In Transit Not For Hire
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Azcot
Seasoned Expediter
If the GVWR is 26,001 lbs or more, the vehicle is required to have the USDOT number displayed in accordane with 49CFR 390.21 along with the legal trade name on both side of the power unit, regardless weather you are loaded or not. It falls under 'drive away/tow away'. Obvisously you gotta have a valid tag...hope this helps and good luck.
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The thing is, the poster is not contracted to anyone...there is no company name yet so there is NO US DOT # to display....just a big RV till they get to orientation
We made a sign with our company name and DOT number and put Not for Hire below it.
We plan to log and still have our own prepass.
Yes, Landstar.
greg334
Veteran Expediter
Log, and have proof that you are going to orientation with the intent of putting the correct signs on the truck and don't forget the insurance. You won't have an issue.
Just did this last week and I was stopped in Illinois, the proof that I just got the truck and bringing it to the company to get it signed on and they just asked for proof of insurance, my log and proof that I have a contract with the company.
Just did this last week and I was stopped in Illinois, the proof that I just got the truck and bringing it to the company to get it signed on and they just asked for proof of insurance, my log and proof that I have a contract with the company.
I don't know about T/T but apparently all expediters go to Rockford.
nightcreacher
Veteran Expediter
if you havent signed the lease,just run it,go over scale,being emty,they wont even question you
I have never been clear about the use of "Not For Hire" signs on the truck when moving the truck for various reasons. There are many opinions offered by drivers, but finding anything official about this is difficult.
Your inquiry prompted me to look again and the only reference I find to "Not For Hire" in the FMCSA regs is in conjunction with the definition of a private carrier. It says there that if you are a private interstate Not For Hire carrier, you do not need to obtain operating authority.
They are talking about companies that haul stuff for themselves and not for customers who pay a common carrier to haul freight; like a hospital bed company that runs trucks solely to deliver and retrieve the beds it leases to hospitals, or maybe an auto parts manufacturer that hauls parts to plants and returns with empty racks. These trucks are subject to logging and other FMCSA requirements. The private carrier, not-for-hire distinction simply means that the companies that run such trucks do not need to obtain operating authority.
Your proposed solution is as good as any I can think of but you may want to check with Landstar for any guidance they may have to offer on this.
You will likely terminate your personal PrePass account when you find out in orientation that you can get PrePass at a lower fee through Landstar. It is also beneficial to have a Landstar registered PrePass transponder in your truck. Because Landstar has better SMS scores, you will get green-lighted more often than when you were at FedEx (Diane and I have been with Landstar five months now had have yet to be pulled in or pulled over for an inspection).
If your present PrePass transponder is still registered with FedEx, I would not use it going to Rockford. It may send a confusing signal to the scale house and attract attention. On a scale drive through, they will see a FedEx truck on the transponder but a DOT number that does not match.
This trip is as personal-use as it can get but you are also in limbo between two carriers.
When Diane and I once moved our new truck before it was registered, we did so using dealer plates and paperwork our sales rep provided. There were no DOT numbers on the truck and that attracted the attention of one of the most loud and rude scale cops we ever had the displeasure of encountering. He tied into me in a terrible way until a Lieutenant who was present overheard this lout, called him off and sent us on our way.
Regarding the DOT numbers and company name you will place on your truck for this trip, research the rules to make sure your numbers are large enough and spaced far enough from other lettering to make your sign legal.
When we moved our truck to Landstar, we printed the sign on our printer, put it in a plastic document protector, and used clear tape on all four sides to attach it to the truck and seal it from rain.
You are not the first person to move a truck some distance to get to a new carrier's orientation and signed on with them. I'd be interested to learn what guidance other companies provide. I don't know what Landstar says on this matter because we never asked the question (duh!).
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greg334
Veteran Expediter
"j"
When I went to LS, I had arranged for Insurance for the truck from them to get to Rockford. Call them and ask them what can be done. If you run without insurance, you can get into a problem.
Also I had nothing on my truck, no "not for hire" stuff, the FedEx stuff was gone and the truck was bare. I had all my paperwork, including my contract and letter of acceptance.
When I went to LS, I had arranged for Insurance for the truck from them to get to Rockford. Call them and ask them what can be done. If you run without insurance, you can get into a problem.
Also I had nothing on my truck, no "not for hire" stuff, the FedEx stuff was gone and the truck was bare. I had all my paperwork, including my contract and letter of acceptance.
when we went to oreintation we were told ,because the name from old co was on the side of cab that we were to cover everything on the door we did not have toshow anything as per dot just temp tag or tag and have proof of liability hope this helps check w/ your new carrier they should know
nightcreacher
Veteran Expediter
JJ like I said,just run it,you wont be bothered.and since you have your own insurance,its no big deal.LS will tell you the same thing
idtrans
Expert Expediter
here's a question why doesn't landstar have a orientation in Florida also? their head quarters is Florida.
I would not put the carriers dot number on the unit. If you are pulled in, you do not have a copy of the carriers authority or insurance. I would simply put not for hire on the side of the unit. Have copies of the information that you are in transit to sign on with a motor carrier, all plate and insurance information. We have never had a truck have an issue doing this.
Landstar Express America is in Rockford IL.