I never been soo insulted and embrassed from a shipper in all my life!!!!

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
I really like Greg's suggestion: if they accuse you of theft, drive right back, and have them search the truck. (Then insist on detention pay, and the extra mileage!)
PS I've done the "ask the pizza delivery guy" thing too - they know where everything is, uh huh. :D
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
The Post Office will usually know where everything is, as well. I had to use them in Pearl, TX once, but I probably should have just called Leo on that one. :)
 

P51bombay

Expert Expediter
I really like Greg's suggestion: if they accuse you of theft, drive right back, and have them search the truck. (Then insist on detention pay, and the extra mileage!)
PS I've done the "ask the pizza delivery guy" thing too - they know where everything is, uh huh. :D

About two weeks ago I got into a new industrial area, only a couple streets were old and on the map/GPS, the rest were all new, the street I needed to go down looked like a motocross track under construction. So I know I'm nearby but as it turns out, going the wrong direction when an angel (in a brown truck :) ) appears - told him what street I wanted and he even knew what numbers were on it, "turn left here, turn right there - you'll see it" and I did.

A little bit ago I was using live local to see an intersection and figure out if there was a place big enough to stop/turn around and I think I saw my truck sitting at the stop light - what are the odds? :)
 

Twizted1

Seasoned Expediter
I would file this shipper in the will not service box again!!!I have had some ignorent shippers before,that I refuse to go back to again!!!!I agree with fr8 on the reading a map,although I do use streets and trips and also agree with blizzard on the panther bozo show that is a constant occurance.Beep are you rolling?,Beep are you rolling towards the shipper?,Beep are you awake?,ring ring are you driving towards the shipper?,Beep we show you 25 miles out are you sure your heading the right way?ring ring your off route if you dont pullover we will call the state police!!.LOL I'am just plain tired of being treated like a 5 year old who needs his hand held to get the job done.I have been with panther for 3yrs now(100% on time) and just to deal with there dispatch system, still drives me nuts.I think the constant turn over of qualified dispatchers is the problem.(once they no what they are doing they,quit,get fired,go back to college.
There is a true need to retain the drivers and also competent dispatch.I tried the asking the local people for directions before and I gave up on that,98% cant tell you how they even get to work, maybee the pizza ppl can tell ya,Ill give it a shot next time!!!:rolleyes:
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Good luck calling me for Pearland. If it's a place I go to I'll know it but not by the address. I probably couldn't name a dozen streets in the whole place. I just know where things are and which tree or mailbox you turn by to get to them.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
Panther has never told me to break the law. They even rescheduled a delivery to the next day because of their 16 hour rule once. If they ever tell me to break the law I will ask for their supervisor.

That is the right answer. A driver is in control of the situation not a high school dispatcher. Panther has a few as do most companies. Ask for the supervisor in dispatch or a safety supervisor for these types of issues.
Remember, you are ultimately responsible for what you do, not a kid in a cubicle.
Simple....think for yourself.
As for directions, your are a professional driver (I hope), so figure it out yourself if something is inaccurate.
 
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nightcreacher

Veteran Expediter
I understand poor directions from the customer,usually from a dispatcher writing them down wrong,then you call in and they look it up on Mapquest,still diections wrong cause they cant read a map.GPS,wow,what did you all do to find somewhere before the elecronics age?Every shipper and receiver have telephones,when your not sure of directions,just get dispatch to let you talk to the party where your going,never had a problem that way.and about useing the bathroom,originally the guy explained it was on other side of building.If it were me and he seemed put out,then i would hope he would have to escort me there,then he would have really been put out.I wish he would have accused me of taking his pallet jack,Id have turned around and went back with stop off and mileage and pay to show him what happens when you falsley accuse some one
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
I believe I would return as well if accused of stealing something. In most cases, it is a shipper trying to make a claim so he can get his freight for free. Not here. I would go back.
As for directions, Panther gives the driver the phone numbers to the shipper and the consignee. No need to call dispatch. Call the customer directly.
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Customer to dispatcher, "Hey, I think we may have left a pallet jack in that truck of yours that just left here."

Dispatcher to driver, "Hey, that customer says you stole his pallet jack."

