Clinton elected, Richard Morris the guy behind the campaign. He does not say much about Hillary but he does say that it would be an utter disaster if she got into the White House.

Now I know she is pure evil and his statements on different shows back up what I feel about her, so I stand with the people who know her and her M.O. You trully can't argue the fact that here is someone who knows both of them very well and knows how she operates saying that there is a serious problem with her to begin with but a bigger problem if she makes it to the White House and he clearly will not support her.
 

Broompilot

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Cheri please answer than why she said Nobody was bought out with Bribes and now her Nephew is in the spot lot for 350K in Bribe taking.

Should I just ignore this fact? Is this Blood relation?

No one has seen or heard of anyone connected with George in the news like this. (and I do not like G4)

But Hillary and her past keep comming back, she did what she did and now we will all get to see the dark truth. I for one want anyone but her except Jessie J.
 

letzrockexpress

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This barbing is silly, really. It doesn't take more than a week's worth of paying attention to the news to know that it doesn't matter which side is in control. All politicians are power hungry egomaniacs and as such are going to do what ever it takes to further themselves and their agendas. It has nothing to do with where they are from, whether they are male or female, Democrat or republican, liberal or conservative. They spew whatever crap they have to at a certain point to counter what ever the other side is spewing at that time. Corruption is just a byproduct. Always has been, always will be.As for me, well, maybe I'll get behind Dennis Kucinich....
 

cheri1122

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I'm afraid that Letzrock has spoken the truth. I wasn't intending to defend Hilary, cause I think nearly all politicians are more interested in getting reelected than representing the people - I was just speculating that some people seem to hate her even more, because she's a she. So is Condi, of course, but she's a she like Laura Bush: she never, ever says anything that might upset George. She's a tame woman, which Hilary sure isn't...:p
I've met Dennis Kucinich, as he's a neighbor in these parts, and he does seem to be less interested in being a 'master of the universe' than any other politician - I'm just wondering if his marriage has changed his ambitions any.
 

Tennesseahawk

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You think Condi got where she is cause she's a zombie? You're right to a point about keeping W happy. That's her job, and everyone else who works for him. They don't have to agree. They just aren't supposed to make it public they don't. Remember Dickk Morris? He was a boyscout when he was working for the Clintons. And from the way he's talking, he didn't agree much with the way they did things. I think Condi is smarter than Hillary; but she has one thing Hillary doesn't... TACT! She's also pretty ;)

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greg334

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Exactly t-hawk.
I am trying to find out why people think she is passive when they do a very good job of keeping disagreements quiet.

When Powel left, he started to speak up but looking back, he didn't say much about his work or disagreeing with the CC.

And in Clinton's administration in comparison, the amount of passive people must have been 3 to 1 to the bush administration. they were the most tight lipped people around.
 

letzrockexpress

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Mr. Morris is nothing more than a mercenary who will devise a plan to spew crap for the highest bidder. If the devil himself offered him enough cash he would probably babble about how Mary and Joseph were irresponsible for having a child out of wedlock, or how Jesus was just a bum who roamed from town to town. Then when the Christians finally raised the stakes and offerd him more, he would complain about how the Devil is depleting our energy resources by keeping Hell too hot.
 

Jayman

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My thoughts on Condi:

I need a woman like her. Smart and attractive women usually make good money! :7
 
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