Ice on Roof solution?
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greg334
Veteran Expediter
Ice or rocks, what's the difference?
I am following a truck to get off an exit, I am not close to it at all and the driver his a pot holes which causes the truck dump rocks from the trailer that is not secured (the size of quarters) which busts my windshield up so badly I can't drive the thing.
I call the company and they say under the law there is no way they have to pay for a thing unless I have photos of the truck to prove that it was their truck. I turn it over to my insurance company and I have to pay the deductible. So I write a letter to the trucking company to recover my deductible, which here I am legally able to do and they fire one back to me - so sue us.
I can't see where the difference is, if I can't claim problems with rocks from trucks then is ice really all that different?
I am following a truck to get off an exit, I am not close to it at all and the driver his a pot holes which causes the truck dump rocks from the trailer that is not secured (the size of quarters) which busts my windshield up so badly I can't drive the thing.
I call the company and they say under the law there is no way they have to pay for a thing unless I have photos of the truck to prove that it was their truck. I turn it over to my insurance company and I have to pay the deductible. So I write a letter to the trucking company to recover my deductible, which here I am legally able to do and they fire one back to me - so sue us.
I can't see where the difference is, if I can't claim problems with rocks from trucks then is ice really all that different?
Yep, and if they'd have maintained a safe following distance, they would have kept their windshield intact.
That would be assuming a single lane road..and the ice fall off directly behind...but the ice falls off to either side....multi-lane roadways I've seen some chunks of snow and ice fly off that looked like the burg the Titanic struck!
Pelicn I agree with you on a safe following distance but I have seen sheets of ice come off a trailer even at a slow speed that amaze me at how long it hangs in the air.
Right now though the truck is an easy target and many people are figuring this out and can get a new windshield very easy. If we take steps to prevent this I am hoping we will not have to replace anyone’s windshield. It really bothers me how quickly in this situation the truck is to blame no questions asked and it is much easier to let the truck buy a new windshield then to find out the truth. HUGE SCAM and we are the victims.
Right now though the truck is an easy target and many people are figuring this out and can get a new windshield very easy. If we take steps to prevent this I am hoping we will not have to replace anyone’s windshield. It really bothers me how quickly in this situation the truck is to blame no questions asked and it is much easier to let the truck buy a new windshield then to find out the truth. HUGE SCAM and we are the victims.
I agree Greg, there is no difference, now. There are several states that have passed or are working on passing laws that will INSURE that a truck is liable for ice damage. PA is one that is working on it. They are writing laws that are a litigaters dream. Are not a lot of legislators lawyers? MMMM? Maybe a conflict of interest here? NAW, they are all pure and honest and only out to protect the interests of the people. Layoutshooter
Layoutshooter
P51bombay
Expert Expediter
I haul another brand of those things daily and I'll tell you they are NOT cheap - an average bath sized matte is somewhere around $5-600. Last week they forgot to put a half dozen or so mattes on the shipment............$3500 discrepancy. I noticed that company with the truck systems showed an install on a translucent roof = bye bye see through roof. I
Thats why I like the simple approach...
Some truck washes have a bridge system(catwalk) that the truck passes under....an operator with a high power sprayer could peel the ice off in no time for a fee of course and no extra expense would be necessary...
That does work OVM but there are many areas of the U.S. and Canada that get snow and ice that do not have truck stops. There is a good and reletively inexpensive answer to the problem. It is sitting on the drawing board or computer of some backyard inventer. We just have to draw him out into the open. Layoutshooter
The is an answer somewhere, shoot, if we keep kicking this around in here WE might come up with it!! Layoutshooter
That has been brought up, Greg is of the belief that a truck does not produce enough power to do that. It would take a lot of power to melt exsiting ice, I don't know how much less it would take to stop ice from forming. Layoutshooter
MentalGiant
Seasoned Expediter
When I lived in Oklahoma, I was behind a logger truck at a reasonable distance. Piece of tree flew off and hit my windshield and put a crack in. I was pretty upset, because I just bought the car a month before. I stopped the truck, got his information and company information and insurance information. Off course having full coverage I turned it in to my insurance company. I followed up on it a week later and was told the trucking companys insurance will not cover it, because it was considered as a road hazard or a act of god.
Well, didn't know I ****ed god off so much, so my insurance paid for it. But, saying all this. You would think the trucker or trucking company would be responible for it, but by law in Oklahoma anyways, they are not responible. Think about, its just trees sitting on something being hauled, no cover of any kind. No prevention of any kind to keep anything flying off. But, I have come to terms with it and fall way back behind trucks like that.
I would say ice on top of trucks would be the same. Its part of nature and if the ice falls off, I would say it would be a act of god or a road hazard. Not sure what all the other states laws considering this would be, but I would say most are the same.
Well, didn't know I ****ed god off so much, so my insurance paid for it. But, saying all this. You would think the trucker or trucking company would be responible for it, but by law in Oklahoma anyways, they are not responible. Think about, its just trees sitting on something being hauled, no cover of any kind. No prevention of any kind to keep anything flying off. But, I have come to terms with it and fall way back behind trucks like that.
I would say ice on top of trucks would be the same. Its part of nature and if the ice falls off, I would say it would be a act of god or a road hazard. Not sure what all the other states laws considering this would be, but I would say most are the same.
You are right Mental Giant in some states it is an act of god and in other states they are trying to make this a felony.
You would think so but many states are looking to pass laws, on the snow and ice problem, ONLY. Some are passing laws to cover loads as well. You can be sure of one thing thought, it will cost us money and truckers will ALWAYS lose in a law suit. Layoutshoooter
MentalGiant
Seasoned Expediter
I have heard of it before on planes, but I think they mostly deice the wings while on the ground. But it does make since to have a deice option on planes since they are high in altitude where ice could form because its much colder up there.
Yes, a chemical procees. It is far easier for them. They are restricted by thier very nature to limited road areas, runways. The de-icing machines are placed in such a way that they have to pass by them prior to take off. Also, some airlines do thier own de-icing. I think some aircraft also have heating elements in the wings, but thier engines produce far more electricity than ours do. Maybe a pilot can help with this one, are the on-board in-flight de-icing systems on planes electric or chemical? Layoutshooter
MentalGiant
Seasoned Expediter
I kind of figured something like that. Since I don't fly very often, its probably been 11 years ago since I have last flown on a airplane, I never really paid attention to any of that. But, over the years you hear other people talk about it.