I know some won't care

arkjarhead

Veteran Expediter
I know some won't care. This is for those that do. I have been out of the service for almost 5 years. Dec. 1 will be 5 years. I've been on temporary disability. Well you can only stay on that for 5 years. I found out I'm getting transferred to permanent disability which isn't really a bad thing, but they are decreasing me down to 10%. They say are going to give me a one time severance check, and this isn't going to be a bonus on top of my VA check. I'll get that money and it will be held out of my check which I think is crazy.I'm also losing my health insurance which means I'll have to pay out of pocket for my wifes medical expenses and she has surgery coming up, and I'll loose all my rights to base services. So I'm filling out the paperwork to go before the Physical Evaluation Board at the Navy Yard in Washington, D.C. I really need your prayers. This also means I will have to miss school while I'm gone. I feel like if they can't give me anymore than 10% disability they should let me as they say "continue my Naval Service". I sure wish Terry was still here because I feel his time and experience in Naval Service would be a great benefit to me right now. So if anyone knows how I can contact Terry or anyone else with alot of experience with the Department of the Navy that wouldn't mind talking to me I sure would appreciate it.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
I think somehow you'll have to appeal the percentage...seems with your problem you've lost more then 10 % of your earnings capability...I see Terry still pops in and some know of him personally maybe they might inform him of your plight...hopefully.

Good Luck and our prayers..Ken and Judy!
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Joe: I'd be happy to add my prayers to the bunch, but since the prayers of an atheist are probably not much help, maybe you'd better send a pm to Terry - he isn't posting anymore, but I don't believe he's forsaken us entirely.
Hope it turns out better than you expect, anyway.
 

iceroadtrucker

Veteran Expediter
Driver
I know some won't care. This is for those that do. I have been out of the service for almost 5 years. Dec. 1 will be 5 years. I've been on temporary disability. Well you can only stay on that for 5 years. I found out I'm getting transferred to permanent disability which isn't really a bad thing, but they are decreasing me down to 10%. They say are going to give me a one time severance check, and this isn't going to be a bonus on top of my VA check. I'll get that money and it will be held out of my check which I think is crazy.I'm also losing my health insurance which means I'll have to pay out of pocket for my wifes medical expenses and she has surgery coming up, and I'll loose all my rights to base services. So I'm filling out the paperwork to go before the Physical Evaluation Board at the Navy Yard in Washington, D.C. I really need your prayers. This also means I will have to miss school while I'm gone. I feel like if they can't give me anymore than 10% disability they should let me as they say "continue my Naval Service". I sure wish Terry was still here because I feel his time and experience in Naval Service would be a great benefit to me right now. So if anyone knows how I can contact Terry or anyone else with alot of experience with the Department of the Navy that wouldn't mind talking to me I sure would appreciate it.

Ackjar Listen man They going to give you a reevaluation
Well You can fight it and tell them SOB right where to go
Dont say cant as cant never could. I dont know your situation, or why, but lets say U had a Back Problem, well U can either fightem and tell them Right where to go or U can sit back and let them railroad U. If your disabled and you chose that route and accepted it then well the only way to change the board to full duty would be to challenge the board and and request reeval of the situation then U be on a trial bases back to duty. If Med care for Your loved one is at steak may want to consider reeval to full duty. If U cant then U need to fight to be higher than the 10%. also U know if you are Meded out and at 35% or higher U can keep the Med care for you wife and family. Somthing to fight for as well. 50% and Perm is even better. Alot of Marines got put out of the service at Jump school due to back Injuries and ruptured disks ect. Them guys got surgery then 3 months limited duty then Bye Bye. Thats just the way it is.
Do the right thing Stand up and Fight em. They Will back down most likely and U will get whats rightfully yours. I hope and Pray for ya as They are the Vultures they take use and drain then Kick ya to the curb. Thats just the way it is.
Good Luck and Prayers are with you and your family.
God Bless ya
 

arkjarhead

Veteran Expediter
My problem is seizures. Although I have been seizure free for quite some time considering the frequncy I was having them before. When I first left the road I was averaging 5 a day.

When I was in the service I was taught that the Naval Service has a long and proud history and tradition of taking care of their own. It's hard to see that now. Maybe that tradition and history is only among the enlisted. It sure doesn't seem that Navy Captian, Marine Col., and Navy Commander bought into it as much as I did. Oh well. I wonder how hard it would be to contact my old 1st Sgt. I know he would know what to tell me.
 

spudhead911

Seasoned Expediter
You served your country with pride and honor. no one can take that away from you. I don't think it's fair what they are trying to do to you. Can the VA help you.

