Idiot in charge

layoutshooter

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This is what happens when you put political hacks into real jobs. The first rule in intel (humint) is never confirm a source. Remember, this idiot is in charge, under Obama's orders, for gutting our military. Panetta should be fired today and Obama in November. Proof that lack of real experience kills.


Panetta cites key intelligence on bin Laden raid



WASHINGTON (AP) — Defense Secretary Leon Panetta is acknowledging publicly for the first time that a Pakistani doctor provided key information to the U.S. in advance of the successful Navy SEAL assault on Osama bin Laden's compound last May.


Panetta told CBS's "60 Minutes," in a profile to be broadcast on Sunday, that Shakil Afridi helped provide intelligence for the raid on bin Laden's compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan.
Afridi ran a vaccination program for the CIA to collect DNA and verify bin Laden's presence in the compound. He has since been charged by Pakistan with treason. Panetta said he is "very concerned" for the doctor.


Panetta also told "60 Minutes" that he remains convinced that someone in the Pakistani government "must have had some sense" that a person of interest was in the compound. He added that he has no proof that Pakistan knew it was bin Laden.


The Pakistani government had hoped to resolve the Afridi matter quietly, once media attention died down, perhaps releasing him to U.S. custody, according to two Pakistani officials. They requested anonymity because the investigation into charges the doctor behaved treasonously was ongoing.




Panetta cites key intelligence on bin Laden raid - Yahoo! News
 

greg334

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This happen with bush and something in Baghdad.

It comes down to this, there seems to be a case where we know more about what's going on because these people want their 15 minutes of fame than should.

Why is it that we know the CIA was operating in libya?

This isn't an aministration thing but an agency cultural thing.
 

Turtle

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The reason for not (publicly) confirming a source is to protect the source. In this case it's the other way around, where you need to confirm it publicly in order to protect the source. This puts world pressure on Pakistan, who had been saying all along they didn't know bin Laden was there, and that bin Laden was the enemy, but now they want to charge the doctor with treason, which means they knew bin Laden was there, and that they consider bin Laden not the enemy. Can't have it both ways. To confirm it publicly forces Pakistan's hand, making them answer questions they don't want to answer.
 

layoutshooter

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The reason for not (publicly) confirming a source is to protect the source. In this case it's the other way around, where you need to confirm it publicly in order to protect the source. This puts world pressure on Pakistan, who had been saying all along they didn't know bin Laden was there, and that bin Laden was the enemy, but now they want to charge the doctor with treason, which means they knew bin Laden was there, and that they consider bin Laden not the enemy. Can't have it both ways. To confirm it publicly forces Pakistan's hand, making them answer questions they don't want to answer.


Don't buy it but we shall see. I would be willing to bet that we could have gotten him out quicker without publicity. NOW they have to 'save face' and prosecute to show that they are not 'puppets' of the US. Only time will tell. It also makes it much harder to protect the others involved, You can bet there were.
 

layoutshooter

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This happen with bush and something in Baghdad.

It comes down to this, there seems to be a case where we know more about what's going on because these people want their 15 minutes of fame than should.

Why is it that we know the CIA was operating in libya?

This isn't an aministration thing but an agency cultural thing.


The administration RUNS the CIA. THEY decide what is released or not. They are responsible. Period. Panetta is nothing more than Obama's stooge. Neither one of them have the experience to be in the positions that they are in. You can bet your nose that experienced agents are FUMING right now. Even more so if they are in covert positions. They have just been told that fame and winning elections is more important to this administration than the mission or their lives.
 

Turtle

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If they prosecute, though, they are admitting that the doctor committed a treasonous act, which flies in the face of their entire position of being actively engaged in fighting al Qaeda and terrorism, and in trying to locate bin Laden. If they prosecute the doctor for aiding and abetting the US in finding bin Laden, they are, in effect, saying the US is the enemy. The publicity isn't Panetta's doing. It's been out there in public for a while. Panetta's public conformation is more of a diplomatic move than anything, done to protect the source, not done to give the source up.
 

Turtle

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The administration RUNS the CIA. THEY decide what is released or not. They are responsible. Period. Panetta is nothing more than Obama's stooge.
Leon Panetta - Secretary of Defense
David Petraeus - Director of the CIA

Gotta keep up. :D
 

layoutshooter

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If they prosecute, though, they are admitting that the doctor committed a treasonous act, which flies in the face of their entire position of being actively engaged in fighting al Qaeda and terrorism, and in trying to locate bin Laden. If they prosecute the doctor for aiding and abetting the US in finding bin Laden, they are, in effect, saying the US is the enemy. The publicity isn't Panetta's doing. It's been out there in public for a while. Panetta's public conformation is more of a diplomatic move than anything, done to protect the source, not done to give the source up.

We shall see. I would not want too, would not work, for this bunch. I would never put my life on the line with a 'thing' like those two in charge.

Having served in positions that required 'cover', it would worry me. I would be REALLY concerned if I was in a 'covert' position. Obama and Co. cannot be trusted with lives.
 

RLENT

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Obama and Co. cannot be trusted with lives.
One could say similar about a variety of individuals in both the military and the CIA as well .... evil men are evil men, regardless of their particular employer or specific job title ....
 

Ragman

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Panetta is nothing more than Obama's stooge.

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witness23

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Whenever a certain someone starts talking about their past career I always picture Maxwell Smart for some odd reason.

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Pilgrim

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Don't buy it but we shall see. I would be willing to bet that we could have gotten him out quicker without publicity. NOW they have to 'save face' and prosecute to show that they are not 'puppets' of the US. Only time will tell. It also makes it much harder to protect the others involved, You can bet there were.
It would seem that the best course of action should have been to get him out of the country immediately before or after the raid. We can only imagine the level of comfort other possible sources of intel might have, knowing if their cover is blown the U.S. will go public with their plight and strenuously argue for their human rights while they're shackled to the wall of some third-world prison.
 

layoutshooter

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Whenever a certain someone starts talking about their past career I always picture Maxwell Smart for some odd reason.

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IF what you say above is true it would seem you have little concept of the realities of what I did. Most likely would not want to learn of them either. I wonder why you always want to make this a personal thing?
 

Pilgrim

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IF what you say above is true it would seem you have little concept of the realities of what I did. Most likely would not want to learn of them either. I wonder why you always want to make this a personal thing?
"I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left."
- Margaret Thatcher
 
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