I would want to hear the recording to know for sure what was said. It is not at all out of the question for one person to twist the words of another as illustrated above. It's also very possible the customer called saying "Hey, that SOB of yours stole my jack." but without knowing I'd want to get more info or I might be falsely accusing too.
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
Got turned around in Jackson, MI once and had to get our bearings. My co-driver typed and sent something on the qc. I asked him "what did you send?" He said "We're LOST!" Needless to say, I told him "we're NEVER lost!" and "you NEVER say so on the qc!" because the customer can see that. Well... we were right down the street anyways. And with the help of one of the more experienced dispatchers (a rarity at the cat), we got to where we were supposed to be.

We've heard plenty of stories about the dispatching problems and non-communication among them. What I'm getting at is don't put yourself in that position. Know where you're going before you get in an area you can't get out of. We, as drivers, have no excuses anymore as there are so many tools to benefit us with this. Using the excuse "the dispatcher directions were crap" is no longer acceptable.

-I think it's safe to say most of us have a computer and air card. If not, you're behind the times.
-If you can't get anything on mapquest or yahoo, maybe the street name is wrong. Look up the company on google, and find the right address. Maybe they'll even have a local map.
-If that fails, call the customer and ask to talk to shipping. Chances are, they've been thru giving truckers directions before.
-Know what streets are before AND after your street, so you'll know if you went too far.
-Write directions down. Plus, viewing the map on the computer helps if you're dyslexic, like me. I've often looked at my directions and known to make a R instead of a L, like I had written, because of the map in my mind.

Just remember we're the professionals in this equation. When things get petty, just remember that. The burden is on US to get freight from A to B, and it's up to US to find a way to do it.
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
Leo, you're absolutely right! IMO, that's generally what to expect from juvenile dispatching, and ultimately, the "too big for their britches" company that's too cheap to retain the good ones.

Morning... nothing out here is personal. Grin and bear the small stuff, and get on with your job. It might not be easy to do, but it's necessary for survival. The dispatcher should NEVER have said either thing to you. IMO, he/she was trying to get a reaction out of you. They succeeded! When told the shipper said you stole their pallet jack, I would've told them "No. But I'll turn around at their expense to prove it, if they desire." When told that the shipper said I peed in the woods, my response would've been "What grade are you in again?"
 

iceroadtrucker

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Well I got one thing I can say about directions

when I hit the 6 and i get the Directions people and they

I tell them exactly whats up and ask them to read whats sent to the truck.

In any case they check it out and then make a call and call me back with the right way to go.

Most of the time as u all know a person that drives a car brings ya in as if you were in a car. vice a truck.

Needless to say thank God for GPS, The Police , THe Mail Man and believe it or not NUNS in yes NUNS. Thats a story that no one would believe but Charles Garris as he was there.
:)
Any case the people in the directions Dept are Simply the Best.

:)
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
man it must be slow.....3 pages and counting over someone going for a potty break!!....real educational stuff!!:rolleyes:
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
Security camera from the business next door to the shipper:

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Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I would never have believed that the Pope would stoop (squat) so low as to steal a pallet jack. The proof is in the picture.
 

arkjarhead

Veteran Expediter
That is the right answer. A driver is in control of the situation not a high school dispatcher. Panther has a few as do most companies. Ask for the supervisor in dispatch or a safety supervisor for these types of issues.
Remember, you are ultimately responsible for what you do, not a kid in a cubicle.
Simple....think for yourself.
As for directions, your are a professional driver (I hope), so figure it out yourself if something is inaccurate.

That's why I called the police first and Panther second. I'm not complaining about Panther. I dealt with some real good dispatchers at times there. Once I was caught in a bad storm, called them and told them the deal, and they got the delivery pushed back. It was one of those deals where the weather was so bad it didn't matter what they said it was to dangerous to be driving. Regardless of where you are you will have good and bad mixed in and sometimes the good ones will have their days and you just have to deal with it. I might be in a bad mood if I was cramped up in a cubicle with a phone constantly ringing with drivers on the other end asking me where their next load was, wanting me to babysit them, or spoon feed them.
 
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