My prayers go out to you and your family.
 

arkjarhead

Veteran Expediter
To me 10% is so small why not let me come back in the service. It seems like with everything we have going on they could use everyone they can get. It seems like they could put me in a position, where if nothing else, I would be freeing up someone else to go fight. Just a thought.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
It is not only the military that treats it's "vets" bad. I did overf 17 years at one of those 3 letters agencies that ends in an "A". That was after 3 years in the Army Security Agency. Just as most other that did my job I have profound hearing loss. The agency that I worked for does not recognize the hearing loss as being job related and will do NOTHING for us. The Army at least knows what damage has been done and documents it. The VA put me on a 0% disabilty for the hearing loss. No money BUT I do get my hearing aids and supplies from them at no cost. Too bad that they don't help. Can't hear any better with them. They do amplifiy but nothing stops that God awful ringing that is louder than most everthing else. Tintitus I think it is called. All those years with "dits" in my ears, or the high tech signals or the lighting strikes on the antenna fields did a "number" on my ears. Layoutshooter
 

arkjarhead

Veteran Expediter
O5H must be something in intel Phil? I never understand why Army guys feel the need to tell Marines or any other branch for that matter what their job was in that code. The Marine MOS code consist of four numbers. For instance, my primary MOS was 0331(machine gunner), and my secondary MOS was 0169( Postal Clerk). You should also join the military vets social group. You layout if you haven't already.
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
You are the most gracious of men. In the midst of negative developments on your personal life, you find it in you to invite others into groups and continue to post useful information.

When reference was made to the ASA, it took me down memory lane. My 05H comment was a tip of the hat to Layoutshooter, and that is all. I trained at Fort Devens in that MOS and later became a combat infantryman (11B) and rifle platoon leader in the National Guard.

While I sometimes mention my experiences and lessons learned in the service, I have never been one to wear my veteran status on my sleeve (or car license plate or bumper sticker or lapel pin or hat pin, etc.) as some vets do. That is because I am not a combat vet. I served but was never called to fight. I feel the honor of being a veteran is more-properly vested in those who fought. For all practical purposes, I'm not much more than a REMF (Rear Echelon ...), as we called them back in the day.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Yes, 0520S3 to be exact. A "ditty bop". Went onto radio printers, signal analysis, radio direction finding and system design. Not bad for a "HOG"!!! I too was at Devens, got there Oct '70 went to Misawa, Japan in May of '71. Then onto Homestead AFB via Ft. Bragg.
Layoutshooter
 

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Joe you have my prayers! I don't know all of the particulars of your situation but I would strongly suggest consulting with an attorney before excepting any settlement. Preferably one with experience with disability injuries and dealing with Uncle Sam.

I have a friend who with a lawyer fought UPS for over 3 years to settle a permanent disability case. They were able to negotiate a satisfactory settlement.

Good luck and stay strong!
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Don't sell us too short Phil, we might have been Rear Ech etc but we had an important job to do and did it well. Besides, not many people even know what a "mill" really is. Just us in the "Club" LOL Layoutshooter
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
There are lots of civilian "Vets" from the "Shadow War" as well. Many died VERY young from "stress" related maladies. It was a very hard life. Imagine dealing with major events, knowing what really happened and not being able to talk about it, even with your wife. It destroyed a lot a marriages. Could not even talk about it when it was on the "Breaking News" thing when they cut into the ball game you and the wife were watching. And to make it worse they almost ALWAYS either screwed up the reported or out-right lied about what happened. Used to make my blood boil. Layoutshooter
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
Just to be clear, I trained to be an 05H, Morse Intercept Operator but never did the job. Due to family circumstances, I was transfered closer to home instead of shipping out to Berlin where I would have gone. By the time the family situation cleared up, there was not enough time in my three-year hitch to make it worth it for the Army to send me overseas. My entire active duty hitch was served stateside.

My infantry training came later when, missing the military, I joined the National Guard and earned a commission at Fort Benning and later completed the Infantry Officer Basic Course. But again, I was not called upon to fight, and am humbled in the presence of those who were.

For some interesting reading, read Bob Sleasman's biography (Spudhead911 here in the forum). When I read what men like him have done, and the price he now pays, my accomplishments seem insignificant.
 
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layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Phil, are you aware that the first two Americans killed in Viet Nam were ASA? I have one friend, barely alive now, that was a Warrent Officer in ASA. Made many jumps into coutries that we were not fighting in, like, Cambodia. One thing about the military or the intel sevices, we all had a function. No one had job that was more or less important. If any part of the "chain" broke people died. All service was good service if you did the best you could. I saw many good men/women "crack" under the stress of our business. It took over 3 years after I quit for my nightmares to stop, for the most part at least. You did your job, respect all those who did thier's and take pride in the fact that you were there when asked to be. Layoutshooter
 
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